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Roy Ventus wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Roy Ventus wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Myofibril Stimulants already work well in my opinion. I believe that a long bladed weapon would be too clumsy in CQC. Only a retractable and small weapon would be useful. Anyways, with the current success of Nova Knives any new dropsuit based m+¬l+¬e weapon would struggle to gain a following unless it offered a benefit that the Caldari blades currently lack.

Ahh but it does.

I believe you all are missing a few keys points of these swords' design.

Giving an assassin better range and the ability to hit multiple enemies at once is something I could see myself using, especially in tight quarters where enemies are bound to bunch up. I mean in a situation where you're about to initiate a sneak attack on multiple enemies in a very close quarters formation, as an assassin, would you rather have a weapon that would only be effective against one person at a time, albeit faster at charging and swinging, or a weapon that could swing at multiple people at one time with great damage and potentially give you a high alpha damage through the raijin's sheathed charging ability?

Gentleman, I'd always pick the latter.

It is still and outdated weapon , moreover it is incredibly situational and unreliable where a simple rifle would suffice to fill that role and then some.

It's purported merits do not outweigh the incredibly limited applications of the weapon on modern battlefields where conflicts require flexibility of the participant forces. Not only this but significantly more intensive training and more skilled operatives would be required of modern forces and mercenary companies in order to deploy such soldiers with effectiveness, and to market those kinds of soldiers as the forefront of military technology would not be a simple task.

There remains no role for this weapon where a singular entrenched position can decimate entire columns of soldiers and HAV rumble across the battlefield with relative impunity amidst orbital cannon fire.

It's as incredibly limited as Nova Knives and Cloaks. Most people shouldn't be using them in the majority of their situations, however they are incredibly effective for those who do use them and are in the right situations. Again, most of these people are scouts. The high-speed, high-agility, and capability for stealth and evasion makes them the perfect candidates. Simply, all that these swords do is offer an option for melee weapons. It's as simple as choosing whether or not to have a sword or a knife. Both effective, but with different capabilities such as swinging speed, damage, strike range, potential for hitting multiple targets, etc.

Can you really argue a difference between the nova knives and these, if you will, plasma swords and not make the nova knives seem just as useless?


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sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2822	Posted - 2015.02.02 04:20:00 - [1] - Quote These will fail, I can not deny it despite wanting to. Swords are, as Kador said, outdated. The only reason Nova Knives work is because they are short, easily concealed weapons that are able to cut down opponents rather quickly, even with this it is a weapon that takes skill to use. *Keshava for Gallente Vehicle!* . a+¬a¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë a+¬a¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+¬a¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge 2843	Posted - 2015.02.04 21:57:00 - [2] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: True Adamance wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Myofibril Stimulants already work well in my opinion. I believe that a long bladed weapon would be too clumsy in CQC. Only a retractable and small weapon would be useful. Anyways, with the current success of Nova Knives any new dropsuit based m+¬l+¬e weapon would struggle to gain a following unless it offered a benefit that the Caldari blades currently lack. Ahh but it does. I believe you all are missing a few keys points of these swords' design. Giving an assassin better range and the ability to hit multiple enemies at once is something I could see myself using, especially in tight quarters where enemies are bound to bunch up. I mean in a situation where you're about to initiate a sneak attack on multiple enemies in a very close quarters formation, as an assassin, would you rather have a weapon that would only be effective against one person at a time, albeit faster at charging and swinging, or a weapon that could swing at multiple people at one time with great damage and potentially give you a high alpha damage through the raijin's sheathed charging ability? Gentleman, I'd always pick the latter. It is still and outdated weapon , moreover it is incredibly situational and unreliable where a simple rifle would suffice to fill that role and then some. It's purported merits do not outweigh the incredibly limited applications of the weapon on modern battlefields where conflicts require flexibility of the participant forces. Not only this but significantly more intensive training and more skilled operatives would be required of modern forces and mercenary companies in order to deploy such soldiers with effectiveness, and to market those kinds of soldiers as the forefront of military technology would not be a simple task. There remains no role for this weapon where a singular entrenched position can decimate entire columns of soldiers and HAV rumble across the battlefield with relative impunity amidst orbital cannon fire. It's as incredibly limited as Nova Knives and Cloaks. Most people shouldn't be using them in the majority of their situations, however they are incredibly effective for those who do use them and are in the right situations. Again, most of these people are scouts. The high-speed, high-agility, and capability for stealth and evasion makes them the perfect candidates. Simply, all that these swords do is offer an option for melee weapons. It's as simple as choosing whether or not to have a sword or a knife. Both effective, but with different capabilities such as swinging speed, damage, strike range, potential for hitting multiple targets, etc. Can you really argue a difference between the nova knives and these, if you will, plasma swords and not make the nova knives seem just as useless? Ahem, I do believe I can. Nova Knives are faster, can slice multiple times, deals out awe inspiring damage. These are also useful in assassinations as they can be concealed, but can you conceal a sword of that size? Nova Knives have an advantage of damage done to opponent, speed, size, and they just make sense. These advantages allows them to be semi-useful whereas Plasma Swords would be large, slow, and strong. Nova Knives are still useless unless they are within two metres which makes them far less useful compared to simple rifles. Besides, who really wants a large, useless knockoff? *Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!"* - Edgar Allan Poe