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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 645	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:01:00 - [1] - Quote So I got an M-1 Logistics suit, tanked it with shields and plates, put an ADV level needle, triage rep tool and nanohive on, and even on your regular boring matches I average 2500-3000 WP just repping people... I don't get it, I'm just standing there behind cover repping my team while they do all the work, It's just strange. Life has no "real" meaning. We are just dust particles in an endless world we call space. Just have fun while you live.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15332	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:08:00 - [2] - Quote Now take that MinLogi against an Assault and see how OP it is. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 406	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:10:00 - [3] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: So I got an M-1 Logistics suit, tanked it with shields and plates, put an ADV level needle, triage rep tool and nanohive on, and even on your regular boring matches I average 2500-3000 WP just repping people... I don't get it, I'm just standing there behind cover repping my team while they do all the work, It's just strange. Strange? uh..........that's being a logi Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1662	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:13:00 - [4] - Quote **** Logi's The WP gains from Reps/links needs to be brought down to 15 wp per action Along with the guardian bonus going down to 25 wp... Then add a downtime similar to cloak field for rep-tool A change to links would go really well, how/why shrugs With these changes they could at least earn some of their final score. - A buff to lower level Equipment would be nice, so Logi's don't stack pro equipment and then complain about their suit costs being to much (after they CHOOSE to fit proto) - So the rep-tool for example, would have much less difference in rep amounts between tiers - I'd say the same for Scanners (but EWAR would need re-working on all frames) Rant enough it might get changed. SOONtm As right now it's just crap that a Logi can spawn city, farm wp off his team Not have to even use their gun and still finish ahead of most other classes (Tanks/AV can almost compete, other roles cannot in terms of WP) I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles??
Henrietta Unknown Band O' Commandos 781	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:15:00 - [5] - Quote Is it worth tanking a logi, or should we add regen mods? Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2224	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:25:00 - [6] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: **** Logi's The WP gains from Reps/links needs to be brought down to 15 wp per action Along with the guardian bonus going down to 25 wp... Then add a downtime similar to cloak field for rep-tool A change to links would go really well, how/why shrugs With these changes they could at least earn some of their final score. - A buff to lower level Equipment would be nice, so Logi's don't stack pro equipment and then complain about their suit costs being to much (after they CHOOSE to fit proto) - So the rep-tool for example, would have much less difference in rep amounts between tiers - I'd say the same for Scanners (but EWAR would need re-working on all frames) Rant enough it might get changed. SOONtm As right now it's just crap that a Logi can spawn city, farm wp off his team Not have to even use their gun and still finish ahead of most other classes (Tanks/AV can almost compete, other roles cannot in terms of WP) I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles?? The problem is logi's who solo. Like myself on my alt is having a full team of blues . Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 960	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:33:00 - [7] - Quote really... logis are OP There's like 6 of us dedicated logi's anymore and you want to make it harder on us? I'm not talking about you guys who run assault and swap to a logi once in a while, I mean dedicated logi's, people who help the team and don't just sit behind a wall repping whoever comes by. when I go 5/8 and 2K WP, do you think I just sat there, latched to a heavy? Learn what a good logi does (and how often he dies keeping you alive) and then tell me we're OP
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 638	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:34:00 - [8] - Quote Poor logis. I cry imaginary tears as they die trying to rep someone (me), but for reals: such an relatively unwanted role on a battlefield should be appreciated and rewarded. Not nerfd
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1626	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:58:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: Now take that MinLogi against an Assault and see how OP it is. Not that much because a Assault Assaults and Logis logi. You can't compare two different things. Anyway, WP wise, I can get up to 40 kills a match (doesn't happen often) but I still can't surpass 2500 wp. With a logi, I can surpass 2500 wp like a warm knife through butter and that is with sh*t fits. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1500	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:00:00 - [10] - Quote I've been playing Minlogi and sometimes I think I earn every point I get, but sometimes when all I'm doing is hiding in a corner repping an aggressive heavy and those +25's just keep rolling in I feel a little dirty. Links I feel are OK, I work hard to keep my links up and as safe as I can. It usually costs me a couple suits getting them where I want them and then defending them until my chubby little buddies show up to help me. Because, that's why.

Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1162	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:03:00 - [11] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: So I got an M-1 Logistics suit, tanked it with shields and plates, put an ADV level needle, triage rep tool and nanohive on, and even on your regular boring matches I average 2500-3000 WP just repping people... I don't get it, I'm just standing there behind cover repping my team while they do all the work, It's just strange. Any logi can do that, it isn't just min. That's logi 101. Basic suit, basic reps, needle, hives or links or scans = profit. Edit: thats actually how I got into logi in chromosome, used to be assault and wasn't making gains, average 2.0 kdr. My buddy told me the easiest way to cap was to run a cheap ass logi suit, never looked back. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2501	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:06:00 - [12] - Quote Logis have less health than assaults, less speed, less stamina, higher profile, no sidearm, no bonuses for killing. Yet they are OP. Scratchin' my head as to how that can be. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:19:00 - [13] - Quote The more people play actively logi, the less WPs you will gain (as logi). Since saturation can be easily reached. Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 646	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:27:00 - [14] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Logis have less health than assaults, less speed, less stamina, higher profile, no sidearm, no bonuses for killing. Yet they are OP. Scratchin' my head as to how that can be. Rewarded too much WP (SP) for little effort. It's just too easy to be a logi. Life has no "real" meaning. We are just dust particles in an endless world we call space. Just have fun while you live.
TritusX PH4NT0M5 177	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:31:00 - [15] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: Now take that MinLogi against an Assault and see how OP it is. Not that much because a Assault Assaults and Logis logi. You can't compare two different things. Anyway, WP wise, I can get up to 40 kills a match (doesn't happen often) but I still can't surpass 2500 wp. With a logi, I can surpass 2500 wp like a warm knife through butter and that is with sh*t fits. Well guess what? I can hit 2500WP too. With a scout. Not a logi. Not an assault. A scout. Hacks are op. Knives are OP. Stealth is OP. Easy to hack installations all over the map. So it must be OP. When I run assaults, I can get 2000 WP. Hacks. Mainly kills. No one person should expect to get all their points from kills. 40 kills is 2000 WP. 20 kills is 1000 WP. Hacking supply depots, terminals, CRU's alone can bring it way up. Easy points. Dust also is a teamwork game. Logi's literally hold that together. They deserve the WP they get. Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 406	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:37:00 - [16] - Quote You haters suck. A good dedicated logi is one of the most passionate players of the game. They will go into enemy positions with their weak *** suit and try to place uplinks etc etc., they always put the teams well being before their own. I don't know what to say....... All these negative responses is kind of a slap in the face to us hardcore logis, sucks. Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1759	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:47:00 - [17] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: You haters suck. A good dedicated logi is one of the most passionate players of the game. They will go into enemy positions with their weak * suit and try to place uplinks etc etc., they always put the teams well being before their own. I don't know what to say....... All these negative responses is kind of a slap in the face to us hardcore logis, sucks. Haters gonna hate and trollers gonna troll , just let it bounce off ya BRO . These people obviously have nothing to do so they go around making up $h!T because of that and half the time it's these same people trying to turn Dust into COD / BF 514 . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .**
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1663	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:50:00 - [18] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Logis have less health than assaults, less speed, less stamina, higher profile, no sidearm, no bonuses for killing. Yet they are OP. Scratchin' my head as to how that can be. Rewarded too much WP (SP) for little effort. It's just too easy to be a logi. Again this is the only issue, Logis are not OP, their rewards are.
