DUST Search - The problem with Shield suits and Laser weapons

True Adamance wrote:

duster 35000 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

duster 35000 wrote:

No, they aren't at parity.
atleast not until laser and plasma get changed towards caldari suits.

100 damage per shot is just blatantly overpowered, shield suits have what, 500, 600 shields max?

My Amarr assault has 559 Armour...... am I complaining? Nope.

Shield suits can have as much eHP especially the Assault Frame than their armour counter parts AND have better self repair capability.

My amarr assault has 641 armor, or 680.

No delay, has shields, and 2 complex damage mods.

Also, shield regen doesn't matter if 1 shot removes most of your hp, or 1/5th of it, a ScR vs a shield tanking suit will always win, no exceptions. Assuming theu aren't noobs.

One shot literally numbers wise cannot remove all of your shields.

ScR charged shot modifier is either 3.25 or 3.5 and even assuming the 100+ damage figure people like to throw around that does not amount to 600 shield HP. Thing I find about shield users is that you take 50+ rep sec on a 1-2 second regen timer for granted....how can you not find cover in less.


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xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 770	Posted - 2015.03.10 11:47:00 - [1] - Quote resurrected retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 786	Posted - 2015.03.11 07:48:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: duster 35000 wrote: True Adamance wrote: duster 35000 wrote: No, they aren't at parity. atleast not until laser and plasma get changed towards caldari suits. 100 damage per shot is just blatantly overpowered, shield suits have what, 500, 600 shields max? My Amarr assault has 559 Armour...... am I complaining? Nope. Shield suits can have as much eHP especially the Assault Frame than their armour counter parts AND have better self repair capability. My amarr assault has 641 armor, or 680. No delay, has shields, and 2 complex damage mods. Also, shield regen doesn't matter if 1 shot removes most of your hp, or 1/5th of it, a ScR vs a shield tanking suit will always win, no exceptions. Assuming theu aren't noobs. One shot literally numbers wise cannot remove all of your shields. ScR charged shot modifier is either 3.25 or 3.5 and even assuming the 100+ damage figure people like to throw around that does not amount to 600 shield HP. Thing I find about shield users is that you take 50+ rep sec on a 1-2 second regen timer for granted....how can you not find cover in less. 1-2 second regen timer is with just shield and no armor tank....my cal scout has a 1.2/1.8 second time frame (recharge, repleted recharge) with 80 armor and 453 shield. A militia scrambler rifle needs 8 shots to take my shield down...8 shots! how many bursts from a CR does it take to take down 453 armor? You need more time than a scrambler rifle does. Finding cover is not the problem...maybe, but the alpha damage is. The Scr deals alpha doesn't it? retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 786	Posted - 2015.03.11 07:50:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: This entire thread is just a cascade of fail. it is not a cascade of fail it is simply a bucket of tears....could be a bath full by now retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 786	Posted - 2015.03.11 07:58:00 - [4] - Quote directed to above poster i consider a good recharge rate for shields is if you can regen in under 10 seconds...with armor i give it 20 max. What regen do you fit on your cal assault? amount of shield regs? any plates? retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 791	Posted - 2015.03.11 12:00:00 - [5] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: xavier zor wrote: directed to above poster i consider a good recharge rate for shields is if you can regen in under 10 seconds...with armor i give it 20 max. What regen do you fit on your cal assault? amount of shield regs? any plates? Complex energizer for amarr assault. Caldaro assault, 3 complex extenders, 2 complex energizers 3 complex shield regulators Pure shield tanking is terrible in matches where the enemies aren't scrubs. Vism ScR, prof 2, 2 complex damage mods, 103 shield damage per shot. yeah, when i had my amarr assault it was beast....almost the same felling as a heavy suit, i would rather it than my stupid min assault i can't use it because i get called FoTM retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying -í° -£-û -í°