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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:32:00 -
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I don't know how you guys kill Gal assaults and Minmatar assaults
Can't kill a gal assault becase by the time i get them to half of thier armor my scr is about to overheat
Minmatar assault have SuP3r sc0uT str@f3 speed i cant even kill them unless i flank them from a distance which is rare
Scrambler rifle is so hard~
My fit is 3x adv.ferroscales adv.scrambler rifle 2x basic light mods adv.scrambler pistol 1x nanohive all on a Adv.Amarr assault
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Vicious Minotaur
1834
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:34:00 -
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I use 'not laser' weapons.
I am a minotaur.
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2739
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:41:00 -
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Only way you'll ever kill armor-tanked suits somewhat efficiently with something like an ScR is by stacking at least 2-3 complex damage mods.
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1727
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:44:00 -
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RE's, Nova Knives, and my personal favorite~ Bare hands~
All of the above are also quite effective at dispatching heavies~!
I want to punch.
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:45:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Only way you'll ever kill armor-tanked suits somewhat efficiently with something like an ScR is by stacking at least 2-3 complex damage mods.
Being a anti-shield person is hard every got damn person in pubs run armor tanked suits including me because im AMARR
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5582
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:45:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I use 'not laser' weapons.
Pretty much. I almost never kill armor suits with a ScR since I don't have prof, nor a decent level in Assault. Plus, since I only use it on a BPO suit, I only use militia damage mods... lol |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2458
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:47:00 -
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Flux + SK9M SMG + Circle strafe in scout - Gal & Min assaults.
Or my safest bet in my scout is to be the recon so i dont engage anyone.
Recon is an Art
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:48:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:RE's, Nova Knives, and my personal favorite~ Bare hands~
All of the above are also quite effective at dispatching heavies~!
I dont need to worry about heavies sense i can run away from them
All i need to worry about is those got damn gallente and minmatar assaults
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:48:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Flux + SK9M SMG + Circle strafe in scout - Gal & Min assaults.
Or my safest bet in my scout is to be the recon so i dont engage anyone.
IM NOT A GOT DAMN SCOUT
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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SoTa PoP
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
5740
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:49:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Flux + SK9M SMG + Circle strafe in scout - Gal & Min assaults.
Or my safest bet in my scout is to be the recon so i dont engage anyone.
You realize scouts are fast and throwing a nade is a 5 second weakness of being unable to react?
It's not wise to rely on grenades when fighting scouts.
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Sequal's Back
Les Desanusseurs
155
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:50:00 -
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I fit my Adv amarr assault like this: 4 complexe reactive plates, 2 enhenced dmg mods, adv ScR, STD breach SMG, compact hive, core grenades.
It works really great^^ I still have lots of trouble to kill gal assaults too, but it's normal as I have the worst weapon against them^^ I use the SMG to get through their armor, and same with minmatars^^
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7031
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:52:00 -
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take of min shields with scram and finish of with SMG. min assault don't give me problems as much as gal assaults.
scram rifle and scram pistol is a bit silly get something that is anti-armor for sidearm.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5582
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:53:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Flux + SK9M SMG + Circle strafe in scout - Gal & Min assaults.
Or my safest bet in my scout is to be the recon so i dont engage anyone. You realize scouts are fast and throwing a nade is a 5 second weakness of being unable to react? It's not wise to rely on grenades when fighting scouts.
Unless it's a Thukker. Well, if it's a stacked Ck.0, it won't do much. |
Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.18 22:55:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:I fit my Adv amarr assault like this: 4 complexe reactive plates, 2 enhenced dmg mods, adv ScR, STD breach SMG, compact hive, core grenades.
It works really great^^ I still have lots of trouble to kill gal assaults too, but it's normal as I have the worst weapon against them^^ I use the SMG to get through their armor, and same with minmatars^^
Reactive plates o-o??
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1843
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:12:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Only way you'll ever kill armor-tanked suits somewhat efficiently with something like an ScR is by stacking at least 2-3 complex damage mods.
fun fact, SCR deals more dps to armor than CR and RR despite the armor weakness 
Golden Day wrote:
Minmatar assault have SuP3r sc0uT str@f3 speed i cant even kill them unless i flank them from a distance which is raret
minmatar assault strafe speed is only 5% faster than caldari/assault, the eye cant even notice the difference.
conclusio, git gud is the answer. |
axINVICTUSxa
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
192
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:18:00 -
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I used to be an ScR belieber, indeed, it was the gun of choice for me....and then I found the Burst Assault Rifle, which become a love of mine, in which I began to have a love affair with the Assault Rail, whose curvers were too hot and charged up for me to handle all on my own. So every time I released a burst of shot, I have to wait up and recharge, but soon enough I am ready enough to go a second time, so I love hammering my enemies with my hot blue shot.
Man, from white plasma to hot blue rail, mm, mm, mm. The steady stream is hard to deny. Unlike ScR, which is spurt spurt spurt, and then done.
Pardon me for the refs, guys, not sure a better way to describe it.
Wherever the Wind (Aero) might take me, may it ever be True, for the way of the Commando is noble and right.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7035
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:19:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:[quote=Funkmaster Whale]Only way you'll ever kill armor-tanked suits somewhat efficiently with something like an ScR is by stacking at least 2-3 complex damage mods.
fun fact, SCR deals more dps to armor than CR and RR despite the armor weakness
Yeah but CR and RR don't overheat half way through there clip....
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:24:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Jack McReady wrote:fun fact, SCR deals more dps to armor than CR and RR despite the armor weakness Yeah but CR and RR don't overheat half way through there clip....
You know any good Amarr assault SCR fits beside the one im using now?