echo47 Sacrilege of Fatal Arms 277	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:50:00 - [19] - Quote People just refuse to grasp the concept logi is primary. And give away easy war points. They are almost as flimsy as scouts. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1903	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:50:00 - [20] - Quote High wp is down to a role having all the roles in it that everyone else doesn't want to do creating high demand. This fuels the high wp players are getting. It is not easy wp... Its high demand. I can pull in 2.5k wp in bpo fits yet playing full proto I pull in the same. Just like I can use a bpo assault setup and get the same wp as I do in full proto. Its not easy wp its supply and demand. What's the total wp for 15 compared to the 1 logistics supplying your team. More logistics will reduce wp. We just need more logistics and it will all level itself out All reduced wp would do is put the last nail in the coffin. All Hail Legion

LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1781	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:53:00 - [21] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: You haters suck. A good dedicated logi is one of the most passionate players of the game. They will go into enemy positions with their weak *** suit and try to place uplinks etc etc., they always put the teams well being before their own. I don't know what to say....... All these negative responses is kind of a slap in the face to us hardcore logis, sucks. You... are not a hardcore logi... I've seen you in battles before... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2505	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:55:00 - [22] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Logis have less health than assaults, less speed, less stamina, higher profile, no sidearm, no bonuses for killing. Yet they are OP. Scratchin' my head as to how that can be. Rewarded too much WP (SP) for little effort. It's just too easy to be a logi. Again this is the only issue, Logis are not OP, their rewards are. Until logis have the same stats as assaults, then logis should get more WP. Your whining that the one thing logis have over assaults is too much. That's asinine. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1162	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:56:00 - [23] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Logis have less health than assaults, less speed, less stamina, higher profile, no sidearm, no bonuses for killing. Yet they are OP. Scratchin' my head as to how that can be. Rewarded too much WP (SP) for little effort. It's just too easy to be a logi. Too little effort? Running around in a massive gunfight with your rep tool out, being bright ass yellow and have the lowest hp of any ground based combat suit? Good players kill the logi first that's a fact, so in a competitive environment you're doing the texas two step all while trying to keep from being shot, stabbed, exploded, or run down. Trying to herd blueberries with proper uplinks, keeping the fat kids fed, making sure nobody is sneaking up behind all this chaos, all while wearing the most expensive fits in the game (at proto )? Piece of cake. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 411	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:58:00 - [24] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: You haters suck. A good dedicated logi is one of the most passionate players of the game. They will go into enemy positions with their weak *** suit and try to place uplinks etc etc., they always put the teams well being before their own. I don't know what to say....... All these negative responses is kind of a slap in the face to us hardcore logis, sucks. You... are not a hardcore logi... I've seen you in battles before... Tsk tsk lugmos, you've not seen all Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
tal mrak-thanl Aethan Dor 59	Posted - 2015.01.30 22:59:00 - [25] - Quote The only times I have ever broken 2000 with a Logi, I was the only Logi the entire match. If you have two or three guys playing the role the right way, you won't earn as much WP. TheD1CK wrote: I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles?? Reps, links and hives in the hands of a strategist can make the difference in a win or loss. If there were no incentive to play that role, who would? Logis make bank by helping the team win the match, which is the object of the whole damn game. You can run around killing people all day and lose match after match. Hell, you can go 40/0 and still lose a match because your contribution just didn't align with the teams needs. If you are earning a ton of WP as a Logi, it's not because the role is "OP", it's because the match you are playing in has a high demand for a Logi. Run a Logi fit in a match where your team has redlined the opposition in the first three minutes and tell us how OP it is to earn under 1k WP.