DUST Search - Swarm chase for too much

Horizon Limit wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Horizon Limit wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Neither do HAVs, comparatively.

Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield.

I'm just using tit for tat, bruh.
And what I said is completely true. HAVs are easy mode as **** compared to killing an HAV with a Plasma Cannon.

So while we are going on about this whole ides of how higher skilled roles should be practically immune to lower skill ones, I request that vehicles are practically unable to kill me of I'm holding a Plasma Cannon. How does 10% damage sound while I've got one equipped?

It would only take you 70-80 blaster rounds to kill me, which would take about 11-12 seconds if your aim is really good. Suprise! That's about how long it takes me to kill you if my aim is good! Sounds balanced. Roll it out CCP.

Since we are in the mood of being stupid today i will post my reply at level you can understand.

What if my tank had legs, tiny size and tiny hitbox so i can squish around the corners and follow you with my blaster or my rail cannon.

Wait... that's infantry!

I don't know why guys have to be so stupid when it comes to vehicles. It's just plain logic, tanks are big and can't avoid hits, they have to "tank" them, if every AV in the game could one shot tanks, there would be no reason to use them.

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Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 144	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:31:00 - [1] - Quote What about make the swarm explode after 350-450 meters? It will still be the longest range AV weapon. INB4 Atiim post about swarm taking skill to use Cal scout vs Cal scout
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2296	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:33:00 - [2] - Quote They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? Home at Last <3
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 526	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:33:00 - [3] - Quote 1. Id rarther the SL have to guide the missiles to the target and if lock on is lost the missile blow up
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2796	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:40:00 - [4] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 144	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:42:00 - [5] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? Feels like they chase for 600+ meters Cal scout vs Cal scout
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1549	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:42:00 - [6] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? It's 400m. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1549	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:48:00 - [7] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? Feels like they chase for 600+ meters It feels like I'm a soldier in U.S. training camp and I got sniped by a terrorist somewhere in the Middle East. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2296	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:50:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? Home at Last <3
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 144	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:52:00 - [9] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? I've edited, now i suggest something between 250 & 300 meters. Cal scout vs Cal scout
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 528	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:53:00 - [10] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? 1. It requires no skill

Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 528	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:53:00 - [11] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? I've edited, now i suggest something between 250 & 300 meters. 1. Im fine with that
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2296	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:57:00 - [12] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? I've edited, now i suggest something between 250 & 300 meters. So less range than the Plasma Cannon, a Blaster? Missiles with less range than a blaster? Alright, sure... Home at Last <3
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2296	Posted - 2015.01.18 18:59:00 - [13] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? 1. It requires no skill Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Home at Last <3
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 144	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:04:00 - [14] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield. Cal scout vs Cal scout
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2796	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:05:00 - [15] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? 400m is pushing it for a sniper rifle. No reason idiot-proof auto-aim AV should have max range comparable to a sniper rifle which uses miniaturized railgun tech. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2796	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:06:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? I've edited, now i suggest something between 250 & 300 meters. So less range than the Plasma Cannon, a Blaster? Missiles with less range than a blaster? Alright, sure... What on god's green Earth are you talking about? A plasma cannon and blaster having more range than swarm missiles? The large missile turret is already capped at 250m max range. You absolutely have never been in a vehicle. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2297	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:11:00 - [17] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield. I'm just using tit for tat, bruh. And what I said is completely true. HAVs are easy mode as **** compared to killing an HAV with a Plasma Cannon. So while we are going on about this whole ides of how higher skilled roles should be practically immune to lower skill ones, I request that vehicles are practically unable to kill me of I'm holding a Plasma Cannon. How does 10% damage sound while I've got one equipped? It would only take you 70-80 blaster rounds to kill me, which would take about 11-12 seconds if your aim is really good. Suprise! That's about how long it takes me to kill you if my aim is good! Sounds balanced. Roll it out CCP. Home at Last <3
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7137	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:14:00 - [18] - Quote There is nothing wrong with Swarm Range. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2796	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:19:00 - [19] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They already explode after 300m, iirc. So, what's the complaint again? 400m Still. Point stands. 400m is within the ranges he suggested, and is in fact perfectly situated in the middle. So, what's the complaint again? 1. It requires no skill Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Because it's so easy taking on two tanks at the same time in your own tank. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 146	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:22:00 - [20] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield. I'm just using tit for tat, bruh. And what I said is completely true. HAVs are easy mode as **** compared to killing an HAV with a Plasma Cannon. So while we are going on about this whole ides of how higher skilled roles should be practically immune to lower skill ones, I request that vehicles are practically unable to kill me of I'm holding a Plasma Cannon. How does 10% damage sound while I've got one equipped? It would only take you 70-80 blaster rounds to kill me, which would take about 11-12 seconds if your aim is really good. Suprise! That's about how long it takes me to kill you if my aim is good! Sounds balanced. Roll it out CCP. Since we are in the mood of being stupid today i will post my reply at level you can understand. What if my tank had legs, tiny size and tiny hitbox so i can squish around the corners and follow you with my blaster or my rail cannon. Wait... that's infantry! I don't know why guys have to be so stupid when it comes to vehicles. It's just plain logic, tanks are big and can't avoid hits, they have to "tank" them, if every AV in the game could one shot tanks, there would be no reason to use them. Cal scout vs Cal scout

Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2299	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:23:00 - [21] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Because it's so easy taking on two tanks at the same time in your own tank. Wut. 1v2 is difficult no matter what role you use, or what roles the enemies are?! What?! That sounds like it's... working as intended! Home at Last <3
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2299	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:25:00 - [22] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield. I'm just using tit for tat, bruh. And what I said is completely true. HAVs are easy mode as **** compared to killing an HAV with a Plasma Cannon. So while we are going on about this whole ides of how higher skilled roles should be practically immune to lower skill ones, I request that vehicles are practically unable to kill me of I'm holding a Plasma Cannon. How does 10% damage sound while I've got one equipped? It would only take you 70-80 blaster rounds to kill me, which would take about 11-12 seconds if your aim is really good. Suprise! That's about how long it takes me to kill you if my aim is good! Sounds balanced. Roll it out CCP. Since we are in the mood of being stupid today i will post my reply at level you can understand. What if my tank had legs, tiny size and tiny hitbox so i can squish around the corners and follow you with my blaster or my rail cannon. Wait... that's infantry! I don't know why guys have to be so stupid when it comes to vehicles. It's just plain logic, tanks are big and can't avoid hits, they have to "tank" them, if every AV in the game could one shot tanks, there would be no reason to use them. It in no way takes more skill to shot an infantry with a Blaster than it does to shoot a vehicle with a Plasma Cannon. Giant hitscan ARs are still giant hitscan ARs. Home at Last <3
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2299	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:26:00 - [23] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Neither do HAVs, comparatively. Classic BS of someone who has never piloted anything but is ass around the battlefield. I'm just using tit for tat, bruh. And what I said is completely true. HAVs are easy mode as **** compared to killing an HAV with a Plasma Cannon. So while we are going on about this whole ides of how higher skilled roles should be practically immune to lower skill ones, I request that vehicles are practically unable to kill me of I'm holding a Plasma Cannon. How does 10% damage sound while I've got one equipped? It would only take you 70-80 blaster rounds to kill me, which would take about 11-12 seconds if your aim is really good. Suprise! That's about how long it takes me to kill you if my aim is good! Sounds balanced. Roll it out CCP. Since we are in the mood of being stupid today i will post my reply at level you can understand. What if my tank had legs, tiny size and tiny hitbox so i can squish around the corners and follow you with my blaster or my rail cannon. Wait... that's infantry! I don't know why guys have to be so stupid when it comes to vehicles. It's just plain logic, tanks are big and can't avoid hits, they have to "tank" them, if every AV in the game could one shot tanks, there would be no reason to use them. It in no way takes more skill to shoot infantry with a Blaster than it does to shoot a vehicle with a Plasma Cannon. Giant hitscan ARs are still giant hitscan ARs. Skilless, and by your logic, skilless weapons should suck, right? So we should nerf it. Home at Last <3
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 7070	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:29:00 - [24] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Feels like they chase for 600+ meters The most RAW and PERFECT example of the logic of Vehicle users while talking about AV balance. Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 146	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:31:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: It in no way takes more skill to shot an infantry with a Blaster than it does to shoot a vehicle with a Plasma Cannon. Giant hitscan ARs are still giant hitscan ARs. Ask for buff on PLC then, but remember it's gallente stuff, just because it CAN hit at long range, doesn't mean it is supposed to be used at long range. I have an alt with PLC prof 3 and galmando, it's very fun to use it, but i don't expect it to be good as forgegun against vehicle, mostly because it's good against infantry too. Cal scout vs Cal scout
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 146	Posted - 2015.01.18 19:33:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: Feels like they chase for 600+ meters The most RAW and PERFECT example of the logic of Vehicle users while talking about AV balance. Dust meters are not exactly what a meter is supposed to be, try to fly with an afterburner active at the limit of the redline and tell me how many meters you feel you have traveled. The map is over, the swarm are still chasing. Cal scout vs Cal scout
Nirwanda Vaughns 1229	Posted - 2015.01.18 20:23:00 - [27] - Quote are they adding stupidity to the water these days? the forums seem to be getting worse Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1472	Posted - 2015.01.18 21:01:00 - [28] - Quote I will take tanker complaints seriously when they can no longer jump in or out of their tank in less than a second. Right now a tanker and I can be both wearing the exact same fit, we are completely equal, then the add the tank and complain that they are the ones getting screwed. Because, that's why.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3721	Posted - 2015.01.18 21:47:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: I will take tanker complaints seriously when they can no longer jump in or out of their tank in less than a second. Well, it's not actually their fault, like it's not the fault of AV community for using what CCP give to them. Situational awareness also known as passive scan. Minmatar omni-merc
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5582	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:42:00 - [30] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Id rarther the SL have to guide the missiles to the target and if lock on is lost the missile blow up I feel as if this would require a separate button operation scheme, then. L1 to lock-on, and R1 (while holding L1) to fire. This way, you can maintain locks, but you wouldn't super-nerf the weapon by allowing the use of one volley at a time.

Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15139	Posted - 2015.01.19 04:16:00 - [31] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: INB4 Atiim post about swarm taking skill to use Edit: people talk about 400 meters, but i still feel it's too much, then go to 250-300 meters. Nah, you're most likely a scrub and not worth the time it would take to create such a detailed post. Not to mention that you didn't even bother to form an argument, so there's nothing to discuss. That said, I'll just re-fuel my Swarms and be on my way. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND


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