I'm gonna have a field day trolling this thread.

The basic frames are for all around play, the racial frames are for specialized roles, that's why they're there.

I don't know what it is but something here seems off, and I don't know what, not the topic or the layout but......

Anyway, first of all you come across as an elitist blowhard, no one here cares for your position or wallet they're here to improve the game. (Or complain)


Pardons if I come off hostile, or if grammar is off, tired at the moment.

If that's what they're here for they do a terrible job. They have the same base stats as their specialized roles, and the module layout is always either worse than their specialized role(assaults), slightly different because laziness to change when other suits were changed(gal and amarr heavy frames/sentinels), or exactly the same(scout).

Thank you for your input and I didn't mean to come of as an "elitist blowhard" I was simply relying to those that will simply say you suck and post a vid of them roof top camping with a scr thinking they are good.... but like I was saying health wise all the assault suits follow the same rule a 6.5% difference.... from min to gal/cal to amarr.... but the speed doesn't follow the same rule it goes from 4.1% (amarr to gal/cal) to 10.2% (from amarr to min). looking at the big picture the min have the best speed to health ratio wile the amarr have the worst... of course you wouldn't agree because you are a min but it honestly makes no sense....this isn't balance

The Minass hasn't changed, it's just found it's role.

My being Matar has nothing to do with it, the Amarr is a beast to be feared.

Mind you messing with the speed/health too much can have negative effects as well an Amarr assault with damage mods, a scrambler and even more tank giving way to 9 m/s sprint via kincats? I'd cry myself to sleep every night.

If this was such a problem that the Amarr was just outclassed in every way or couldn't do their jobs (like the old scouts) I'd agree, but it isn't, Amarr remain powerful super tanks with horrific damage outputs.

The Minass hasn't changed, it's just found it's role.

My being Matar has nothing to do with it, the Amarr is a beast to be feared.

But the issue with the ratio is that min assaults get a greater advantage to biotics than amarr get to tank. If min assaults weren't so blatantly overused, I might ignore it and think it's not an issue, but that is clearly not the case...

That's what you forum people have a problem with making up **** when someone never said anything like that.....when did I say they were out classed? and if the suit was balanced they could balance the weapon more.... the min got a 15hp buff because no one was using them really but now that everyone and their mom has it you notice there was nothing wrong with it from the very beginning the 15 hp buff was unnecessary....I'm sure before the 15 health buff the ratios were more balanced but they seem to have forgotten to see how that would effect the slowest suit in the game.... get your head out of your ass and do the math if you think I am lying.... if the min assault was missing speed it rightfully deserved I would voice this complaint despite me playing mostly amarr but that's not how you people look at it....I've never been on a game where people were so hypocritical and bias lmfao

But the issue with the ratio is that min assaults get a greater advantage to biotics than amarr get to tank. If min assaults weren't so blatantly overused, I might ignore it and think it's not an issue, but that is clearly not the case...

Fair enough, I will say that overused/overpowered, bolt pistols for example aren't used often but can cause enough damage to oneshot many suits regardless of level. If the Amarr aren't able to keep up (unintended joke) with the other assaults that's fine, buff her, if it's a minor thing like being slightly slower for tank and damage I'd say that's a trade: one for another.

Ignoring it if it's a problem isn't right, but if it's an acceptable trade off it's just that, a trade off for an advantage.

1v1 for 30 mill, you say? How much would you pay if I killed you with the scrambler pistol like I did last night?

Jokes and pokes aside: I agree, Amarr suits are lacking.

The one I really used to like -- Am Scout w/passives -- got nerfed into oblivion. I only use the suit now as a speed suit w/4 kincats to start PCs.

That said, every single assault suit pales in comparison to the Min Assault, IMO -- so that may be setting the bar a little high.

We can't always be nit-picking when there are always bigger issues at hand. The trade off is just too good for the min because the suit gets a very marginal loss in terms of hp when it comes to how much they gain for speed and stamina.

Bolt pistols aren't used often because the charge time is very painful, but yes it is very powerful, possibly even OP. We could try and pre-nerf things before they get abused, but that hasn't been the case, ever. Trust me I've seen many people try...

Did you really? lol im pretty sure I owned your team though bt good job, what suit were you in ill try to recall if we 1v1 or if you just blapped me wile I was fighting someone else..

Balance the amarr assault..... its missing 15 health and/or all the assaults except min is missing 1% speed in all traits.... while your at it add 10 to all their stamina regen except min...

Speed to health ratio wise the min have to much or the amarr have too little.....we have the same difference in health that the gal/cal have with the min which is 35... but for speed min seems to have its own rule.... if its because they are speed then we are health we shouldn't have the same health difference gal/cal have to the min... either the min gets brought down from 10.4% more speed to 8.2% or we get the health you guys intended the amarr to have... I know most of you aren't amarr so you will disagree without a thought but balance wise this is in imbalance. think logically and not like bitches and you will see that.........

The bonus is good but the suit lacks stats....if you use anything other than a scrambler you are better of using another suit because they have a better speed to health ratio....especially the min... that's why the min has risen beyond gal scout usage..... here...

and to the people that will just say you suck my reply is challenge me to a qsync 1v1 fro 30 mil and I'll show you why I am a director in this amazing corp.

on a side note I started using the min a week ago and its a great suit if I want to use any weapon other than laser/scram I just use that suit because its better.... even a freind i got to play 1 month ago that still gets confused by drop suits and damage profiles realized what I was saying when he did the math.... so you vets shouldn't have any problem seeing what up