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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.21 04:53:00 -
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Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills.
All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it
What a way to show your skills right?
Changes to Damage mods!
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
346
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:05:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right?
Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5649
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:10:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. I wouldn't drive a Porsche in the town I live in. I would find it in pieces when I return from it if I do my groceries here. That, and then I would get mugged and shanked.
Plus, I really like the Nissan Altima. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1115
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:11:00 -
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Proto community? Have a bag full of seats son.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1115
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:12:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. I wouldn't drive a Porsche in the town I live in. I would find it in pieces when I return from it if I do my groceries here. That, and then I would get mugged and shanked. Plus, I really like the Nissan Altima.
Minmatar neighborhood eh?
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
346
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:16:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Joel II X wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. I wouldn't drive a Porsche in the town I live in. I would find it in pieces when I return from it if I do my groceries here. That, and then I would get mugged and shanked. Plus, I really like the Nissan Altima. Minmatar neighborhood eh?
^ Bump, LMFAO!!!!!
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5649
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:19:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Joel II X wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. I wouldn't drive a Porsche in the town I live in. I would find it in pieces when I return from it if I do my groceries here. That, and then I would get mugged and shanked. Plus, I really like the Nissan Altima. Minmatar neighborhood eh? Lol yeah... :/ i didn't choose the thug life. The thug life chose me. |
Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
817
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:19:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Proto community? Have a bag full of seats son. I mean the players that run Proto 24/7 andwhen confronted about it theypull the "I can be just as good in any suit" card, yet you inly see them running only Proto.
Changes to Damage mods!
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1115
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Posted - 2015.01.21 05:26:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Joel II X wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. I wouldn't drive a Porsche in the town I live in. I would find it in pieces when I return from it if I do my groceries here. That, and then I would get mugged and shanked. Plus, I really like the Nissan Altima. Minmatar neighborhood eh? Lol yeah... :/ i didn't choose the thug life. The thug life chose me.
Rims on your LAV?
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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KingA2thur
35
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Posted - 2015.01.21 07:12:00 -
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I am using Std and Mlt gear only. It is fun to kill a proto with mlt scout Such satisfaction All that guys that say they would slay in like they do in proto fits lie. Or if they do then only with the help of their squad mates. Would like to see a video of that proto stompers solo in mlt fits.
To get trolled press any key.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3620
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Posted - 2015.01.21 07:46:00 -
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Well of course they wouldn't, thier is to much risk. I don't run PRO in pubs, ever, don't have the ISK for it, infact I barely run ADV nowadays.
The 'PRO community' all belong to the PC corps (or did) and probably have more isk than I can fathom.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
464
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Posted - 2015.01.21 07:50:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? I stomp in mlt/BPO 10x more than i do in proto, I also make a fk ton more money that way, but the games become a lot longer.... |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
568
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Posted - 2015.01.21 09:00:00 -
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who gives a fuk what people run |
xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
446
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Posted - 2015.01.21 09:03:00 -
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KingA2thur wrote:I am using Std and Mlt gear only. It is fun to kill a proto with mlt scout Such satisfaction All that guys that say they would slay in like they do in proto fits lie. Or if they do then only with the help of their squad mates. Would like to see a video of that proto stompers solo in mlt fits.
saxonmish made one :D
Official Ishokune supporter
Knifed duna2002's tank, then the mercenary himself
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7922
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Posted - 2015.01.21 10:07:00 -
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There will never be a true, competitive nature in this game because CCP is too terrified to remove power-leveled, tier based gear and are just as likely to never implement game modes that contribute to a fun gameplay experience that doesn't rely on that gear.
For some reason CCP Shanghai took the 'competitive' nature of Eve Online to a whole new level in all the wrong directions and to this day will not do anything about it for whatever reason.
There is nothing competitive about power levels and it's the entire reason why no other FPS game has it. Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously.
Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1573
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Posted - 2015.01.21 10:36:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right?
Skills in new eden are not what u think.
Strafe in a super fast suit because hit detection can't get u. become invisible and OHK people. Use the most powerful turret available, from the redline.
This is a game for people that would rather get imaginary money than enjoy themselves.
Crush them
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xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
447
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Posted - 2015.01.21 10:50:00 -
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Darken-sol
its called skill...'Adapt or Die'
the cloak is one of those 'Adapt or Die' scenarios. Either use this great tool or die whenever you traverse terrain as that is what it should be used for. I agree with the redline turrets though. I hate 'em. The shotgun-cloak combo is so scrub though.
