DUST Search - [IDEA] ( warbarge components ) Add ISK variation in the market

Sleepy Shadow wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

olssam 62 wrote:

100k > 1 components ? Shocked

some level requires more than 20,000 components

You cannot expect me to believe that you are ignorant of the ridiculous amount of wealth that was generated from ether during the heyday of Passive Isk.

Look at those numbers as somewhat of a patience gauge. Remember, everyone starts out with a single module that does nothing more than give you warbarge components that will accumulate over time. They are that high because it should take you some time to acquire a fully upgraded warbarge. Everyone can achieve full upgrades across the board, it is simply a matter of how long it will take them to achieve it.

Allowing Aur and Isk paths to accelerate that process is the same as allowing boosters (which might be interesting if made available for Isk too).

So just because a select few have a lot of ISK you think itGÇÖs fine to overcharge all?

With your prices the upgrade to level 2 barge would cost 111,900,000 ISK. That is an amount unobtainable by 99% of the playerbase for a single low level upgrade.

And why should it take time to upgrade your barge with ISK when itGÇÖs not the case with AUR? Allowing AUR to upgrade the barge within minutes is the stupidest idea CCP came up with. With AUR you should only be able to upgrade a little faster than someone using only time. Not the case though, no. If you use AUR you can have it all.

CCP needs to introduce ISK variants with reasonable prices.

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olssam 62 Prima Gallicus 142	Posted - 2015.02.05 00:06:00 - [1] - Quote currently : 3 Aur / 1 component my idea add a isk variant 1.000 isk / 1 component please comment. Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
Oskar GALLAKT Prima Gallicus 1	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:06:00 - [2] - Quote 1000 ISk seems not enough for me , i would privilege more like 10 000 isk for a right unit of mesure ...
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam 86	Posted - 2015.02.05 07:54:00 - [3] - Quote It is a bad idea to buy component warbarge with isk on the market. You will see a diifference between new and old player. Old player have in general lot of isk.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 623	Posted - 2015.02.05 10:34:00 - [4] - Quote Resel componets cost is 900 ISK Just wait for simple trading, and a lot of people will trade component for more then 900 isk from 'farms' Not much time left...
Varoth Drac State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 571	Posted - 2015.02.05 11:00:00 - [5] - Quote They definitely should be purchasable with isk. Firstly it's a great reason to actually earn isk, giving you some kind of progression to work along. Secondly, the whole idea of aurum is that you can buy stuff with isk or real money. Keep the aurum only cooldown removal, but let us buy the components with isk.
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2540	Posted - 2015.02.05 12:10:00 - [6] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: They definitely should be purchasable with isk. Firstly it's a great reason to actually earn isk, giving you some kind of progression to work along. Secondly, the whole idea of aurum is that you can buy stuff with isk or real money. Keep the aurum only cooldown removal, but let us buy the components with isk. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Alaika Arbosa Minmatar Republic 2459	Posted - 2015.02.05 15:06:00 - [7] - Quote I am inclined to agree though I would say that even 10000 is too little, make it more like 100k per at the very minimum. We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837 ^^ROFLMAO OMG I need to catch my breath now..
olssam 62 Prima Gallicus 149	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:29:00 - [8] - Quote 100k > 1 components ? some level requires more than 20,000 components Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
Ardos 130297 Prima Gallicus 2	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:34:00 - [9] - Quote 100k for 1 component, I think is very expansive, 50k ? Well, good idea, just find a good price ^^' You do not win a war by making what is just... You win it by making what is necessary...
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6012	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:58:00 - [10] - Quote NS couldn't afford to upgrade one dude's warbarge at these rates I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6012	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:59:00 - [11] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I am inclined to agree though I would say that even 10000 is too little, make it more like 100k per at the very minimum. You'd be dead before you could earn enough ISK I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Alaika Arbosa Minmatar Republic 2461	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:12:00 - [12] - Quote olssam 62 wrote: 100k > 1 components ? some level requires more than 20,000 components You cannot expect me to believe that you are ignorant of the ridiculous amount of wealth that was generated from ether during the heyday of Passive Isk. Look at those numbers as somewhat of a patience gauge. Remember, everyone starts out with a single module that does nothing more than give you warbarge components that will accumulate over time. They are that high because it should take you some time to acquire a fully upgraded warbarge. Everyone can achieve full upgrades across the board, it is simply a matter of how long it will take them to achieve it. Allowing Aur and Isk paths to accelerate that process is the same as allowing boosters (which might be interesting if made available for Isk too). We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837 ^^ROFLMAO OMG I need to catch my breath now..
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 53	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:20:00 - [13] - Quote No Aurum sells = No meat for Ratatti. Maybe... 10,000 ISK + 100LP = 1 Component. We need more battles in facctions.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10966	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:38:00 - [14] - Quote olssam 62 wrote: currently : 3 Aur / 1 component my idea add a isk variant 1.000 isk / 1 component please comment. I have 5 million ISK in my wallet. With those figures I can get 5,000 warbarge components at that rate. Anyways, I'm not really ok with having the NPC sell us ISK variants. I would rather wait for simple trading to come in Warlords 1.1 where I can buy and sell the components to other players and at a better price. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3142	Posted - 2015.02.05 23:46:00 - [15] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Resel componets cost is 900 ISK So assuming that is 15% of the value, this means they are theoretically worth 6,000 isk "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
olssam 62 Prima Gallicus 153	Posted - 2015.02.06 09:35:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: olssam 62 wrote: currently : 3 Aur / 1 component my idea add a isk variant 1.000 isk / 1 component please comment. I have 5 million ISK in my wallet. With those figures I can get 5,000 warbarge components at that rate. Anyways, I'm not really ok with having the NPC sell us ISK variants. I would rather wait for simple trading to come in Warlords 1.1 where I can buy and sell the components to other players and at a better price. I found this idea because at the moment, warbarge components are the only ( gameplay elements ) aur items not available in isk, is that many players do not like. Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 245	Posted - 2015.02.06 11:04:00 - [17] - Quote 1000 ISK/component is fine. Most player dont have billions of ISK(or even millions) and they are a huge majority. That would actually make things muuuch better. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6413	Posted - 2015.02.06 11:09:00 - [18] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: Old player have in general lot of isk. Which can cause problems. If there's a way to soak up PC 1.0 Isk, it may be worth considering. Isk would again have meaning to both old player and new player alike. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Weznof Nalek Providentia Aeternam 87	Posted - 2015.02.07 10:03:00 - [19] - Quote I am in favor that you can exchange warbarge component with others players but not, you can buy components on the market. If you do that, tommorow, you will see all CEO who do PC battle and abuse to make farming passif for getting powerfull warbarges.
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 251	Posted - 2015.02.07 11:26:00 - [20] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: I am in favor that you can exchange warbarge component with others players but not, you can buy components on the market. If you do that, tommorow, you will see all CEO who do PC battle and abuse to make farming passif for getting powerfull warbarges. I'd rather see people who played to get a fully skilled warbarge than people who paid real money for it. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.

