DHAVs should not want to be near AV infantry, I am talking instapop with a plc, almost LAV like.

Hw about dropship like? I've talked it over before with breaking, The ADS's of the game survive only through high manueverability and not taking sustained fire. A DHAV tank with max HP of an incubus, would go down in 3 proto forge shots, or three commando MK0 swarms. Keeping them around 5K ehp max fit would put it on the same level as a soma/sica with no modules.

My recommendation for pricing is that DHAVs be around 30% cheaper than a main battle tank at baseline. They need to be poorman HAVs. There is also no reason to have three seats in a suicide sled. The only historical justifications for glass cannons have been "scout tanks" or more commonly expense.

I recommend UHAVs be no more than 30% more expensive than main battle tanks. While I recognize they are going to be hard to kill, pilots should not feel punished for choosing to run an infantry suppression vehicle. Depending how the progression goes and what the bonuses are I would recommend that they be priced similarly to the main battle tanks.

spkr and lazer, I'm not trying to be mean or dispiriting but sadly most of your posting is negative, repetitive and arrogant. None of which make me trust or work with your feedback. And it seems you don't even read my explanations nor reasons. Sorry for singling you out but the rest of the players aren't doing that, consistently at least.

An example of useless and hostile commentary: "these fits are terrible". As I have explained I was trying to make a fit without PG/CPU mods AND have the cheapest small turrets, to demonstrate exactly the plight of HAV fitting.

Second, "we don't have PRO tanks". If you had really tried to understand the concept of the bring back initative, it was to create ADV and PRO hulls, that would be able to fit their hulls closer to how dropsuits progress through std-pro. Again, my fits demonstrate exactly how far from HAV pilots are from being able to do that with current hulls and skills.

My opinion is that active and passive fitting is perfect for vehicle combat in an FPS.

Don't forget, EVE does not have WASD movement, it is inherently less dependent on user input, and that's why it has more point and click combat, managing heat, capacity, ammo, ewar etc.

Capacitors are just one thing that could be done, needs balancing and design like any other system. Another layer of complexity does not seem like what we need when there are so many low hanging fruit.

Just going through the misery of starting to go into vehicles has opened my eyes to the HAV plight of fitting and skilling. On the other hand, in battle it's been a breeze, as in I'm having fun. I also think that a Maddie Blaster fit should be the first tank new players skill into as the turret speed is more forgiving and the charge-up of the rail makes it so much less easy to use than one might think coming from BF, for instance.

If the DHAVs are well done I'd skill this character into HAVs JUST for DHAVS.

I love doing lots of damage then dying in glorious fire

Hey, still alive, i need ideas for good bonuses.

dhavs
general
speed
dmg mod duration

faction
ROF on missiles
lower heat increase for blaster

uhavs
general
passive resists
more hp

faction
hardener and shield duration
amor rep, shield regen


any idea is a good idea