i no longer fret over sp, in fact i could care less about it. this desperately needs a fix, new skills, new content, something to motivate me to grind away sp like i did in the days of old.

and not just 1 or 2 new skills, i mean an entirely new skill tree so i would hope we could spitball some ideas to ccp.

1.) movement speed- .5% per level (2.5% at 5)
2.) bandwith cost reduction- 2% per level (10% at 5)
3.) acrobatics- 2% to jump height (10% at 5)
acrobatics profiency- 5% reduction to stamina consumption when jumping(25% at 5)
4.) inertia dampning- 5% reduction to fall damage (25% at 5)
5.) diplomancy- 1% increase to purchases and sales prices (5% at 5)

if you have any of your own please keep the percentages at a modest figure and don't list skills that already exist or would be game-breaking.

Me I just max out entire weapon trees now

I'm not a fan of further increasing the gap between vets and new players with core skills

What if you could convert sp into loyalty rank

As you guys wander about looking for something to do with your SP, I'm still grinding my butt over here trying to level the playing field. As a 6 month old player with only 5 million SP (i can only play on weekends), I literally play DUST non stop over the weekend to catch up. Heck, I have other games I have to play but DUST ends up being the game I play.

As you guys wander about looking for something to do with your SP, I'm still grinding my butt over here trying to level the playing field. As a 6 month old player with only 5 million SP (i can only play on weekends), I literally play DUST non stop over the weekend to catch up. Heck, I have other games I have to play but DUST ends up being the game I play.

Well we do have warbarges coming up... I Assume there will be a fair amount of Skill points needed for them as they will kinda be mid-end game content..

But we also need other stuff imo... such as



We need an Installations skill tree.

Leveling into operating a Large turret and a Small turret installation(Needed back in game)

Ability to buy off market and fit large turret installations to be called after a set amount of warpoints is earned.

The ability to buy and fit Small turret installations to place and use off of a Primary weapon slot.

The ability to buy Supply depots and Clone reanimation units off the market and fit them, Can call them in, in exchange for a large amount of war-points .... And then score war-points off their operation.


Minmatar and Amarrian turrets and vehicles.

Logi LAV's with a Repair tool "Turret" in the back that repairs shields and later allows for multiple mercenary lock. Logi LAV ftw.

Jet Bikes.

Market skills that allow discounts and NPC buyback increases.... Lvl 1-5 allowing 1-5% discount or buy back bonus.


Core skills right now take nearly 30mil SP+ to get at a competitive level with the average vet. Though there is merit in core skills and how it is currently done.. expanding that gap without an intuitive New player experience crafted for players that are just getting into DUST....

We are just hurting ourselves requesting more core skills at this point..

many good ideas, however calling in installations (turrets,depots) could be problematic requiring a *ton* of dev work to be both balanced and non glitched. for example calling in large rail turret on a roof top would be op and by the size of it could crush many good campers (would be funny though).

logi lav would need low ehp to be balanced. devalue'ing the pratical implications but, would be useful given the right scenario.

jet bikes for gods sake yes

30m is an exaggeration i'm setting on 46m sp and i was stomping long before then, but of course all my sp investments was properly spent :).
that is why all the skills i listed contributes to survival'bility more than combat'bility asides from movement speed which contributes too strafing and back peddling which is why i stated 0.5% per level.

To go along with the acrobatics, make a biotic upgrade that can increase your jump hight or something. Also, I had an idea. I think that CPU and PG upgrades should be classified as "Hybrid Modules". This will allow you to place in either a high or a low but not both maybe.