Sleepy Shadow Qualified Scrub 253	Posted - 2015.02.07 11:46:00 - [21] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: olssam 62 wrote: 100k > 1 components ? some level requires more than 20,000 components You cannot expect me to believe that you are ignorant of the ridiculous amount of wealth that was generated from ether during the heyday of Passive Isk. Look at those numbers as somewhat of a patience gauge. Remember, everyone starts out with a single module that does nothing more than give you warbarge components that will accumulate over time. They are that high because it should take you some time to acquire a fully upgraded warbarge. Everyone can achieve full upgrades across the board, it is simply a matter of how long it will take them to achieve it. Allowing Aur and Isk paths to accelerate that process is the same as allowing boosters (which might be interesting if made available for Isk too). So just because a select few have a lot of ISK you think itGÇÖs fine to overcharge all? With your prices the upgrade to level 2 barge would cost 111,900,000 ISK. That is an amount unobtainable by 99% of the playerbase for a single low level upgrade. And why should it take time to upgrade your barge with ISK when itGÇÖs not the case with AUR? Allowing AUR to upgrade the barge within minutes is the stupidest idea CCP came up with. With AUR you should only be able to upgrade a little faster than someone using only time. Not the case though, no. If you use AUR you can have it all. CCP needs to introduce ISK variants with reasonable prices. =ƒÿ¦
Alaika Arbosa Minmatar Republic 2469	Posted - 2015.02.07 15:36:00 - [22] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: olssam 62 wrote: 100k > 1 components ? some level requires more than 20,000 components You cannot expect me to believe that you are ignorant of the ridiculous amount of wealth that was generated from ether during the heyday of Passive Isk. Look at those numbers as somewhat of a patience gauge. Remember, everyone starts out with a single module that does nothing more than give you warbarge components that will accumulate over time. They are that high because it should take you some time to acquire a fully upgraded warbarge. Everyone can achieve full upgrades across the board, it is simply a matter of how long it will take them to achieve it. Allowing Aur and Isk paths to accelerate that process is the same as allowing boosters (which might be interesting if made available for Isk too). So just because a select few have a lot of ISK you think itGÇÖs fine to overcharge all? With your prices the upgrade to level 2 barge would cost 111,900,000 ISK. That is an amount unobtainable by 99% of the playerbase for a single low level upgrade. And why should it take time to upgrade your barge with ISK when itGÇÖs not the case with AUR? Allowing AUR to upgrade the barge within minutes is the stupidest idea CCP came up with. With AUR you should only be able to upgrade a little faster than someone using only time. Not the case though, no. If you use AUR you can have it all. CCP needs to introduce ISK variants with reasonable prices. I don't see it as overcharging at all. Personally, I view it the other way around, AUR is undercharging for progression. I mean, look at the prices of boosters. If I want to accelerate my SP accumulation, I need to pay thousands of AUR to get a period of time where my SP accumulation is accelerated. Not so with warbarge components, pay thousands of AUR for Instant gratification. If Warbarge components cost more it would add more delay to the instant gratification (which regardless of potential unpopularity isn't a bad thing). We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837 ^^ROFLMAO OMG I need to catch my breath now..


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