DUST Search - Gathering Questions For The CPM Disscussions.

Soraya Xel wrote:

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

1. DUST worked fine before we had a CPM - It is in no way vital to DUST, under CPM0 we had moreproblems than enough which ended up with the rouge wedding and IWS being trotted out to defend CCP with a post about old games and DLC which didnt convince anyone by the way, i dont think CPM0 could have got any worse

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Man, you have no idea. No freaking clue. And I don't know how you are still stuck on this: The CPM couldn't have stopped what happened last Fanfest. Sorry, we're simply not that powerful. It's nice to know you think so much of us, but it's simply nonsense.

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

3. Unfortunate? You havnt earned it and why do you need to see a dev do some coding? and your sit down meeting you can do on the net anyways

Where did you get the impression a business trip had to be earned? It's work, man. It's not a sightseeing trip. If you're curious how this works, check out some of the past EVE CSM's 180-page meeting minutes.

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

3a. CPM0 was not prepared for anything and that isnt stress and they did not go beyond the call of duty because they sat at a computer talking and waiting for a fanfest trip

CPM0 had one job: Set up the white paper for the first CPM election. (Which they did.) At no point in their job description where they supposed to be a full CPM, much less a CPM for 18 unending months.

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itssnowingon me The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2015.01.22 13:44:00 - [61] - Quote Since we're having enforcer tanks soon ask if we will go back to being able to select vehicle ambush and no vehicle ambush
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1968	Posted - 2015.01.22 13:45:00 - [62] - Quote How soon will the war barge return for pubs ? Will the table map in the war barge ever return ? Is there any chance theat when you select the battle finder you will have an option on what maps you would like to fight on ? Will the deployment screen ever tell you what map you are entering ? Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6831	Posted - 2015.01.22 13:49:00 - [63] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: How soon will the war barge return for pubs ? Will the table map in the war barge ever return ? Is there any chance there when you select the battle finder you will have an option on what maps you would like to fight on? Will the deployment screen ever tell you what map you are entering? This is kind of what I was afraid would happen... These kind of questions, while all great, are things that CCP would tell the CPM officers under the NDA. They literally can't answer them for us. The best answer we would get is something like "We had a meeting about that recently" or something equally as vague. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1968	Posted - 2015.01.22 13:53:00 - [64] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: pegasis prime wrote: How soon will the war barge return for pubs ? Will the table map in the war barge ever return ? Is there any chance there when you select the battle finder you will have an option on what maps you would like to fight on? Will the deployment screen ever tell you what map you are entering? This is kind of what I was afraid would happen... These kind of questions, while all great, are things that CCP would tell the CPM officers under the NDA. They literally can't answer them for us. The best answer we would get is something like "We had a meeting about that recently" or something equally as vague. Well if you don't ask............. i honestly would love an answer but yes your more than lily correct about the nda . But if no one asks then how are they Ment to know some of us would like these things to be on the table of discussion. Your luck I didn't ask about the trams . Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 587	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:00:00 - [65] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. DUST worked fine before we had a CPM - It is in no way vital to DUST, under CPM0 we had moreproblems than enough which ended up with the rouge wedding and IWS being trotted out to defend CCP with a post about old games and DLC which didnt convince anyone by the way, i dont think CPM0 could have got any worse Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Man, you have no idea. No freaking clue. And I don't know how you are still stuck on this: The CPM couldn't have stopped what happened last Fanfest. Sorry, we're simply not that powerful. It's nice to know you think so much of us, but it's simply nonsense. Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 3. Unfortunate? You havnt earned it and why do you need to see a dev do some coding? and your sit down meeting you can do on the net anyways Where did you get the impression a business trip had to be earned? It's work, man. It's not a sightseeing trip. If you're curious how this works, check out some of the past EVE CSM's 180-page meeting minutes. Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 3a. CPM0 was not prepared for anything and that isnt stress and they did not go beyond the call of duty because they sat at a computer talking and waiting for a fanfest trip CPM0 had one job: Set up the white paper for the first CPM election. (Which they did.) At no point in their job description where they supposed to be a full CPM, much less a CPM for 18 unending months. 1. So CCP ignored CPM did the rouge wedding anyways and CPM still came out to back CCP for the trainwrech at fanfest - Again why do we need you when CCP ignores you anyways? 2. You earn it, you should have to earn it with your actions which so far doesnt account to much and it is not work, its volunteering at best and the CSM actually does stuff and talk to the playerbase, they are useful which i cannot say the same about your lot 3. Yea one job and they couldnt do that on time and it should have taken a month at best to do
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5526	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:54:00 - [66] - Quote itssnowingon me wrote: Since we're having enforcer tanks soon ask if we will go back to being able to select vehicle ambush and no vehicle ambush No idea. pegasis prime wrote: How soon will the war barge return for pubs ? Not a clue. pegasis prime wrote: Will the table map in the war barge ever return ? It never worked to begin with, so probably never. pegasis prime wrote: Is there any chance theat when you select the battle finder you will have an option on what maps you would like to fight on ? Probably not. pegasis prime wrote: Will the deployment screen ever tell you what map you are entering ? I hope someday. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5526	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:59:00 - [67] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. So CCP ignored CPM did the rouge wedding anyways and CPM still came out to back CCP for the trainwrech at fanfest - Again why do we need you when CCP ignores you anyways? It's a matter of scale. We can talk to the game devs about a lot of stuff, and affect things on that scale. But for the most part, big company-sized decisions that would be made at the boardroom level are rarely going to be something we can do anything about. Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 2. You earn it, you should have to earn it with your actions which so far doesnt account to much and it is not work, its volunteering at best and the CSM actually does stuff and talk to the playerbase, they are useful which i cannot say the same about your lot If CCP wasn't convinced any particular person was worth paying to fly anywhere, I suspect they would not receive a plane ticket. (Are you aware that only like half the CSM gets flown to their summit?) I'm talking to the playerbase right now. And yes, it actually is work. I'm sure IWS can present you with some examples of what he's been working on. Spreadsheets, man. Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 3. Yea one job and they couldnt do that on time and it should have taken a month at best to do Yeah, it really didn't take CPM0 that long to do their job. The rest was CCP dragging them along for the ride. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.


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