Why were they hated? Usually they're spoken of in reverent tones nowadays...

you guys weren't supposed to show up for that battle then you flipped the district, seriously. Hawkin told you guys not to show up and you have to flipped the district regardless. F*uck you guys

Look, I'm not going to spend the rest of my evening trying to dissuade people from their opinions about ML. But this **** about us not fielding our own teams is complete BS. Everybody uses ringers and it's only an issue when... honestly I'm not sure why certain people are okay to do it but others aren't.

PC style corp? So by definition there's like 7 corps and 200 players EVER who are/were PC style players and corps.

Are we in the same tier as OH? No, but our PC players don't consider themselves casual players and many of them wish we were more selective. But I try not to argue with Hawkin, I think he's done a pretty good job.

Shouldn't have flipped our district on New Year's when we no showed.

Hawkin told us to not show up? Hawkin does not run KEQ and sure as sh*t don't make decisions for us.

As far as I'm concerned it's over. Post some sh*t like this again and things might escalate.

Didn't know that happened over New Year's (if it is even true) because I was in Thailand with my wife. I hardly believe that Hawkin would direct us to take a district unless it was a trade or something like that, especially if it was an supposed to be a no show. When we stomp the hell out of a corp that we are attacking and we have a chance to take a district, Hawkin always tells us that we are not allowed to reattack it even though our corp members will be begging to. From the PC's I've seen in the last months since I joined ML, ML vs KEQ battles are, from what I have observed, almost (and may I stress almost) always Tso's VS RofL i.e. ML has Tso's ringers, KEQ has RofL ringers, with a few negligible exceptions both sides. When you guys took the district the other day when we were fighting all those ToP battles, I was truly surprised that you guys had because it's seemed that when we would fight each other, (I thought that) we did have some kind of gentleman's agreement that when either one of us attacks a district and wins that there will be no reattack/ said district will be taken. I never said that Hawkin ran KEQ, but I was under the impression that the aforementioned gentleman's agreement was in place. Guess that theres no honor amongst thieves, is there?

If we did take a district on New Year's, perhaps there was a lapse in communication between the two corps?! I have no idea. I wasn't at home at the time. I just find it strange that Random Gunz also took a district under the same circumstances (that we were under the impression that they were going to no show though they did and continued to attack it while we weren't fielding a team for whatever reason and took the district) and they are part of RofL. Curious.

Whoever was saying that when we do PCs that we field mostly ringers, is wrong and slanderous. The only time that this is not the case is when there are attacks on stacked timers and, when this situation or one similar does transpire, we will provide ringers because we don't have 32 ML guys online to field two battles at once .When that occurs, we'll pull ringers from Tso's with, once again, a few negligible exceptions.

To return to the original question, "Where they hated?". Before I joined ML and we would fight them, we would know that they would put up a good fight. I can tell you that a lot of guys in my old corp and others hated ML. Yet, other corps in the past were hated far more than ML ever was, in my opinion.

Thor, you realize people are giving you **** because YOU guys gave US **** first?

Or are you blind to all the **** ML and Tso has said about KEQ and ToP and R* using ringers?

And here you guys are relying on them every damn match when even ToP has mostly stopped using 'em.

That's why your reputation is going gutter side. The hypocrisy.

Starting to think we're fighting the wrong guys here.


Seems ML still has a big ******* mouth.

But I don't want the fights with ROFL to stop <3

STFU

You guys came with ringers the other day too when battles were stacked. This will be my last response to you troll, your contribution to Dust is a ******* anime channel so I think you can go elsewhere while the grown ups talk.

0 - 6 vs RGs

I wouldn't blame you.

Shouldn't have flipped our district on New Year's when we no showed.

Hawkin told us to not show up? Hawkin does not run KEQ and sure as sh*t don't make decisions for us.

As far as I'm concerned it's over. Post some sh*t like this again and things might escalate.

Blame me for what? Wanting to keep fighting them?

Yea, you know what? **** it. I'm coming for that ass.

I'll look forward to seeing how many ringers you'll need to pull your ass out of the fire.

lol, so you'll attack REALLY hard this time!!!

You get em you little dweeb. Go jerk off to some cartoons weirdo.

Keep it up Thor, you know I love it when people have a mental break down like this and give me a reason to stir trouble.

And go check the anime thread - notice how many ML posters there are? lmao @ insulting your own guys.

Thor, seriously, just shut the **** up. You obviously don't know what's going on and are just running your damn mouth.

Pot meet kettle

I've never hid what I am, Thor. I enjoy things in my own way, apologize when I go too far, and get aggressive when things get boring.

But you're just a two-faced prick whose idea of helping the game is destroying the competitiveness of it. You've never done half of what I have done for mechanics, discussions, and getting more people introduced to the game.

You're a joke Thor - Rampage has probably done more then you. Now sit down, look straight at the chalk board, and shut the **** up.


Thanks.

And remember this you asshat: I've never had anything bad to say about you or your corp till you opened your ******* mouth. I've always respected ML - but you're making damn sure ML's reputation is guttered. So let me help you like I've always wanted too in the past but never was able because of the side of the fences we've been on. Prick.

I always love this part of Sota threads. The part where after he ***** all over you, he takes offence like a poor little helpless victim and can't believe you'd have the nerve to bite the hand of the one who truly cares about you!

I've never hid what I am, Thor. I enjoy things in my own way, apologize when I go too far, and get aggressive when things get boring.

But you're just a two-faced prick whose idea of helping the game is destroying the competitiveness of it. You've never done half of what I have done for mechanics, discussions, and getting more people introduced to the game.

You're a joke Thor - Rampage has probably done more then you. Now sit down, look straight at the chalk board, and shut the **** up.


Thanks.

And remember this you asshat: I've never had anything bad to say about you or your corp till you opened your ******* mouth. I've always respected ML - but you're making damn sure ML's reputation is guttered. So let me help you like I've always wanted too in the past but never was able because of the side of the fences we've been on. Prick.

Some advice: When talking mechanics and discussions do it on an alt generally not related to PC - people see shadows everywhere. It's what I do, no one would take a thread made by this account completely seriously. But, they praise my alts for it's in depth knowledge of mechanics and numbers and how it's been applied to actual conditions and not just one found on spread sheets.

Who really gives a **** about this game anyways? The current community is stagnant **** water and that probably won't change unless something big were to happen. Sometimes it is just best to move on to something else and occasionally check on the molten heap of **** that is know as Molden Heath.

I hear you. It's very stupid to get fired up about this stuff.

I just don't think we deserve a lot of the BS we get on the forums.

You get em you little dweeb. Go jerk off to some cartoons weirdo.

As far as I'm concerned you are a bunch of lying fucks. I've been telling Hawkin we should consider you guys enemies.

Sometimes you just need to ignore it. People are just trying to rile things up because the game is so boring. Its obvious they are looking towards ML to bring up some interest/action to the game.

As far as I'm concerned you are a bunch of lying fucks. I've been telling Hawkin we should consider you guys enemies. But for whatever reason he and Roman continued to take you at face value.

Do you guys really tell people we use ringers for training matches and awox'd your comms?

If big ol bad KE fucklng Q comes knocking would THEY be able to field 16???? Now that's a question.

Sometimes you just need to ignore it. People are just trying to rile things up because the game is so boring. Its obvious they are looking towards ML to bring up some interest/action to the game.