I'm amused as to how many trolls there are on dust compared to the regular player base we definitely inherit that form eve online

So I'm starting to see a pattern and it seems that the time that I lag the most is when I go up against certain corps or certain squads with a few of these corps teaming up.

For example I was just In an domination match where my team got completely slaughtered going up against a team that was pretty bad form what I could tell. they weren't killing a massive amount of us they just had complete control of the objective the whole match and any time I tried to go near It I'd teleport all over the place, and it seems that these players were using proto gear without really caring about the risk as if they thought they didn't have to worry which is unusual from experienced players even if they have massive amounts of isk unless they are drunk of course , It wasnt hard to pick out proto scouts and proto assault players I killed them a few times with a standard min light suit using std SCR.

I usuallly have no problem going up against people like this as long as they are not squadded up or q-synced , there was exactly six people form 3 different corps some well known ones at that I wont call out any names but I have a hard time believing that the lag is caused by poor internet or something like that.

Which leads me to believe that certain players in these corps are using some type of technique or something so that they don't have to even try to win. That to me makes no sense since there is no point in playing if you aren't risking anything.

They might as well go play COD or something maybe this is an enforcement issue if so I would like CCP to stand up and address this issue, but to be honest I would prefer new content then to have CCP waste time on these poor cheaters.

so I'm starting to see a pattern and it seems that the time that I lag the most is when I go up against certain corps or certain squads with a few of these corps teaming up. for example I was just In an domination match where my team got completely slaughtered going up against a team that was pretty bad form what I could tell. they weren't killing a massive amount of us they just had complete control of the objective the whole match and any time I tried to go near It I'd teleport all over the place, and it seems that these players were using proto gear without really caring about the risk as if they thought they didn't have to worry which is unusual form experienced players even if they have massive amounts of isk unless they are drunk of course I't wasnt hard to pick out proto scouts and proto assault players I killed them a few times with a standard min light suit using std SCR. I usuallly have no problem going up against people like this as long as they are not squadded up or q-synced there was exactly six people form 3 different corps some well known ones at that I wont call out any names but I have a hard time believing that the lag is caused by poor internet or something like that. which leads me to believe that certain players in these corps are using some type of technique or something so that they don't have to even try to win. that to me makes no sense since there is no point in playing if you aren't risking anything. they might as well go play COD or something maybe this is an enforcement issue if so I would like CCP to stand up and address this issue, but to be honest I would prefer new content then to have CCP waste time on these poor cheaters.

I'm amused as to how many trolls there are on dust compared to the regular player base we definitely inherit that form eve online

We aren't really trolling, we are giving you a hint. Use spacing between paragraphs.

so I'm starting to see a pattern and it seems that the time that I lag the most is when I go up against certain corps or certain squads with a few of these corps teaming up. for example I was just In an domination match where my team got completely slaughtered going up against a team that was pretty bad form what I could tell. they weren't killing a massive amount of us they just had complete control of the objective the whole match and any time I tried to go near It I'd teleport all over the place, and it seems that these players were using proto gear without really caring about the risk as if they thought they didn't have to worry which is unusual form experienced players even if they have massive amounts of isk unless they are drunk of course I't wasnt hard to pick out proto scouts and proto assault players I killed them a few times with a standard min light suit using std SCR. I usuallly have no problem going up against people like this as long as they are not squadded up or q-synced there was exactly six people form 3 different corps some well known ones at that I wont call out any names but I have a hard time believing that the lag is caused by poor internet or something like that. which leads me to believe that certain players in these corps are using some type of technique or something so that they don't have to even try to win. that to me makes no sense since there is no point in playing if you aren't risking anything. they might as well go play COD or something maybe this is an enforcement issue if so I would like CCP to stand up and address this issue, but to be honest I would prefer new content then to have CCP waste time on these poor cheaters.

so I'm starting to see a pattern and it seems that the time that I lag the most is when I go up against certain corps or certain squads with a few of these corps teaming up. for example I was just In an domination match where my team got completely slaughtered going up against a team that was pretty bad form what I could tell.

they weren't killing a massive amount of us they just had complete control of the objective the whole match and any time I tried to go near It I'd teleport all over the place, and it seems that these players were using proto gear without really caring about the risk as if they thought they didn't have to worry which is unusual form experienced players even if they have massive amounts of isk unless they are drunk of course I't wasnt hard to pick out proto scouts and proto assault players I killed them a few times with a standard min light suit using std SCR.