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1759	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:05:00 - [26] - Quote First these same people screwed with the mechanics of equipment , then BW is added where max carried and active means nothing now depending on what's used and the suit that's using it , then they cry about links every fracking day ... about as much as claiming " EQ SPAM " and now with BW people still complain about " EQ spam " and that's what it was implemented for but on top of that , the powers that be realized that they killed the role by limiting logi's input in-game , so now they will look at max carried . This game is like the forums , it's a popularity contest to see who whines the most and that determines what gets changed and what gets done , screw the fact that you have people who have personal agenda's who's main goal is , " frack up any and everything that THEY DON'T USE and WHAT CAUSES THEM PROBLEMS and WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE , no matter if these same steps take this game backwards , kills the individuality of this game , kills the competition , drives the numbers down and players alike .... sad part about it is some of these same people are CPM's and CCP themselves for allowing it to happen . They don't care about the forums , it is saturated with trolls who come up with the dumbest proposals and these same post get " Blue Tagged " while someone with serious concerns and issues get NO RESPONCE . The forums are half the problem and CCP willingness to allow this and condone same said behavior is the other half . Let you say something that THEY don't like and watch your statement disappear and get omitted while the trolls are allowed to play with " Blue Tag " condoning . That's the REAL problem , it's a joke that's just not funny . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 411	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:06:00 - [27] - Quote It's also not very cool of you to throw me under the bus for goofin after a respec Lugmos Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15335	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:58:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: [...] Or... We can buff the WP acquisition of other roles. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Hawkings Greenback Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 291	Posted - 2015.01.31 00:02:00 - [29] - Quote Did all the other suits (except heavy) loose there equipment slot/s ? But every night I burn. Screaming the animal scream. Every night I burn. Dreaming the crow-black dream.
Yokal Bob Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 734	Posted - 2015.01.31 00:58:00 - [30] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: **** Logi's The WP gains from Reps/links needs to be brought down to 15 wp per action Along with the guardian bonus going down to 25 wp... Then add a downtime similar to cloak field for rep-tool A change to links would go really well, how/why shrugs With these changes they could at least earn some of their final score. - A buff to lower level Equipment would be nice, so Logi's don't stack pro equipment and then complain about their suit costs being to much (after they CHOOSE to fit proto) - So the rep-tool for example, would have much less difference in rep amounts between tiers - I'd say the same for Scanners (but EWAR would need re-working on all frames) Rant enough it might get changed. SOONtm As right now it's just crap that a Logi can spawn city, farm wp off his team Not have to even use their gun and still finish ahead of most other classes (Tanks/AV can almost compete, other roles cannot in terms of WP) I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles?? you have your kd, we have our wp leave us alone -_- /{o.o}/ ---L Inflatable hammer strikes again

Twelve Guage Death Firm. 480	Posted - 2015.01.31 01:38:00 - [31] - Quote These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 135	Posted - 2015.01.31 02:41:00 - [32] - Quote I'm not a dedicated logi at all, but I spend more money on my logistics suit than any other, and always have. I use proto rep tools, injectors (and sometimes hives, but usually an advanced uplink instead). Bearing that in mind, think about how often a logi does compared to a sentinel - they're squishy, yellow and no matter how many times I try, my rep tool does no damage to the enemy! In the time it takes me to switch to my weapon (which isn't long, considering I use a mouse and just have to scroll), I'm often already dead. More WP means more ISK. Before I got my blueprint suit, and Assault Rifle, breaking even wasn't always as easy as it was for my friends who were playing as assaults, sentinels and scouts. I've been in matches where I was the only one to break 1k WP before, because we were redlined. I've also been in matches where I didn't break 1k or come in the top 5 because my side was doing the redlining and the other team were hiding from us like cowards. The scouts got most WP that match cause they could run in and out the redline fast enough to catch people before the timer ran out. Logis risk a lot when they are following fat guys around, and more risk = more reward. So no, they're not OP any more than a heavy is OP at their role, or a scout is at theirs.