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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7125	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:31:00 - [1] - Quote Give them the ability to shoot while running. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2279	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:33:00 - [2] - Quote Jump jets. /thread Home at Last <3
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2156	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:34:00 - [3] - Quote No Jump pack like the battlefront shock troopers. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15125	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:37:00 - [4] - Quote How about no. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7125	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:41:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: How about no. Honestly though, why would it be bad? It would be less detrimental then strafing is to the game. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1558	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:42:00 - [6] - Quote Replace equipment with a second grenade Crush them
Vicious Minotaur 1826	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:42:00 - [7] - Quote Teleportation like Nightcrawler. Functionally similar to Dishonored's teleport-whatchamacallit ability. Boom. Game made better. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5553	Posted - 2015.01.18 00:50:00 - [8] - Quote Assaults having jumpjets would be awesome. (And give scouts Mirrors Edge movement ) What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 715	Posted - 2015.01.18 01:45:00 - [9] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade I had the second grenade idea while ago. Turns out they actually looked into it but poo-pooed it because of techno-babble reasons. AKA - StarVenger
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5061	Posted - 2015.01.18 01:49:00 - [10] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade That would be another nerf to the class, grenades can't even kill heavies or anything over 500hp which is just about everything that moves in this game. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!

shadow336k Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 256	Posted - 2015.01.18 01:52:00 - [11] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade That would be another nerf to the class, grenades can't even kill heavies or anything over 500hp which is just about everything that moves in this game. 3 words. Core Locus Grenade my mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 347	Posted - 2015.01.18 02:51:00 - [12] - Quote Just give assaults the bonuses to make rifles as good as they are now. Rifles otherwise would be nerfed in effectivness. Then to balance it, reduce module slots for less defense. Thus making an assault what it is supposed to be. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2280	Posted - 2015.01.18 03:09:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Just give assaults the bonuses to make rifles as good as they are now. Rifles otherwise would be nerfed in effectivness. Then to balance it, reduce module slots for less defense. Thus making an assault what it is supposed to be. Heavy fodder? Shotgun bait? Home at Last <3
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4694	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:01:00 - [14] - Quote It is true that there is little to separate Assaults from the basic medium frames. Aside from suit bonuses, slightly more HP, and color, medium basics and Assaults are virtually the same. In order to make the Assault class more unique, I propose it receive a cosmetic enhancement to its derriere to help better accentuate the "ass" in assault.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5062	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:21:00 - [15] - Quote shadow336k wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade That would be another nerf to the class, grenades can't even kill heavies or anything over 500hp which is just about everything that moves in this game. 3 words. Core Locus Grenade Why does it need to be proto to effectively kill another player? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2015.01.18 06:31:00 - [16] - Quote shadow336k wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade That would be another nerf to the class, grenades can't even kill heavies or anything over 500hp which is just about everything that moves in this game. 3 words. Core Locus Grenade After 40 mil sp I still haven't maxxed out grenades.