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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1715
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Posted - 2015.01.16 12:20:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:
What im proposing is a reduction to speed while firing an HMG - similar to charging up a forge gun (as well as potentially for a short while after firing - like 0.5s) They can still sprint and move normally while not firing.
So your just making it easier for them to be open to SG abuse because that charge time wouldn't allow them to counter fire quick enough and this might lead to a HMG user overheating faster from leaning on the trigger because of knowing about the delay , this also makes them open to RE " scrubs " as you put it because most heavies face more then one opponent during conflicts .
This might work for those who travel in packs or squads but this idea will kill solo players who play that role .
Every answer to issues shouldn't be , " squad up " or " get gud ."
There are so many other things that I can think of but I'm not trying to take over your post .
I believe with the heating mechanic that's in place one has to constantly be reminded of overheating and that's fine because that causes one to depend more on their sidearm but delays added is kinda overkill .
Most of the complaints from this game are squad based not solo .
A lot of players play solo in-game .
For the most part and most of you know this , if you see packs of heavies ... their in a squad , see heavies and logi combos , their in a squad .
When I played solo logi ( I played all logi's maxed threw respec ) players would always run from me and it made no sense because I supplied the reps and ammo with needles , I also kept a scanner on me but because I was solo I died a lot even trying to keep up with the pack because I was a solo player they devalued me .
Like BW lets not implement another feature that will devalue the solo player and experience .
Edit : If you think about it for the most part , the response time for a counter from a heavy is extremely long in relation to say the decloak and fire animation , heavies are slow in everything they do .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1718
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Posted - 2015.01.16 16:38:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The proposal is making heavy movement speed slower while firing the gun the same way the forge gun slows the firer while charging.
Not barrel spin up. Reading comprehension.
Get some.
You know , you are a D1cK ... ADS with an HMG is far more effective then just spraying and praying and already while doing the NO-ONE can run or strafe , so to make the spray movement slower STILL leaves them open to be strafed and SG , NK and RE'd by scouts or any suit with speed like a logi with the same weapons and speed enhancement mods and short range weapons .
Having them slow down while just firing sounds like movement while in ADS and I use forges while charging is like moving while in ADS with a HMG .
You played the role before bright boy .?. then you should know better instead of being snide but I guess it's just in your nature .
You must be one of those people who believe that freedom of speech means , freedom to insult and ridicule ?
OP this was the thought process that I was trying to convey , the HMG is much more effective while in ADS having them to move slower while general firing is kinda overkill and leaves them more open to close encounters and they already have that disadvantage by being slow , blind , having the largest hit box and signature , not withstanding being far less effective solo without help by a logi or fellow heavies .
Can't balance a suit by a problem that your having in Dom where you already know the tactics that come into play by the opponent , that mode use to be a problem with vehicle spam and now they made changes to it to decrease that problem and like I said , that's a squad focal problem and not solo but your changes would effect the role in general and not just the mode that your having problems with or the solo player who will suffer the most .
Most of the people who post are anti-solo so I would expect nothing less , not saying that's you OP but it's the general mood of the forums when reading posts .
Most of the time the solo player isn't even considered .
Have a problem with squads then something must be done in that regard , something that doesn't handicap the role for everyone .
Just because they are already at a disadvantage doesn't give reason to just heap more trouble upon that role .
Like you said yourself , they already have to deal with multiple threats ( MD's , FG's , other HMG's , vehicles and so on ) and if you already see that there is some unbalance and it's disproportionate then why would you add to the negative weight ???
That won't lead to balance .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1718
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Posted - 2015.01.16 16:45:00 -
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There is just no way that a dedicated heavy can look at this post and not think " nerf " .
Look at the language .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 18:47:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:There is just no way that a dedicated heavy can look at this post and not think " nerf " . I hate to break it to you, but a nerf is coming. It is up to the dedicated Sentinel community to determine what that nerf will be, because if we don't come up with a viable proposal, then Rettati will have to come up with something on his own. Just go ask the ADS pilots what happen if you stick your head in the sand and pretend that there is nothing wrong. And for the Record, I play 1 hour solo every weekday morning before down time, while playing in squads whenever I can get on in the evening. I look at this from both a solo and squad perspective.
But did you understand my point ?
Or was I being dense ???
Edit : Was my belief too exaggerated or could you understand the concern and the intent ?
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 18:49:00 -
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You can't kill them because YOU are a scrub .
Now move on scrub .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 18:50:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:More QQ because Breakin called me on not bothering to read Please cry directly into the bucket. I'll take lessons from you in playing sentinel when hell freezes over you stinking newbie.
I promise you on the strength of the shining sun that I would eat you for breakfast one on one , I already KNOW that .
Edit : Better have your squad when you talk to me because I know you need it , so hop back in your scout and speed off .
You use Assault against me your dead .
You definitely use heavy and the same .
I'll kick rocks and dirt over your gray carcass .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 18:53:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You can't kill them because YOU are a scrub .
Now move on scrub . You keep talking. And nothing useful is heard. Ever. I run HMG sent without the aim assist handicap. what's YOUR excuse?
Don't have one and don't need it , like I said ... you better bring help when you address me bud .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 18:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
Doubt it. I wouldn't even bust out the good stuff. just kill you repeatedly in my pink dropsuits to rub salt into the wound.
I'll bend you over , open up a can of Quafe and shove it up your @$$ .
Kick rocks and dirt over your gray carcass .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.16 19:06:00 -
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Like I said , he NEEDS it .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1719
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Posted - 2015.01.17 04:38:00 -
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Op please read what I said before you use my words to misquote me .
I actually used some of what you already stated as examples .
If you would read what was written before you come to your conclusion and try to use my own words against me you would understand that your misquoting me and if you have a feasible point then you wouldn't need to do that .
Please don't follow fools , you were doing so good and you said that you wanted to have a discussion .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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