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 751	Posted - 2015.01.31 03:06:00 - [33] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: I'm not a dedicated logi at all, but I spend more money on my logistics suit than any other, and always have. I use proto rep tools, injectors (and sometimes hives, but usually an advanced uplink instead). Bearing that in mind, think about how often a logi does compared to a sentinel - they're squishy, yellow and no matter how many times I try, my rep tool does no damage to the enemy! In the time it takes me to switch to my weapon (which isn't long, considering I use a mouse and just have to scroll), I'm often already dead. More WP means more ISK. Before I got my blueprint suit, and Assault Rifle, breaking even wasn't always as easy as it was for my friends who were playing as assaults, sentinels and scouts. I've been in matches where I was the only one to break 1k WP before, because we were redlined. I've also been in matches where I didn't break 1k or come in the top 5 because my side was doing the redlining and the other team were hiding from us like cowards. The scouts got most WP that match cause they could run in and out the redline fast enough to catch people before the timer ran out. Logis risk a lot when they are following fat guys around, and more risk = more reward. So no, they're not OP any more than a heavy is OP at their role, or a scout is at theirs. Running behind a douche with 1000+ dps gun is so much risky [sarcasm]. Enemies die within 2 secs of fire, they can't do much. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Honour and Mission over money
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 135	Posted - 2015.01.31 03:14:00 - [34] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Raptor Princess wrote: I'm not a dedicated logi at all, but I spend more money on my logistics suit than any other, and always have. I use proto rep tools, injectors (and sometimes hives, but usually an advanced uplink instead). Bearing that in mind, think about how often a logi does compared to a sentinel - they're squishy, yellow and no matter how many times I try, my rep tool does no damage to the enemy! In the time it takes me to switch to my weapon (which isn't long, considering I use a mouse and just have to scroll), I'm often already dead. More WP means more ISK. Before I got my blueprint suit, and Assault Rifle, breaking even wasn't always as easy as it was for my friends who were playing as assaults, sentinels and scouts. I've been in matches where I was the only one to break 1k WP before, because we were redlined. I've also been in matches where I didn't break 1k or come in the top 5 because my side was doing the redlining and the other team were hiding from us like cowards. The scouts got most WP that match cause they could run in and out the redline fast enough to catch people before the timer ran out. Logis risk a lot when they are following fat guys around, and more risk = more reward. So no, they're not OP any more than a heavy is OP at their role, or a scout is at theirs. Running behind a douche with 1000+ dps gun is so much risky [sarcasm]. Enemies die within 2 secs of fire, they can't do much. When I'm running as a heavy, I always kill the logi first. And if there is more than 1 enemy, one will always kill the logi.
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2507	Posted - 2015.01.31 03:27:00 - [35] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. Its no bull. I've done it before with an all BPO build. But its by no means the norm. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 131	Posted - 2015.01.31 03:37:00 - [36] - Quote Ha! Ha ha! Ha ha ha ha! Thanks for the reminder because I certainly don't recall being on top of the kdr as a logi.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 482	Posted - 2015.01.31 03:43:00 - [37] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. Its no bull. I've done it before with an all BPO build. But its by no means the norm. It is bullshit you can not with a M- logi BPO suit only running reps get that many war points in this build of the game. At best you would be luck to get 700 - 1k wp avg. This might have been ture if this was another build but its not so the your spewing bullshit still stands. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7547	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:07:00 - [38] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: You haters suck. A good dedicated logi is one of the most passionate players of the game. They will go into enemy positions with their weak *** suit and try to place uplinks etc etc., they always put the teams well being before their own. I don't know what to say....... All these negative responses is kind of a slap in the face to us hardcore logis, sucks. As a ninja hacker/support I know what you mean, everyone hates us, but never don't need us. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 377	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:09:00 - [39] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 482	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:35:00 - [40] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more. Prove it. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<

hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 597	Posted - 2015.01.31 04:44:00 - [41] - Quote suck my yellow stream K/D f@gs