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 3141	Posted - 2015.01.18 07:03:00 - [17] - Quote The Assault class is in an absolutely terrible place at the moment. It has less reason to exist than even the much maligned Commando. Every other suit, by looking at the bonuses across the suits, has a clear role and a method that screams "this is what I am supposed to do." * Scout: "Uses Cloak. Caldari is good at not being seen and scanning non-dampened suits from far away, Minmatar is really good at hacking both the objective and people to bits, Gallente is a ghost, and Amarr is really good at scanning even the smaller targets." These guys are sneaky. * Sentinel: "Uses Heavy Weapon. Caldari has fast Shield recharge and bonuses against Blasters and Lasers, Minmatar is a little faster with bonuses against Lasers/Blasters, Gallente has a faster base armor recharge with a bonus against Rail/Projectile, and Amarr has higher EHP with bonuses against Projectiles/Rail." These guys are tanks and their bonus is "3% bonus against nemesis weapon and 2% bonus against ally weapon." * Commando: "Uses two Light Weapons. Each one has a faster reload and a bonus to the race's weapon of choice." High versatility and damage. * Logistics: "Uses lots of equipment. Caldari has better nanites, Minmatar has better repair tools, Gallente has a better scanner, and Amarr has better uplinks." These guys are support. * Assault: "Medium frame that is faster than the Logistics and slightly more tanky. Caldari get a bonus Rail reload, Minmatar receives more ammo per magazine of Projectile weapons, Gallente get a bonus to hipfire for Blaster weapons, and Amarr get a reduction in heat build up." I honestly do not know how to sum up the Assault suit. The Assault doesn't have a philosophy like the other suits such as "Support" or "Sneaky." The entire role that gets put upon the class is based entirely on it's name; "Assaults are supposed 'assault'." I have seen entire threads go on and on how Assaults cannot 'assault', all because the only way we can assign any kind of purpose to the suit is by looking at the name. Unlike all the other Dropsuits, the Assault either doesn't get a consistent bonus to help for what it is meant to do or it doesn't get a bonus that clearly shows what it should be good at. The Logistics, Commando, and Sentinel give pretty much the same bonuses even if they are different (if that makes sense). Scouts do have a huge difference of bonuses between them but the bonuses make it clear what they should be striving to do. Assaults, not so much. All are slightly better with their weapons but the bonuses don't relate well to each other and do not give a clear cut 'role' that each suit is meant to do. Something certainly needs to happen with them. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 979	Posted - 2015.01.18 07:22:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: How about no. How about come up with a counter argument. Assaults are not in a good place right now and need some loving, whatever that might be. FOR THE STATE
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5577	Posted - 2015.01.18 08:06:00 - [19] - Quote Shield Generators!
demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 448	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:37:00 - [20] - Quote shadow336k wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Replace equipment with a second grenade That would be another nerf to the class, grenades can't even kill heavies or anything over 500hp which is just about everything that moves in this game. 3 words. Core Locus Grenade a core locus nade cant even kill my mlt BPO suit

demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 448	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:39:00 - [21] - Quote so when you guys say assaults, i take it you just mean the Ck.0 right? pretty sure the rest are all awesome and i only protod my cal assault because its looks by far the coolest thing in the game
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2159	Posted - 2015.01.18 09:50:00 - [22] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: so when you guys say assaults, i take it you just mean the Ck.0 right? pretty sure the rest are all awesome and i only protod my cal assault because its looks by far the coolest thing in the game The CK.0 is beastly man, that shield regen. Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 761	Posted - 2015.01.18 10:21:00 - [23] - Quote most logical bonus to give assaults is damage mod efficacy. but i can only imagine the amount of tears that would bring. LogicGäó
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 153	Posted - 2015.01.18 10:28:00 - [24] - Quote I think your idea funny Aztec, but I honestly don't see how we could play with that IG. Do you also mean aiming while running? Or just hip firing? I don't think the devs would implement this kind of feature anyway.. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Lahut K'mar Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2015.01.18 11:07:00 - [25] - Quote Ass salts have by far the most mod slots in the game. The idea behind them (I think) is to be versatile. So you have a specific dropsuit for any situation. Target is haunted by ghosts? Slap on some damage mods and armor plates. Target is a nest of sentinels? Shield up, profile down and get something long range. Large, open areas? DRUUUUUUGS! That one ass driver? Shields and speed are your friend. GOD DAMN FCKING MINJAS!(?) Range amplifier, precision enhancer and shotfun. Or just drag your amarr scout along. Assault is prepared for any battle and commando is prepared for the whole battle. Horrifying? That's a strange way to spell "romantic". FIX THE WHEEL, CCP!