Stabbed to death:
Radar R4D-47, duna2002, killed again
more to come...
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xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
447
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Posted - 2015.01.21 10:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:There will never be a true, competitive nature in this game because CCP is too terrified to remove power-leveled, tier based gear and are just as likely to never implement game modes that contribute to a fun gameplay experience that doesn't rely on that gear.
For some reason CCP Shanghai took the 'competitive' nature of Eve Online to a whole new level in all the wrong directions and to this day will not do anything about it for whatever reason.
There is nothing competitive about power levels and it's the entire reason why no other FPS game has it. Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously.
LOL. Alot of people take this game seriously. Unlike many shallow FPS this one requires more tactics so the 'noob' can still wreck by using good tactics just like everyone else can.
Stabbed to death:
Radar R4D-47, duna2002, killed again
more to come...
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7922
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Posted - 2015.01.21 11:08:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:There will never be a true, competitive nature in this game because CCP is too terrified to remove power-leveled, tier based gear and are just as likely to never implement game modes that contribute to a fun gameplay experience that doesn't rely on that gear.
For some reason CCP Shanghai took the 'competitive' nature of Eve Online to a whole new level in all the wrong directions and to this day will not do anything about it for whatever reason.
There is nothing competitive about power levels and it's the entire reason why no other FPS game has it. Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously. LOL. Alot of people take this game seriously. Unlike many shallow FPS this one requires more tactics so the 'noob' can still wreck by using good tactics just like everyone else can.
A lot of the 3000 people that play this game at any given time, right? This FPS doesn't require "more tactics" it just requires an HMG or a Cloaky Scout Shotgun/Nova Knife combo. There aren't any "tactics" in this game beyond fielding proto gear and a full squad in any pub match or just spamming the hell out of the FotM in PC.
But please show me some videos of your <5m SP character running all Militia gear and still managing higher than a 1.0 KDR / WLR.
Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
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xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
447
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Posted - 2015.01.21 11:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:xavier zor wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:There will never be a true, competitive nature in this game because CCP is too terrified to remove power-leveled, tier based gear and are just as likely to never implement game modes that contribute to a fun gameplay experience that doesn't rely on that gear.
For some reason CCP Shanghai took the 'competitive' nature of Eve Online to a whole new level in all the wrong directions and to this day will not do anything about it for whatever reason.
There is nothing competitive about power levels and it's the entire reason why no other FPS game has it. Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously. LOL. Alot of people take this game seriously. Unlike many shallow FPS this one requires more tactics so the 'noob' can still wreck by using good tactics just like everyone else can. A lot of the 3000 people that play this game at any given time, right? This FPS doesn't require "more tactics" it just requires an HMG or a Cloaky Scout Shotgun/Nova Knife combo. There aren't any "tactics" in this game beyond fielding proto gear and a full squad in any pub match or just spamming the hell out of the FotM in PC. But please show me some videos of your <5m SP character running all Militia gear and still managing higher than a 1.0 KDR / WLR.
Is that a trick question??? Here are a few ways off the top of my head
redline sniping murder-taxi'ing redline railtanking logi-heavy action sticking with your team playing with a squad...AS a squad knowing how to aim dropship road-killing sniper hunting any form of shotgun-scout dropping remotes onto a point from a high spot out of danger skilling into proto nanohives and core locus grenades with that 5 million SP and SPAMMIN 'EM DOWN RANGE!!! (joking)
Stabbed to death:
Radar R4D-47, duna2002, killed again
more to come...
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
3156
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Posted - 2015.01.21 11:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously. I think there are far bigger reasons that would would be better "pertinent reasons as to why not many people actually take this game seriously." The EVE community probably doesn't because "what is CCP doing making that other side game?!", at least that is what I have gathered from being on both sides. Stupid "Daddy loves me more!" stuff that doesn't happen with Blizzard's or Valve's games. Choppy frame rate/visuals, a game that takes a lot of time to get anything out of it, and failing to be what is was supposed are what most people focus on. IGN's review.
But yes, I agree with the nature of power tiered gear. When there is a clearly superior option beyond "what are you wanting to do", play becomes less important. In PvP in an MMO, if one guy has the best gear and the other guy has mediocre, the favor is heavily on the guy with the gear. In DUST this is less true but still important. My Prototype Scout will have nearly twice the HP of a Basic Scout, be harder to see, deal more damage, and the only detriment is that it will cost more ISK and that it took time to get it. DUST is in a weird environment where it wants you to both work to getting the best stuff, like in EVE, but in a shooter simply "being better" is not the best idea.