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1164	Posted - 2015.01.31 05:50:00 - [42] - Quote Also, why do people act like there are only 2 ways to get wp? Killing and logi. Assaults, scouts, and commandos all have equipment slots, bring some damn snacks to the party instead of just being jealous of the logi buffet. A solid uplink, or needle or hell even a rep tool can net you some steady wp, but you all can't see past point/shoot/die/repeat. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Alena Ventrallis Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2508	Posted - 2015.01.31 05:54:00 - [43] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. Its no bull. I've done it before with an all BPO build. But its by no means the norm. It is bullshit you can not with a M- logi BPO suit only running reps get that many war points in this build of the game. At best you would be luck to get 700 - 1k wp avg. This might have been ture if this was another build but its not so the your spewing bullshit still stands. Squad with me and see. It happens. Not the norm, but I've come out with 3700 before with needle/reps/links, all BPO Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 486	Posted - 2015.01.31 06:37:00 - [44] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. Its no bull. I've done it before with an all BPO build. But its by no means the norm. It is bullshit you can not with a M- logi BPO suit only running reps get that many war points in this build of the game. At best you would be luck to get 700 - 1k wp avg. This might have been ture if this was another build but its not so the your spewing bullshit still stands. Squad with me and see. It happens. Not the norm, but I've come out with 3700 before with needle/reps/links, all BPO You still on squad with me. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 377	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:06:00 - [45] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Also, why do people act like there are only 2 ways to get wp? Killing and logi. Assaults, scouts, and commandos all have equipment slots, bring some damn snacks to the party instead of just being jealous of the logi buffet. A solid uplink, or needle or hell even a rep tool can net you some steady wp, but you all can't see past point/shoot/die/repeat. all my assault fits have 3 versions -uplink -needle -hive when i die i pick the appropriate one......unfortunately its usually the up link one with the biggest sacrifice to fit it.
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 377	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:07:00 - [46] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more. Prove it. what you want a SS?
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 486	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:28:00 - [47] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more. Prove it. what you want a SS? seems daft that you can't take anyone on their word when there are so many spawn in with dren logi fit 3x's advanced uplinks set uplinks in the appropriate area's where people will use. find supply depo or wait until death (i.e. go slay for a bit) change suit into dren logi advanced hive advanced needle advanced reptool support the team and stay with large group - slay when needed when you die check if uplink needed. choose logi suit with least uplinks online or th least relivant placings adv up adv needle adv reptool stay with team and stay in large group - slay when needed ect ect. I'm on now if you would like to squad and prove this to me i'm free and ready. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 378	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:41:00 - [48] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more. Prove it. what you want a SS? seems daft that you can't take anyone on their word when there are so many spawn in with dren logi fit 3x's advanced uplinks set uplinks in the appropriate area's where people will use. find supply depo or wait until death (i.e. go slay for a bit) change suit into dren logi advanced hive advanced needle advanced reptool support the team and stay with large group - slay when needed when you die check if uplink needed. choose logi suit with least uplinks online or th least relivant placings adv up adv needle adv reptool stay with team and stay in large group - slay when needed ect ect. I'm on now if you would like to squad and prove this to me i'm free and ready. tomorrow i will no problem its 7.39 AM (UK) and i need to go to bed. ill finnish work at 4 AM (uk) and will have all the time in the world.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 137	Posted - 2015.01.31 07:59:00 - [49] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: taxi bastard wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: These kinds of threads always pissing me off. You say your getting an avg of 2.5k - 3k wp with only reps and and a ***** M-log build. That is a load of the lowest quality bullshit I have ever heard. its not hard to get - dren logi + advanced equipment. you may die a little more than an advanced logi.....but not too much more. Prove it. what you want a SS? seems daft that you can't take anyone on their word when there are so many spawn in with dren logi fit 3x's advanced uplinks set uplinks in the appropriate area's where people will use. find supply depo or wait until death (i.e. go slay for a bit) change suit into dren logi advanced hive advanced needle advanced reptool support the team and stay with large group - slay when needed when you die check if uplink needed. choose logi suit with least uplinks online or th least relivant placings adv up adv needle adv reptool stay with team and stay in large group - slay when needed ect ect. You don't even need to put out all those uplinks to get 3k WP. I've done it with 2 uplinks, adv rep tool and needle in the past. I've seen people get 2.5k with a basic needle, adv rep tool and basic uplink since the changes to revive points came out. Both of these on BPO suits with a BPO weapon. It really depends on the map though.