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 179	Posted - 2015.01.18 11:48:00 - [26] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Atiim wrote: How about no. Honestly though, why would it be bad? It would be less detrimental then strafing is to the game. How about as soon as you start firing at them they go shooting up into the air, making it virtually impossible to kill them... Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1733	Posted - 2015.01.18 12:12:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Give them the ability to shoot while running. Not for fast suits, such as assault nor scouts. Maybe in future for some suit which suffers from low speed. Still doing double strong action is an immensely huge advantage and should really be thought over before implementing. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1355	Posted - 2015.01.18 12:19:00 - [28] - Quote Lahut K'mar wrote: Ass salts have by far the most mod slots in the game. The idea behind them (I think) is to be versatile. So you have a specific dropsuit for any situation. Target is haunted by ghosts? Slap on some damage mods and armor plates. Target is a nest of sentinels? Shield up, profile down and get something long range. Large, open areas? DRUUUUUUGS! That one ass driver? Shields and speed are your friend. GOD DAMN FCKING MINJAS!(?) Range amplifier, precision enhancer and shotfun. Or just drag your amarr scout along. Assault is prepared for any battle and commando is prepared for the whole battle. and how the **** are we supposed to change our suit for every enemy we fight????? One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 3142	Posted - 2015.01.18 12:30:00 - [29] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: most logical bonus to give assaults is damage mod efficacy. but i can only imagine the amount of tears that would bring. It would certainly make me unhappy based how terrible of a bonus that is. Even if it were 5% per level, you are talking about one Damage Mod giving 6.25% damage rather than 5% at level 5 Assault. If you are using 2, 11.95% rather than 9.56%. So if you are using 2 Complex Damage mods, you are getting less bonus damage than you would just for being a Commando with a single skill point (1.95% for Light Weapons versus 2% Rail/Blaster/Laser/Projectile-Explosives. Lets go even farther: 20% bonus per level. Well, crap, Commando is still better by .44% if you are using two Complex Damage mods when both are at level 5. There is also the little fact that the Commando bonus would leave you with two high slots, which would be quite unfair for the Caldari and to the lesser extent the Minmatar; "You don't get a bonus if you don't sacrifice your defense." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Lahut K'mar Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2015.01.18 12:31:00 - [30] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: and how the **** are we supposed to change our suit for every enemy we fight????? By not being a scrub. Horrifying? That's a strange way to spell "romantic". FIX THE WHEEL, CCP!

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 583	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:35:00 - [31] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Give them the ability to shoot while running. I would even take reload while running Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Union118 MONSTER SYNERGY 370	Posted - 2015.01.18 13:41:00 - [32] - Quote Spademan wrote: Assaults having jumpjets would be awesome. (And give scouts Mirrors Edge movement ) Matrix Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
jjoemike10 O'Conner 132	Posted - 2015.01.18 15:06:00 - [33] - Quote Why change the assaults? They are already in a good spot as it is, I mean the Min assault is arguably the best suit in the game and the other assaults aren't all that far behind.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2293	Posted - 2015.01.18 15:12:00 - [34] - Quote jjoemike10 O'Conner wrote: Why change the assaults? They are already in a good spot as it is, I mean the Min assault is arguably the best suit in the game and the other assaults aren't all that far behind. Well we don't really want a buff as much as we would like something to actually differentiate ourselves form "basic medium frames, but better"... I'd be more than willing to take a hit in another area if I could get access to jump jets. Home at Last <3
Amuf Oratok Dead Man's Game RUST415 61	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:18:00 - [35] - Quote Since assaults are supposed to fight together, why don't we give them AoE bonuses, aka auras?
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4377	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:29:00 - [36] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Just give assaults the bonuses to make rifles as good as they are now. Rifles otherwise would be nerfed in effectivness. Then to balance it, reduce module slots for less defense. Thus making an assault what it is supposed to be. That sounds more like a buff to heavies than anything and they're supposed to be point defense yet they're used for everything In the game.. Heavies push objectives, they use rifles, they lav hmg you. Assaults don't need a race oriented bonus they're supposed to be versatile. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4377	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:30:00 - [37] - Quote Amuf Oratok wrote: Since assaults are supposed to fight together, why don't we give them AoE bonuses, aka auras? I want to glow hot pink. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1145	Posted - 2015.01.18 17:30:00 - [38] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Amuf Oratok wrote: Since assaults are supposed to fight together, why don't we give them AoE bonuses, aka auras? I want to glow hot pink. Please this. Would take the focus off of us bumblebees. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5363	Posted - 2015.01.18 17:31:00 - [39] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Jump jets. /thread Hell. Yes. King of Commandos - And Dust's #1 best dressed merc. Destiny name - FireofPrometheus PSN- jcptmo8055


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