To the OP: Ehh, I am on the fence. Most of the time, it is dedicated Squads that are winning the game rather than the prototype gear. A full on squad of guys using Basic Suits and Basic Weapons could probably do the same 'proto stomp' that we see ever match. For me, I just came to the conclusion of "why am I still using basic gear when I have Prototype gear and the money to use it? ISK is pointless and the SP WILL be useless if I do not utilize it."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15160
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:23:00 -
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That guy was me.
And after I decided to take the challenge myself, I concluded that killing someone in a PRO suit with STD/MLT gear is possible if you're leagues better than them but if they're on the same skill level as you then you'll have no chances of killing them unless you get lucky and catch them by surprise.
If you get killed by someone with a MLT suit in a 1v1, you're either unlucky or terrible at this game.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1864
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I concluded that killing someone in a PRO suit with STD/MLT gear is possible if you're leagues better than them but if they're on the same skill level as you then you'll have no chances of killing them unless you get lucky and catch them by surprise. one of the reason why suit tiercide should be here since the beginning. I cant imagine it being fun to be matched against people with about twice the hp and ~20% more damage
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14543
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:43:00 -
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If I am ISK positive in a PRO suit, why should I stop?
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6788
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:If I am ISK positive in a PRO suit, why should I stop? Quoted for truth.
If you can go ISK positive in advanced, do it. If you can go ISK positive in proto, do it. If you don't give two ***** about losing 2mil ISK in one match because you are a bawla, then do it. If you only run militia/standard fittings and love to know you make 200,000 ISK+ per match in pubs, do it.
Fit what you want. Lose what you are comfortable with losing.
I run advanced. It gives you a nice step up in power, without feeling like you are playing Dust with training wheels. That being said, I don't hate on people running proto every game. That's their business.
...unless you are a proto HMG proto Amarr sentinel. You can go **** yourself with a cactus drenched in pepper spray.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14544
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:54:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Well of course they wouldn't, thier is to much risk. I don't run PRO in pubs, ever, don't have the ISK for it, infact I barely run ADV nowadays.
The 'PRO community' all belong to the PC corps (or did) and probably have more isk than I can fathom. I can count on my fingers my PC match count.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14544
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Posted - 2015.01.21 14:56:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote: ...unless you are a proto HMG proto Amarr sentinel. You can go **** yourself with a cactus drenched in pepper spray.
QFT
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7935
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Posted - 2015.01.21 20:37:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Just as well, you will never find a player who plays Dust 514 that is willing to admit that it is probably the most pertinent reason as to why not many people actually take this game seriously. I think there are far bigger reasons that would would be better "pertinent reasons as to why not many people actually take this game seriously." The EVE community probably doesn't because "what is CCP doing making that other side game?!", at least that is what I have gathered from being on both sides. Stupid "Daddy loves me more!" stuff that doesn't happen with Blizzard's or Valve's games. Choppy frame rate/visuals, a game that takes a lot of time to get anything out of it, and failing to be what is was supposed are what most people focus on. IGN's review. But yes, I agree with the nature of power tiered gear. When there is a clearly superior option beyond "what are you wanting to do", play becomes less important. In PvP in an MMO, if one guy has the best gear and the other guy has mediocre, the favor is heavily on the guy with the gear. In DUST this is less true but still important. My Prototype Scout will have nearly twice the HP of a Basic Scout, be harder to see, deal more damage, and the only detriment is that it will cost more ISK and that it took time to get it. DUST is in a weird environment where it wants you to both work to getting the best stuff, like in EVE, but in a shooter simply "being better" is not the best idea. To the OP: Ehh, I am on the fence. Most of the time, it is dedicated Squads that are winning the game rather than the prototype gear. A full on squad of guys using Basic Suits and Basic Weapons could probably do the same 'proto stomp' that we see ever match. For me, I just came to the conclusion of "why am I still using basic gear when I have Prototype gear and the money to use it? ISK is pointless and the SP WILL be useless if I do not utilize it."
Eve isn't about 'the best gear' in any sense of the world though. Sure, T2 guns help. Sure, T3 versatility is great. It's not going to win you the war though and Eve is much less reliant on power-levels than Dust 514 is.
Even with the best gear in the game a Frigate is never going to be able to single-handedly kill a Titan. It's an extreme example, absolutely, but if you pit a BPO outfitted merc against a Prototype outfitted merc, there's a lot of consideration that has to be taken into account. The BPO gear is still sufficient enough to actually kill even the most experienced veteran with the best gear in the game. A lot of people bring up the whole 'oh well you get a rookie ship in eve for free' but that rookie ship is never going to kill anything beyond a Frigate (MAYBE a cruiser).
