And Gunships that HAV's can't defend against. You can seriously hover over them and blow them up. Running away doesn't even help it seems, as you can still just fire away at them to kill them. This is highly unreasonable and needs to get fixed (a raise in turret elevation would help).


BLUB

I've countered every single point you've made already, and I'm sick of doing so. Read the ******* thread.

If you can't out-think the dropship pilot when in a tank, I'm sorry, but you need to stop whining and get some practice.

Yes there are bad tankers that make it easy to kill them with a dropship. In the same way there are bad pilots that can't track a tank going backwards and forward.






I'm not sure a redzone rail-tank is the best answer here, since the redzone is a problem that needs solving.

By the way caeli you better have been in closed beta or in open beta within the first week of open beta opening to tell me anything

That's because everything's dangerous to an ADS pilot...

What AV don't understand is that ADS can be destroyed by immobile objects (buildings) and RDVs, meanwhile a swarm user isn't going to trip up on a rock and die...

Bull twoddle, both HAV's can avoid being blown up with ease by a JLAV, it's even been nerfed down to the point that you can only have 5 remotes at a time on it. All but 2 will disappear if you change suits. Basically now JLAVing takes more skill than anything as you actually have to avoid blowing up on the hardener.

Not to mention, a beefy JLAV was the only real counter to redzone tanks in the game, now they have a free for all at the back half of the map (which on half the maps is the whole god damn area.)


Still don't get why so many people couldn't just reverse the tank. I've seen about 2 JLAV's coming at my tank since the nerf and I'm hellishly bored at the lack of them, they were fun to deal with! Because they kept you on your toes & were so damn easily countered.

Shouldn't you guys.....I don't know...be protecting those staging zones?

I'd rather not have redlines removed. Pushed back? Yea. Maps are way too small to make transport really attractive (which is why I'm not saying ADS's are OP, rather broken).

Seeing as I've had no problems dealing with rocket HAV's, I don't buy that.

Also, small blasters are considered too weak to usually kill anything, that is irrelevant. Rocket and rail fitted ADS's does the job quite well however. Also, large blasters are supposed to be as good as Rails in AV in their optimal, so again, irrelevant (and why they are getting buffed).

And I can use a BPO scout fitted with pretty much any weapon and be able to deal with any target. That applies to pretty much any suit (because running away is a thing), and applies to LAV's and DS's as well. Only HAV's seems to not have this luxury due to ADS's moving faster than them, and being able to hover over HAV's, and yet saying that's broke is okay? That I'm wrong somehow for wanting to be able to defend myself within a HAV is for some odd reason a bad thing now? That wanting a ADS to preform like a ACTUAL ******* DS is such a evil thing?

But hey, I'm just apparently wanting HAV's to be OP against everything else, right?

Fair enough, I don't expect to shoot at a DS for two seconds and drop (that would **** me off in fact, would remind me of how paper thin LDS's were). As long as I can reasonably deal with a target, to where it's not a threat, just like I can with another HAV or AV, then what should I care if it lives? Again, I want to be able to deal with threats. That doesn't mean kill (although it can). Making it run off, or even distracting it could fit under that term. I'm not a sort of person who thinks that the only way to be safe is by killing everything (and that's why I think that the vehicle damage was a wonderful idea).

EDIT: about two minutes ago, I ripped apart a normal DS flying along with a Rail. Not sure if it was fitted, but it was broke in about 3 seconds. That's silly.