And Gunships that HAV's can't defend against. You can seriously hover over them and blow them up. Running away doesn't even help it seems, as you can still just fire away at them to kill them. This is highly unreasonable and needs to get fixed (a raise in turret elevation would help).


BLUB

Broken mechanics do not justify other bad mechanics.

No, everything does not.

Infantry can turn around or look up

DS's can look both down and up

only LAV's can't really defend against most things, which they can greatly avoid with like DS's, speed. So only HAV's has one true blind spot.

Try again.

You do realize that you can move and still hover over a HAV, correct?

If a ADS can hover overa HAV while moving, it can hover over it when it's still, regardless, it can hover and kill, and the HAV can't defend itself, and that itself is broken. Everything should be able to protect itself somehow. Currently there just isn't a way for a HAV to protect itself from a ADS.

Tell me how often you see a Railgun ADS dominating both vehicles and infantry, and if a missile ADS is destroying every HAV in sight without any threats present, then the enemy team is simply trash.

8 seconds is the time it take to empty a small missile clip: I didn't say 8 seconds to kill, because that threatens only absolute shitfits - 8 missiles is 4004 damage. An unfit Sica takes 6 XT-1 missiles to completely strip shields and the remaining two do not destroy all of its armour. That's a completely unfit Sica. A completely unfit Soma takes three to strip shields, then the remaining five still don't kill it.

If the tank driver knows how to fit a vehicle they will either be resisting the damage much more, have a far larger buffer and/or having great regen. An ADS, and bear in mind the above numbers are assuming max ADS skills (both Racial and Base), takes a healthy length of time to actually threaten a decently fit HAV with destruction.

You continue to parade around with extreme vehemence (like constantly calling us ******* fucks) yet continue to ignore the issues and balances in place. ADSs do not completely stomp on any and everything.

Consider the following fit:
Madrugar
ADV Armour Rep (112.5/sec)
ADV Armour Plate (1450 Armour: totals 5450 armour; 1200 shields)
ADV Armour Hardener
STD Large Missile Turret

The Madrugar has god awful fitting at the moment, but the above fit takes:
3 XT-1s to break shields: 3.06 seconds for 1200 damage to shields; 18 damage to armour
5 XT-1s over 5.1 seconds deals 3030 damage to armour; -5.1 seconds worth of reps (@112.5/sec) for a total of 2456.25 damage to armour without a hardener.
3 second reload (max Small Missile Rapid Reload) is a further 337.5 reps; total damage to armour is now 2118.75.

Assuming the Maddy pilot responds within the 11.16 seconds it has now been under fire for by activating it's hardener, the following happens:
8 XT-1s deal 3636 damage to armour over 8.16 seconds; reduced by 918 to 2718 more damage and a total of 4836.75 total damage to armour done over 19.32 seconds assuming perfect accuracy on the ADSs part.

4429.5 (22.32 seconds elapsed) damage to armour after the second reload.
4884 (23.38 seconds; 17th XT-1) -112.5 = 4771.5
5226 (24.44 seconds; 18th) -112.5 = 5113.5 damage to armour.
Missile 19, at 25.5 seconds elapsed, destroys this average fit Maddy.

The Maddy is generally considered wildly underperforming considering that the Gunny has far, far superior fitting capacity, yet this relatively average Maddy fit takes a total of 25+ seconds to destroy assuming perfect accuracy/awful evasive action.



Are you seriously suggesting that ADSs are over performing? They are a hybrid Dropship/Gunship. They have a capacity smaller than the dedicated normal Dropship and have increased offensive capabilities. As shown above, an ADS fitting for anti-infantry (missiles) will not destroy even the weaker of the two main HAVs in short order, and an ADS fitting Railguns for faster HAV destruction is most definitely not destroying all forms of infantry.

Find a better argument.

legitimate strategy

You seem to think HAV's can easily counter pretty much everything when it's known that said things can in fact counter the counter.

And this is the problem. Why do I have to coordinate with others to fight one single pilot exactly?

Yeah just double down on that, you wouldnt want anyone to suspect that you just suck at situational awareness, aim, and positioning. Just keep beating that drum, it kills my tank so its not legit.

Games with no safe staging zones throughout the match are HORRIBLE, especially when one side has overwhelming victory conditions.

It takes all of one second to pivot your tank and turn your turret....

Im sorry that you're being outplayed since you clearly cant outmaneuver them or use terrain to gain elevation. The only way more elevation for a main turret would ever be close to balanced is if turret rotation took a big hit, so you can't just effortlessly engage dropships at all times.

Hovering above a tank leaves you wide open to attack from enemy AV, and still leaves you vulnerable if you dont immediately disengage when the HAV alters direction on you, buying the tank time to fall back, or kill the DS if the dont immediately respond.

Fair enough, I don't expect to shoot at a DS for two seconds and drop (that would **** me off in fact, would remind me of how paper thin LDS's were). As long as I can reasonably deal with a target, to where it's not a threat, just like I can with another HAV or AV, then what should I care if it lives? Again, I want to be able to deal with threats. That doesn't mean kill (although it can). Making it run off, or even distracting it could fit under that term. I'm not a sort of person who thinks that the only way to be safe is by killing everything (and that's why I think that the vehicle damage was a wonderful idea).

EDIT: about two minutes ago, I ripped apart a normal DS flying along with a Rail. Not sure if it was fitted, but it was broke in about 3 seconds. That's silly.