Power level shouldn't be everything. There is a whole rock/paper/scissors meta in Eve Online that a lot of people don't really realize. AHACs are great against Battleships because of their speed and size, Battlecruisers are great against AHACs because of their sheer damage output and relative size, Battleships are great against Battlecruisers. It all comes full circle. This sort of thing doesn't happen in Dust 514 because everyone can kill everyone and the power levels are just that. There is no rock, paper, scissors beyond a small variation in TTK (talking fractions of a second) depending on what weapon you use and whether or not you're using shields or armor.
So, that being said, the power level gimmick is just that: A power level. It increases based on the gear you use as opposed ot something like Eve Online where a new player can still wreck kitten against an experienced player in the right conditions.
Sniper range nerf did nothing but make it harder to counter-snipe redliners. That and open up for really stupid feedback
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
621
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Posted - 2015.01.21 21:35:00 -
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I could probably still own people while butt naked, I just don't feel like I need to prove it.
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6812
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Posted - 2015.01.21 21:44:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:I could probably still own people while butt naked, I just don't feel like I need to prove it. And all of us thank you for that.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
16727
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:05:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right?
I always love these arguments.
I'm not a competitive player but why would you not use the best stuff you have in a fight? I mean I spent 2 years playing this game.... who the **** cares if someone things I suck or are being carried by my gear.
Dust isn't fun without a little risk and honestly its not even that much fun...... I have to stack proto and officer tier stuff on my suits to even give a **** about loosing a tank or dropsuit.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Pocket Rocket Girl
Psygod9
256
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:08:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Proto community? Have a bag full of seats son. I mean the players that run Proto 24/7 andwhen confronted about it theypull the "I can be just as good in any suit" card, yet you inly see them running only Proto.
scenarios
players run proto 24/7, gets to 1/4 armor runs to resupply depot switches to BPO Apex fit
players run proto 24/7, gets killed leaves game.
players run proto 24/7 gets killed switches to miltita gear continues to get killed QQ's on forum
players run proto 24/7 gets killed sends hate mail and red line snipes with thale in sent armarr 1k+ armor
Sir Dukey-
If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
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sir RAVEN WING
MONSTER SYNERGY
2710
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:11:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. You! Were you stacking damage mods that match? If not how did you kill me? I was using a proto AR in it's optimal when you used a regular RR against a shield tank.
"Fuck Your Proto" - Random words
I'm not afraid of death, my corporation is.
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Viktor's Alt
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
22
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:25:00 -
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I remember that thread and I'm pretty sure i said something along the lines of.
I have nothing to prove to you because the wolf does not concern himself with opinions of the sheep.
))<>(( Back and Forth 4EVA
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DozersMouse XIII
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
928
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:28:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? you do realize going against people that run proto brings a better payout at the end of battle
- "I had no idea you could milk a cat."
- "Oh yeah, you can milk anything with nipples."
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Xmar Handfelid
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
51
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:50:00 -
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Ever since I played dust I figured that this game doesn't require skill at all and thanks to the respeac I have mostly every thing on level5 not including corporation skilling. And here is how to win every game
-use a proto blaster tank with armor reps -use a cloak with a shotgun and nova knife - be a heavy with a logi at your side -join a corp that has enough isk that would make sver look like a beginners corp -use a proto srambler rifle - get every single bpo
And there you now have beaten Dust 514
Jimmies status- Unrustled
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
335
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Posted - 2015.01.21 22:53:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:KingA2thur wrote:I am using Std and Mlt gear only. It is fun to kill a proto with mlt scout Such satisfaction All that guys that say they would slay in like they do in proto fits lie. Or if they do then only with the help of their squad mates. Would like to see a video of that proto stompers solo in mlt fits. saxonmish made one :D
yea it was suit and gun.....not 100% militia but respect all the same |
KingA2thur
35
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Posted - 2015.01.24 12:44:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:KingA2thur wrote:I am using Std and Mlt gear only. It is fun to kill a proto with mlt scout Such satisfaction All that guys that say they would slay in like they do in proto fits lie. Or if they do then only with the help of their squad mates. Would like to see a video of that proto stompers solo in mlt fits. saxonmish made one :D
He made a video where he is running MLT fit but he still was in a squad where everybody used proto fits. And lots of kills were with the help of his squad members.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2015.01.24 13:29:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? I run militia all the time lol and I stomp with it ..but i have 5 proto vets carrying me
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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El Supermano
Mexican Justice League
26
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:12:00 -
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Xmar Handfelid wrote:Ever since I played dust I figured that this game doesn't require skill at all and thanks to the respeac I have mostly every thing on level5 not including corporation skilling. And here is how to win every game
-use a proto blaster tank with armor reps -use a cloak with a shotgun and nova knife - be a heavy with a logi at your side -join a corp that has enough isk that would make sver look like a beginners corp -use a proto srambler rifle - get every single bpo
And there you now have beaten Dust 514
Wait, sver isn't a starter corp?
