DUST Search - Plasma Cannons should do more DPS than Swarms.

Vesta Opalus wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Juno Tristan wrote:

Quick question, what do you think vehicles should do on the battlefield?

Not be pissed off because they only getting killed by swarms because swarms are the only viable light AV. Lol

1.)Transportation. That's pretty much the main purpose of a vehicle right there.

But I'm sure you are talking about only HAVs when you say "vehicles"...
In that case,

1.) Infantry Suppression, when used in conjunction with infantry. Their presence should cause non-AV infantry to generally take cover. They currently do this pretty well.
Note: when I say suppression, I don't mean killing. HAVs should be able to kill infantry, but their role should not be to farm them.

2.) AV. Large Turrets would remain the best AV options, even with the proposed PLC changes. So they would still have this.

3.) Installation destruction. Sorta like AV, but only HAVs have sufficient ammo reserves to make a viable role out of this.

*4.) Destruction of map assets. Not Installations. I'd like to see stuff like, walls, gates, explosive containers and doors added to the game. Stuff that only an HAV could destroy quickly. Stuff that would take multiple hits from AV, but an HAV would be much more suited for.

Went back and found the post so I could like it just for #4, would be cool to have stuff like that around that changes the flow of fights around sockets structures. Should make a suggestion from that in Features & Stuff forum

*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16684	Posted - 2015.01.19 21:18:00 - [1] - Quote The Plasma Cannon Charge time is 0.45 Seconds and 2.2 seconds on the reload...... on a Commando. You should be throwing out PLC rounds every 2.65 seconds if I am not mistaken. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16686	Posted - 2015.01.19 21:24:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: The Plasma Cannon Charge time is 0.45 Seconds and 2.2 seconds on the reload...... on a Commando. You should be throwing out PLC rounds every 2.65 seconds if I am not mistaken. If you have max skills and a proto commando, yes. If you apply that to swarms the gap widens just as happily though, so unless you want to compare maxed out items to base items and draw false conclusions from that it's sort of a pointless exercise. You make a very valid point. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16693	Posted - 2015.01.20 01:02:00 - [3] - Quote More importantly than this DPS crap why the hell have the gallente capitalised on this technology and build a massive Large Turret Anti Tank Gun using it? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16693	Posted - 2015.01.20 01:08:00 - [4] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: True Adamance wrote: More importantly than this DPS crap why the hell have the gallente capitalised on this technology and build a massive Large Turret Anti Tank Gun using it? Who knows? A plasma cannon turret with more "turret-like" stats than a Plasma Cannon would be a wonderful addition. Canister Shell or Tri Barreled Grape Shot? *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16701	Posted - 2015.01.20 03:01:00 - [5] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: ^^ You can see why I thought he was joking at first And I can see why you are afraid of having two light weapons able to kill you, rather than one. Its because youre a scrub. Anyone that thinks the SL should outDPS Plasma Cannons is by the very definition, a scrub. This is equivocal to thinking shotguns should do less DPS than something like Mass Drivers. Its ******* stupid, and the only people that would think somethinglike that are the ones who would want to keep a status quo in place. The arguement X takes more skill than Y is not a good one when asking for a buff. Not saying I don't want a powerful rocket like AT gun but this functions exactly like the RPG/SMAW many other games it doesn't need to fire faster or have significantly more damage increases. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16710	Posted - 2015.01.20 21:00:00 - [6] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Quick question, what do you think vehicles should do on the battlefield? Not be pissed off because they only getting killed by swarms because swarms are the only viable light AV. 1.)Transportation. That's pretty much the main purpose of a vehicle right there. But I'm sure you are talking about only HAVs when you say "vehicles"... In that case, 1.) Infantry Suppression, when used in conjunction with infantry. Their presence should cause non-AV infantry to generally take cover. They currently do this pretty well. Note: when I say suppression, I don't mean killing. HAVs should be able to kill infantry, but their role should not be to farm them. 2.) AV. Large Turrets would remain the best AV options, even with the proposed PLC changes. So they would still have this. 3.) Installation destruction. Sorta like AV, but only HAVs have sufficient ammo reserves to make a viable role out of this. 4.) Destruction of map assets. Not Installations. I'd like to see stuff like, walls, gates, explosive containers and doors added to the game. Stuff that only an HAV could destroy quickly. Stuff that would take multiple hits from AV, but an HAV would be much more suited for. Went back and found the post so I could like it just for #4, would be cool to have stuff like that around that changes the flow of fights around sockets structures. Should make a suggestion from that in Features & Stuff forum It's already being talked about. I brought this up weeks ago in the HAV thread. - Ground vehicles need a dedicated form of Transport (MAV) - Large Turrets should primarily be large calibre anti tank/vehicle guns with splash damage and low rates of fire. - Destruction of battlefield assets is healthy for vehicles "He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16710	Posted - 2015.01.20 21:30:00 - [7] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: The plasma cannon is already an instagib weapon. I'd like to see MAV be a hybrid of transport with dedicated strong anti infantry turrets, that way MAV could kick the crap out of infantry but a HAV could beat the heck out of MAVs, something like that. But Im sure MAV is a long way off so I wont hold my breath. That was my thought. I hate the current "assault" weapon turrets dust has now. For AV weapon produced by an Empire there would be an equivalent Anti Tank Gun mounted on their armoured vehicles that is simply bigger, better,more efficient. Plasma Cannon -> Charged Electron Cannon with Void Rounds Forge Gun -> 150mm Carbide Railgun with Super Dense Iridum Discarding Sabots Scrambler Lance -> Dual Focused Beam/Pulse Laser with Scorch Focusing Crystals "Minmatar AV" -> 200mm Artillery Cannon with Quake HEAP Rounds *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.