Stop listening to the forum community , they cry about every fracking thing .

Just use your numbers from your data driven base to configure the game accordingly .

All these " Swarms are OP " posts are just simply foolish and an attempt to nerf the swarms so that when the next tier of vehicles come , people will complain that vehicles are OP and need a nerf but how would they know .?. they don't even allow the game to transform under changes before they complain about something .

Unless it destroys the already fragile structure of the game , these things shouldn't even be considered .

ADS's with 50% ROF with stacked pilots destroyed the structure .

Massive influx of scouts that work better then assaults and logistics with no downside even with massive HP's in place , they still kept their innate speed and strafing , invisibility , detection capabilities and with a cloak that allowed them an extra advantage in their assault capabilities as well as RE's being used like and spammed as grenades , destroyed the structure .

Massive influx of heavies with an HMG that just blasted to no end until the changes ( that you have made ) incorporated , disrupted the structure .

Glitches of the terrain and RDV deployment along with the " Blue Lagoon Effect " when you can't check your mini map in a vehicle without falling into a null void if you drive up to a storage depot in a semi enclosed area , is destroying the structure .

Hit detection and lack of matchmaking is destroying the structure .

Swarm Launchers ???? Come on people , get a REAL cause to raise a banner to , you know ... one that actually would make sense and help the health of the game .

I wouldn't be mad at you CCP if you just ignored these cry babies and actually stand up and create boundaries and use data to fix your game because the community is what's killing this game but you act like you don't know .

Not everyone contributes to the plagues that ruin the experience but you find more post that are filled with garbage like trolling and claiming that something is OP so that YOU CCP , will fall for their attempt and their agenda to disrupt and diminish the already low numbers of your player base and just kill any effects that YOU CCP are trying to implement .

The things that they should complain about they don't and what gives them problems personally they stand on their soap boxes in protest .

It's a joke that's not even funny .

no TLDR anywhere?

Stop listening to the forum community , they cry about every fracking thing .

Just use your numbers from your data driven base to configure the game accordingly .

All these " Swarms are OP " posts are just simply foolish and an attempt to nerf the swarms so that when the next tier of vehicles come , people will complain that vehicles are OP and need a nerf but how would they know .?. they don't even allow the game to transform under changes before they complain about something .

Unless it destroys the already fragile structure of the game , these things shouldn't even be considered .

ADS's with 50% ROF with stacked pilots destroyed the structure .

Massive influx of scouts that work better then assaults and logistics with no downside even with massive HP's in place , they still kept their innate speed and strafing , invisibility , detection capabilities and with a cloak that allowed them an extra advantage in their assault capabilities as well as RE's being used like and spammed as grenades , destroyed the structure .

Massive influx of heavies with an HMG that just blasted to no end until the changes ( that you have made ) incorporated , disrupted the structure .

Glitches of the terrain and RDV deployment along with the " Blue Lagoon Effect " when you can't check your mini map in a vehicle without falling into a null void if you drive up to a storage depot in a semi enclosed area , is destroying the structure .

Hit detection and lack of matchmaking is destroying the structure .

Swarm Launchers ???? Come on people , get a REAL cause to raise a banner to , you know ... one that actually would make sense and help the health of the game .

I wouldn't be mad at you CCP if you just ignored these cry babies and actually stand up and create boundaries and use data to fix your game because the community is what's killing this game but you act like you don't know .

Not everyone contributes to the plagues that ruin the experience but you find more post that are filled with garbage like trolling and claiming that something is OP so that YOU CCP , will fall for their attempt and their agenda to disrupt and diminish the already low numbers of your player base and just kill any effects that YOU CCP are trying to implement .

The things that they should complain about they don't and what gives them problems personally they stand on their soap boxes in protest .

It's a joke that's not even funny .

Properly fitted gunnlogis will laugh at swarms

on one side of the fence there are vehicle users saying

problem: swarms are OP
what's really happening: rubbish tank fits
solution: stop running shitfits

on the other side of the fence we have swarm users saying

problem: swarms are up, this gunnlogi didn't even blink
what's really happening: 1 AV user thinks they should destroy a tank with 4000 shield and 2 shield hardeners negating almost all swarm damage and don't think they have to use tactics
solution: don't waste rounds on hardened tanks! don't think you can take down 5300 shield gunnlogi by yourself!

The huge issue here is that it's ALWAYS the terrible players complaining that they suck and they refuse to run more than one role and want things to be mega easy for them and are unwilling to adapt and use more than one suit/weapon. They will cry and cry until they have their easy mode.

TL;DR: GET GOOD!

Properly fitted gunnlogis will laugh at swarms

on one side of the fence there are vehicle users saying

problem: swarms are OP
what's really happening: rubbish tank fits
solution: stop running shitfits

on the other side of the fence we have swarm users saying

problem: swarms are up, this gunnlogi didn't even blink
what's really happening: 1 AV user thinks they should destroy a tank with 4000 shield and 2 shield hardeners negating almost all swarm damage and don't think they have to use tactics
solution: don't waste rounds on hardened tanks! don't think you can take down 5300 shield gunnlogi by yourself!