Has the ability to leap a hundred lowriders in a single bound.
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El Supermano
Mexican Justice League
26
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:17:00 -
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Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Proto community? Have a bag full of seats son. I mean the players that run Proto 24/7 andwhen confronted about it theypull the "I can be just as good in any suit" card, yet you inly see them running only Proto. scenarios players run proto 24/7, gets to 1/4 armor runs to resupply depot switches to BPO Apex fit players run proto 24/7, gets killed leaves game. players run proto 24/7 gets killed switches to miltita gear continues to get killed QQ's on forum players run proto 24/7 gets killed sends hate mail and red line snipes with thale in sent armarr 1k+ armor
Runs advanced gear all the time, sees reds running proto, switch to proto, makes a fine cup of earl grey for each one of them killed before bleeding them out.
Has the ability to leap a hundred lowriders in a single bound.
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2418
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:19:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Back in November a guy suggested running all MLT for the month as a fun challenge and to see how many people actually depend on Proto gear rather than actual skills. All I saw in the thread was a bunch of guys saying "This is useless, I can stomp as easily in MLT gear as I do in Proto" yet nobody signed up for it What a way to show your skills right? Dude, I have a Porsche and you suggest I drive a Camry? I can drive both, but I worked hard for that Porsche. Can you outrace an equally skilled racer who is in a Porsche while you're in a Camry?
That is really what he is getting at.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1560
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Posted - 2015.01.25 01:17:00 -
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no on else including the rest of the world will care that about a chest banger is running MLT in a niche game... by all means they should run MLT but they should also shut up about it already.. the fact is CCP is not going to alter the system that their making money off of ppl wanting to compete without the grind.. they haven't stated this but they always remain silent on this subject. they're not going to create a perfect kiddy pool where no ones compelled to buy arum. there is already the academy alt/delete system for those who want to not go up against proto and those noobs fight pretty hard, it's usually a classic frontal infantry clash that most players are looking for.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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jjoemike10 O'Conner
140
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Posted - 2015.01.25 01:37:00 -
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I'm probably awful in militia gear, but I'm not gonna go find out because I'm too busy running proto:) |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1152
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Posted - 2015.01.25 02:02:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: no on else including the rest of the world will care that about a chest banger is running MLT in a niche game... by all means they should run MLT but they should also shut up about it already.. the fact is CCP is not going to alter the system that their making money off of ppl wanting to compete without the grind.. they haven't stated this but they always remain silent on this subject. they're not going to create a perfect kiddy pool where no ones compelled to buy arum. there is already the academy alt/delete system for those who want to not go up against proto and those noobs fight pretty hard, it's usually a classic frontal infantry clash that most players are looking for.
Academy battles are really knock out slugfests they're hilarious
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
1666
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Posted - 2015.01.25 02:05:00 -
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I want to see Kaizuka Sniper in a MLT frame
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5862
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Posted - 2015.01.25 02:10:00 -
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Truth be told the proto is not worth the ISK. But it's the best and the most fun.
If I were training for some real life event, I could see myself buying into this mindset. I wouldn't play baked all the time either, but it's a ******* video game.
I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 4 remaining. 175 mil ISK. Message me in game.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1561
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Posted - 2015.01.25 02:25:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: no on else including the rest of the world will care that about a chest banger is running MLT in a niche game... by all means they should run MLT but they should also shut up about it already.. the fact is CCP is not going to alter the system that their making money off of ppl wanting to compete without the grind.. they haven't stated this but they always remain silent on this subject. they're not going to create a perfect kiddy pool where no ones compelled to buy arum. there is already the academy alt/delete system for those who want to not go up against proto and those noobs fight pretty hard, it's usually a classic frontal infantry clash that most players are looking for. Academy battles are really knock out slugfests they're hilarious
it's also refreshing to see them all boarding a dropship like a deranged stampede of cattle. i'll sometimes find a dedicated gunner there
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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