Can you post a link with all of our posts on previous thread plz. So they can see all of our constrictive discussion.

All very interesting suggestions.

My theory. To make raids much more attainable on both side...woukd be to make raids only be 8 attackers and 8 defenders.

Make the map always a 4 point map.

Reasons why. Raids are lightning fast. They hit you hard. The enemy wouldn't form a large army to do a raid. It would be seen. Instead the pick the best of the best. The small elite raiders. And they hit.

The defender...When sensing a battle always prepares. They man the walls and have their army ready to repel. In a raid. It may be tough for every corp...even large corps...more so for the smaller corps to get 16 players to go defend it. 8 tho is very manageable.

Or as we see now in PC(myself as guilty party) included...The 16 defenders will be picked not from your corp...but from who ever you can scramble.

raids need to be small party's. Please make them 8 vs 8. Attacker has the advantage of selecting the best 8 and preparing before they attack. Defender needs the benefit of the doubt that they can field 8 players aswell. 16 may be very tough for small corps.


Other than that..If you successfully defend a raid...your district should be free from being raided for a locked period of time but not locked from being hit with real attack. When a district gets hit by a real attack it should cease all production of goo. This prevents people from locking them selves with alt corps and cashing in on goo.

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The idea is to promote fights correct? If you want fights. Make raids 8 vs 8. Both teams can manage finding 8. For a raid and 8 for the defense.

Also. Make raids...corp only. Attack and defense. This will promote using your own guys. It will also prevent well established large groups from forming raiding party's based off their elite friends. Make it corp exclusive.

Yes. Defenders with land...will need to recruit. And will stop alt corps from just using alts to raid and bringing in their real corp as ringers.

8 vs 8. Way to go with raids.

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Can raids be a dom or an ambush. It should be about inflicting clone damage. Smash and grab. 8V8 dom or ambush woukd be an exciting change.

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8v8. My answers final lol.

Would be good for both sides.

Make it 100 clones. If the defender no shows easy penalty. They lose a hundred clones on their districts. This will weakened their defence against a real attack.

Point of raid. Strategic strike.

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Reason why I believe raids are suppose to be exclusive to Corp members..... because if not. This is going to be easy for us to form 16 elite players....not launch real attacks for pc..watch weak corps come online. Hit them. Split profit. Don't even launch real attacks ever. Farm on our districts. Or launch vs each other. Because raids more profit. I don't want that. Corp exclusive means we include our corps in our attacks. ..and makes it so weak corps don't get raided by the elites farming them

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In reference to 16v16 raid battles

Do you not see the huge issue here. You are forcing the fcs to be online at all times during their districts being online. Fcs control 16 players. With help of squad leaders. This will be a mess to defend vs 16. Unless you are in a very large and elite corp.

But it's very easy for us to form 16 elite players. And watch and wait for districts to hit.

defender has no advantage. 8v8. Corp exclusive. Prevents us farming corps.

trust me. I know. I am not concerned for my corp. Right now if this change is implemented. I will hold 4 districts. And not attack with them. Or attack friends for fun battles. I will dedicate our time to what we will call Raid Farming. We will pillage everyone using 16 elites. The small corps use to be able to counter this. Because they had time to prepare. Now. They won't. They will be slaughtered. I do not want this because I care about the game. This will greatly benefit me.

8V8. Corp exclusive. Limits the noon farming

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In reference to no show raids forcing districts to become unoccupied.

Horrible idea. No. Raids are for resources. Not occupation. District shouldn't be effected.

This is not promoting good fights this is promoting noob farming.

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What is going to happen point blank. Is Planetary conquest will turn into....no conquest. Just launching 200 clones for a fun competitive fight. Then we all form raiding parties and pillage noobs.

Because it will find out fun pc fights. We will farm you.

This is a bad idea. Unless it's 8v8 and corp exclusive. So teams can defend vs us.

We will focus purely on raid ddefences. Ans farm

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Hence Corp exclusive. It is imperative. Defends and attacks. Corp exclusive.

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Farms of resource yes. Clones no

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In reference to ringers in raids.

Kane. Roman837 the CEO will thrive on this change. We will farm everyone via raids. My corp will do great given our connections.

Dan the dude who plays on Roman837. Sees this as a bad idea. And will promote huge coalitions of farming. We will fight each other in pc for the thrill of competition. Shake hands..then go to our raiding chat. Check the star map for people outside our "friend zone" and raid them.

Because as you all have pointed out there is no reason for us to go own much land. So why try and take land. When you and your corps can own that land. And through your hard work...fund us.

Sad. But very true

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No more room for the other posts you lazy *******

Raids should yield more for attacks against the better corps... Both corp win/loss and K/d should come into play.

District Count / Corp Member <--- easily fudged

Daily Missions Completed <--- not-so-easily fudged
Daily Clone Sales <--- not-so-easily fudged

Hypothetical:
Assume that districts at maximum clone capacity generate passive Isk.

not autosell, they will be need to be managed manually, and districts cleared out so as to not lose due to over capacity production

I could be wrong, but PC 2.0's Conquest Model presently lacks incentive sufficient to justify its risk exposure. From what we know so far, most corps would favor the Raider Model. I think it likely that Rattati will "add value" to holding Districts to bring Risk/Reward into equilibrium. Hence my assumption of passive Isk.

(it very well may end up being something else of value)