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 486	Posted - 2015.01.31 08:00:00 - [50] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: tomorrow i will no problem its 7.39 AM (UK) and i need to go to bed. ill finnish work at 4 AM (uk) and will have all the time in the world. Okay your about 5 hours a head of me. I look forward to playing with you. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<

Feldt-Grace Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company 74	Posted - 2015.01.31 12:44:00 - [51] - Quote Min Logi OP? No~ the Six Kin Triage Reptool is OP~ More Rep = shorter range! TRANS-AM! Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
Mad Syringe Dead Man's Game RUST415 445	Posted - 2015.01.31 13:35:00 - [52] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: **** Logi's The WP gains from Reps/links needs to be brought down to 15 wp per action Along with the guardian bonus going down to 25 wp... Then add a downtime similar to cloak field for rep-tool A change to links would go really well, how/why shrugs With these changes they could at least earn some of their final score. - A buff to lower level Equipment would be nice, so Logi's don't stack pro equipment and then complain about their suit costs being to much (after they CHOOSE to fit proto) - So the rep-tool for example, would have much less difference in rep amounts between tiers - I'd say the same for Scanners (but EWAR would need re-working on all frames) Rant enough it might get changed. SOONtm As right now it's just crap that a Logi can spawn city, farm wp off his team Not have to even use their gun and still finish ahead of most other classes (Tanks/AV can almost compete, other roles cannot in terms of WP) I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles?? Only thing legit in this is the cooldown for the reptool, to make logis more of a selective triage guy than just following one heavy with a repper and perma lock. Which is not a very smart way to play the role anyway. Care must be taken though, that this is not overdone. So At least a minute of constant repping and a cooldown of not more than 15 sec. This would lead to a more rotational repping which would also make it more important fot slayers to not overly depend on the dude behind them to pat their kdr... It's possible to crank out high warpoints in a Apex logi and make lots of money, but that's not very effective. If you want decent support, you will end up putting at least advanced stuff on the suit, and probably even proto modules to have decent survivability. This all comes at a cost, and dying 5 times in a squishy suit means you lost a lot of money, even if you crank out 3000WP+. It would be less of a problem if we didn't have scouts like you running around, one slashing logis at will, in a completely OP Minja scout... So you are part of the problem and your rant is just pathetic! And one last thought D1CK, are you by any chance pissed of that you don't have the ability to farm EQ points as a scout anymore?
Binx Klepto Molon Labe. 21	Posted - 2015.01.31 14:53:00 - [53] - Quote <-- min logi. Don't hate people the minlogi is balanced yes you can tank it with what ever but can't I tank any other suit in this game anyway. The min is the best medic of all the familys. Deal with it... Fellow Flaylock Believer
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 791	Posted - 2015.01.31 15:18:00 - [54] - Quote The people who always hate on logis are usually the same ones too dumb to do anything but strafe and shoot. Never hack, never drop equipment and wonder why thier WP haull is like thier skills, second class. Its those kinds of players that lets a logi make all that WP. The less people drop equipment, or run a simple logi fit, the more WP goes to the one or two players supporting the team. Even so, lol at the 3,000 wp Average. Simple stuff like this flies over a lot of forum warrior heads. '' Its like, you know, i specced into the basic minmatar assult, with a starter combat rifle you know, and now I average 40 - 60 kills a match', assaults are OP.'' Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 714	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:01:00 - [55] - Quote You guys make me laugh. Because a logi earns more wps than an assault it needs a nerf? Are you guys brain dead or something? Its job is to provide support and generally ignore enemies unless they need to try kill them. Triage points do need a slight reduction however. Cos that is OP not the logi. Its not like an assault cant put down links and change to a rep tool suit. Stop complaining that it gains more points for doing its job.