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
528
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:25:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:[quote=Funkmaster Whale]Only way you'll ever kill armor-tanked suits somewhat efficiently with something like an ScR is by stacking at least 2-3 complex damage mods.
fun fact, SCR deals more dps to armor than CR and RR despite the armor weakness
Fun fact: no |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1843
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:27:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Jack McReady wrote:fun fact, SCR deals more dps to armor than CR and RR despite the armor weakness Yeah but CR and RR don't overheat half way through there clip....
sure but the difference between ScR and CR damage till overheat is not that big at all unless you slap them on minmatar assault. only the RR has significantly bigger damager per clip.
the overheat is annoying at best, the impact is overrated imho. you can switch to the sidearm if required. |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10789
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Posted - 2015.01.18 23:28:00 -
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A common tactic I see skilled SCR users use when fitted with the SCR and a SCP is that they first fire off with the SCR but stop short of the overheat. They immediately swap to the SCP and fire off with that. If the SCP don't finish off the target by the time the clip is empty, then the SCR will finish them off because the rifle will be cooled down by the time they swap back to it.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:
fun fact, you have no clue.
I am not going into detail why and how to properly calculate the dps, just accept that you dont know it and you safe yourself from making yourself look stupid.
Because people who disagree with you have to be clueless and wrong. Much like your gun isn't as good as the gun you hate most -- Scramblers.
Ok. I obviously I have no clue. I will bow out of this conversation now to save as much face as I can. Many apologies sir. Forgive my ignorance.
Golden Day wrote:
Scrambler rifle is so hard~
My fit is 3x adv.ferroscales adv.scrambler rifle 2x basic light mods adv.scrambler pistol 1x nanohive all on a Adv.Amarr assault
Seriously OP, the scrambler is pretty damn good actually. Promise! |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1843
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:21:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:
Because people who disagree with you have to be clueless and wrong.
this has nothing to do with disagreeing but with numbers and that CR has burst delay which brings it way below the paper RPM it has written in its attributes. it has 1200 RPM, but only during the 0.15s timeframe it takes the CR to fire those 3 bullets and then enjoy your 0.06 second delay before you can fire the next burst which brings it down to 857 RPM total  |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1727
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:29:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Imp Smash wrote:
Because people who disagree with you have to be clueless and wrong.
this has nothing to do with disagreeing but with numbers and that CR has burst delay which brings it way below the paper RPM it has written in its attributes. it has 1200 RPM, but only during the 0.15s timeframe it takes the CR to fire those 3 bullets and then enjoy your 0.06 second delay before you can fire the next burst which brings it down to 857 RPM total
You should have said that before to clarify your point, but if you're really going into something like burst delay, you should be factoring in the time in takes to prevent the ScR from overheating in order to continue firing.
I want to punch.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
4378
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:32:00 -
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I do fine, pro 5 Amarr ass 5, 2 complex DMG mods. Run it like my gal ass, rep based.
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
872
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:36:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I do fine, pro 5 Amarr ass 5, 2 complex DMG mods. Run it like my gal ass, rep based.
You just wanted to use the word gal ass 
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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Helghus Resther
Heisen Republic
61
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:47:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:I don't know how you guys kill Gal assaults and Minmatar assaults
Can't kill a gal assault becase by the time i get them to half of thier armor my scr is about to overheat
Minmatar assault have SuP3r sc0uT str@f3 speed i cant even kill them unless i flank them from a distance which is rare
Scrambler rifle is so hard~
My fit is 3x adv.ferroscales adv.scrambler rifle 2x basic light mods adv.scrambler pistol 1x nanohive all on a Adv.Amarr assault
I might regret saying this as twats may start coming to the forums to complain but..
GK-13 burst assault rifle. I have proficiency 3, sharpshooter 2. Prototype sentinels, prototype minmatar scout/assault with stacked kinkats, prototype Amarr scouts with scrambler rifles, I drop all of them. I don't really use the Allotek much, but it'll be the same thing with more damage.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1146
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Posted - 2015.01.19 00:48:00 -
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Scr is a high alpha weapon, which means damage mods are better for them than most other weapons. Switch those basic damage mods to enhanced or complex and you will see a BIG difference in ScR effectiveness. People who say ScR are OP dont realize most people wrecking with them are running 2 or 3 complex damage mods. Its about the only way the weapon stays competetive anymore.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
533
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Posted - 2015.01.19 01:59:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Imp Smash wrote:
Because people who disagree with you have to be clueless and wrong.
this has nothing to do with disagreeing but with numbers and that CR has burst delay which brings it way below the paper RPM it has written in its attributes. it has 1200 RPM, but only during the 0.15s timeframe it takes the CR to fire those 3 bullets and then enjoy your 0.06 second delay before you can fire the next burst which brings it down to 857 RPM total You should have said that before to clarify your point, but if you're really going into something like burst delay, you should be factoring in the time in takes to prevent the ScR from overheating in order to continue firing.
This.
But actually it might be best if we did the math. What is the DPS of the STD scrambler vs armor? What is the DPS of the STD CR vs armor? I'm bad at math so I will trust you to tell me. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
351
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Posted - 2015.01.19 02:10:00 -
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Two damage mods, repper intensive and play Caldari style. Stay at range and duck and in and out of cover.
Use sidearm if CQ. Even a scr pistol is more effective at CQ than the rifle.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
1654
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Posted - 2015.01.19 02:31:00 -
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ARR is very good at this
Hit's hard and fast
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
873
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Posted - 2015.01.19 02:33:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:ARR is very good at this
Hit's hard and fast
Zindorak sssshhhhh let me slip this in.....
HAHAHAHA
Im not crazy......
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