The huge issue here is that it's ALWAYS the terrible players complaining that they suck and they refuse to run more than one role and want things to be mega easy for them and are unwilling to adapt and use more than one suit/weapon. They will cry and cry until they have their easy mode.

TL;DR: GET GOOD!

"Properly fitted Gunnlogi"

One fit for one tank should not constitute "nah it's fine". We're supposed to be able to have diversity in fittings....

Properly fitted gunnlogis will laugh at swarms

on one side of the fence there are vehicle users saying

problem: swarms are OP
what's really happening: rubbish tank fits
solution: stop running shitfits

on the other side of the fence we have swarm users saying

problem: swarms are up, this gunnlogi didn't even blink
what's really happening: 1 AV user thinks they should destroy a tank with 4000 shield and 2 shield hardeners negating almost all swarm damage and don't think they have to use tactics
solution: don't waste rounds on hardened tanks! don't think you can take down 5300 shield gunnlogi by yourself!

The huge issue here is that it's ALWAYS the terrible players complaining that they suck and they refuse to run more than one role and want things to be mega easy for them and are unwilling to adapt and use more than one suit/weapon. They will cry and cry until they have their easy mode.

TL;DR: GET GOOD!

Are you a pilot?

It's like playing a heavy and seeing a scout with a PC , yes they have far less HP's then you do but one shot from that thing and your toast , so are you gonna just run right up and charge it ???
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i don't know a great deal about tanks i'm just calling it how i think i see it.

This is the worst comparison I have ever seen.

First of all I'm going to assume you mean Plasma Cannon (PLC). Which in that case is a dumb fire that can been seen traveling.

Secondly I run a Gal Sent. I'm not that fast. Now assuming you mean for the heavy to be equivalent to an HAV in this **** poor analogy you presented I will have to laugh. As almost any HAV could out run most infantry.

Thirdly, most Sentinels carry a side arm such as the bolt pistol or magsec SMG to help with pesky pests like the one in your analogy.

Fourthly, even though I am slow, I have been known to dodge PLC rounds by using a magical thing called COVER.

I could keep going on about how that was the worst analogy I have ever read but I feel a bit lazy at the moment.

One shot and done , that's my comparison and that's what most of these players are complaining about .

Are you NOT reading what they post ?

Their running into the situation totally wrong , so you can say what you will ... bottom line is that this is REALLY a NON-ISSUE that some have chosen to make and create as one and the next tier hasn't even come out yet , so what's to be expected when it does ???

See , this is another example of someone trying to desperately correct MY comparison , instead of correcting the problem of players exaggerating and destroying a role but I guess that's just not important , no let's just keep fracking up the health of this game , hell it's almost a ghost town as it is but I guess you people like to keep playing the same people every single match because it's been over TWO YEARS and this game still has no direction , foundation or it's act together .

All it has is it's ties to the New Eden universe , everything else it screwed up and it's a lot of the communities fault for that for misdirecting and misleading discussions and misinforming new players and the Dev's alike .

I guess that's o.k. though .

I guess a scout can't one shot a sentinel with a PC .

Maybe you scouts should troll Jonny today and show him .

I'm sure he will say that he doesn't play heavy like that matters .

I'm tired of people sabotaging roles for their own benefit while the game suffers for it .

In real life tank may be shooted down by 1 missle. A lot of problems because of "fast switching fits", u may complain and nerf everything, but if 2-3 dudes refits into the swarms/forges... u'll nerf them too?

Balancing in Dust far more complicate than the usual BF and etc. But sometime players don't get it - U nerf swarms and then Duna2002 will knock out the **** from u For 2 years we see that circle a few times.

And I think that with current "Scale" of battlefield there is no room for tanks and dropships, because for 2 years CCP can't balance them. PS2 far more balance because of "Larger scale", but PS2 is the story for another day

Properly fitted gunnlogis will laugh at swarms

on one side of the fence there are vehicle users saying

problem: swarms are OP
what's really happening: rubbish tank fits
solution: stop running shitfits

on the other side of the fence we have swarm users saying

problem: swarms are up, this gunnlogi didn't even blink
what's really happening: 1 AV user thinks they should destroy a tank with 4000 shield and 2 shield hardeners negating almost all swarm damage and don't think they have to use tactics
solution: don't waste rounds on hardened tanks! don't think you can take down 5300 shield gunnlogi by yourself!

The huge issue here is that it's ALWAYS the terrible players complaining that they suck and they refuse to run more than one role and want things to be mega easy for them and are unwilling to adapt and use more than one suit/weapon. They will cry and cry until they have their easy mode.

TL;DR: GET GOOD!

Everyone, stop providing feedback. CCP is clearly overflowing with wisdom and can do no wrong, just sit back and watch them revive the game that we so devilishly destroyed with our dastardly campqign.

Brilliant deduction, astounding.

This does severely limit the amount of effective vehicle fittings though, and makes vehicle gameplay rather shallow.

the forum is currently flooded by kids rage because they died to something.

pretty much everything is overpowered according to the forum, just saying.