I usuallly have no problem going up against people like this as long as they are not squadded up or q-synced there was exactly six people form 3 different corps some well known ones at that I wont call out any names but I have a hard time believing that the lag is caused by poor internet or something like that. which leads me to believe that certain players in these corps are using some type of technique or something so that they don't have to even try to win.

that to me makes no sense since there is no point in playing if you aren't risking anything. they might as well go play COD or something maybe this is an enforcement issue if so I would like CCP to stand up and address this issue, but to be honest I would prefer new content then to have CCP waste time on these poor cheaters.

Now let's talk about lag. Lag is always a disadvantage for the lagger.

That's a bold statement which depends entirely how the lag prediction is coded.

Anyways, it's not about Dusts "normal lag" but about the EXTREME lag against very specific corps. Repeatedly.

Well, from what I can tell (playing since closed beta) this statement is even more valid here on Dust. the more you lag, the harder it is to kill/move, the easier is to die. You should simply try to put as preferred server a server far from you (let's say Asia): you'll surely notice a huge drop in WP / kills etc.

It probably happens that these corps are not in the same server zone as you, but they get the server.

Now let's talk about lag. Lag is always a disadvantage for the lagger.

You should simply try to put as preferred server a server far from you (let's say Asia): you'll surely notice a huge drop in WP / kills etc.

Here , this might help ... these people complain about everything and I wouldn't want people to miss the point that you were making .

As to the running of PRO without worry , well we have BPO's that allow players to bank funds now while those without or who can't afford one suffer .

Some of them always had ISK from not only BPO's but PC matches and having strong corps as well but BPO's are prob a big issue that NO ONE will address .

Despite there are methods to modify the internet packets you receive / send back , there's no way you can do such a thing with CCP anti cheat on Tranquillity. On the other side, you can't mod Dust 514 on ps3, unless you have a modded Playstation 3, which can't go online anyway.

Now let's talk about lag. Lag is always a disadvantage for the lagger.

The case you are describing: it looks like you are having framerate problems. That's actually CCP's poor (very poor) optimization of the game for PS3 (Cell architecture) and it simply happens sometimes. High latency situations may even make this problem worse.

You can try to replace your HDD with a SSD: it does solve many framerate problems (but definitely not all of them).

Lag is always a disadvantage for the one experiencing the lag which isn't always the one causing the lag.

Going to ask you what I ask all the guys that are certain of this, and then later finding themselves in serious doubt when they see what the OP describes.

Are you sure?

In this case there can't be anyone causing the lag. You can cause the lag if you're the host of a game, and since there's no host, the only plausible solution is that in ideal conditions it's the battle server lagging. That's it. And please try to remember: framerate lag is different than network lag.

So you're saying I have worse framerate on the US server than the Asian & Euro servers?

It's not so much the player themselves causing the lag, it's the system in place to keep high ping players from being at a disadvantage that is causing the lag.

It doesn't matter what anyone says, I've experienced being on the other side when my connection was throttled for going over my limit so I know the advantage a **** poor connection to the battleserver gives as I had that advantage for half a month and I was an absolute wrecking ball in every match I played in.

With all due respect I may have for a stranger, you should seriously consider checking what lag compensation does (because I think you are referring to lag compensation when you say "I know the advantage a **** poor connection to the battleserver gives as I had that advantage for half a month").

My personal experience: it happens that the higher the ping, the shittier the whole game gets for me. And it's not just me. We in Italy are known to have a really bad connection overall. And happens to all of my corpmates and all of the other italians I know.