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 380	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:32:00 - [56] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: You guys make me laugh. Because a logi earns more wps than an assault it needs a nerf? Are you guys brain dead or something? Its job is to provide support and generally ignore enemies unless they need to try kill them. Triage points do need a slight reduction however. Cos that is OP not the logi. Its not like an assault cant put down links and change to a rep tool suit. Stop complaining that it gains more points for doing its job. i never said nerf it or complain. i simply said how its easy to get WP's using a basic mini logi and some guy does not beleive me indeed i have mini logi to 5 - but i do think the isk rewards are too high for playing the logistics role. i have always been a believer in that a percentage of everything you kill should go into your pocket. killing proto suits in the heart of the battle should yield alot more financial reward than killing starter fits on the outside. So something like 30% of the value of what you kill should go directly to yourself.
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 125	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:38:00 - [57] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: - but i do think the isk rewards are too high for playing the logistics role.. Err did you ever fit a full proto logi? that's quite expensive... Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur
Zindorak Nyain Chan 1687	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:41:00 - [58] - Quote Nope its supposed to be a WP farm Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 1272	Posted - 2015.01.31 19:44:00 - [59] - Quote A logi that has Scout level hp is OP? Comical. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1596	Posted - 2015.01.31 20:10:00 - [60] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: **** Logi's The WP gains from Reps/links needs to be brought down to 15 wp per action Along with the guardian bonus going down to 25 wp... Then add a downtime similar to cloak field for rep-tool A change to links would go really well, how/why shrugs With these changes they could at least earn some of their final score. - A buff to lower level Equipment would be nice, so Logi's don't stack pro equipment and then complain about their suit costs being to much (after they CHOOSE to fit proto) - So the rep-tool for example, would have much less difference in rep amounts between tiers - I'd say the same for Scanners (but EWAR would need re-working on all frames) Rant enough it might get changed. SOONtm As right now it's just crap that a Logi can spawn city, farm wp off his team Not have to even use their gun and still finish ahead of most other classes (Tanks/AV can almost compete, other roles cannot in terms of WP) I've no problem with Logi's being paid for their job, but what about the other 4 suits-roles?? the solution is not to break something to make something else better... it's better to fix the problem at the source which is not enough WP for kills.. leave the logi WP alone FFS. there should be no nerf to anyones WP that just is gonna **** ppl off even more to make a minority happy. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3083	Posted - 2015.01.31 20:56:00 - [61] - Quote Triage points are too high, IMO. They should be reduced to a lower number, IMO, with the overheat number (i.e. max points before you stop getting points) remaining unchanged. That said, I think that logis that top the leaderboards should get a LARGER percentage of the total ISK in the match -- to offset the high costs typical of the role (and also to reward slayers who similarly top the leaderboard). Said a bit differently, players 9-16 get too much and players 1-8 get too little ISK, relatively speaking. If implemented, it would bring out more competition and reward players more for topping the leaderboards.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 137	Posted - 2015.02.01 02:45:00 - [62] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Said a bit differently, players 9-16 get too much and players 1-8 get too little ISK, relatively speaking. If implemented, it would bring out more competition and reward players more for topping the leaderboards. Out of interest, how much do you think would be the right amount of ISK? You can be top 8 and get under 100k in some matches (with 500WP+), or you might be 15th and get over 100k with 300WP. I always assumed this was because the person at the top was getting a massive share of the ISK compared to those below them in some matches (this person usually being a logi with 1k more points than the person in second)
Mad Syringe Dead Man's Game RUST415 447	Posted - 2015.02.01 02:56:00 - [63] - Quote I have a simple solution for the problem... Give +35WP extra, for every kill of somebody who is shooting at a logi (bonus will only be given if Logi doesn't get killed by said player). This would sort two things, Logis would live longer, and Slayers would have a reason to save the logis asses from flankers. After that is working, and the death rate of logis goes down, we can talk about reducing WP for logis. Untill then, do not touch it!


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