DUST Search - Buying my 3rd PS3 for Dust - Opinions wanted

Supernus Gigas wrote:

Lac Nokomis wrote:

Ehhh, stuff like this is interesting to me. ;)

*I have used an SSD on all of these PS3's. Plus fresh downloads and all that.

But do you have Monster HDMI Cables? Because I think that's why you're having so many problems.

I recommend the Extreme Overload Fresh Roasted Ultimate Mega Atomic Lightning Diamond Platinum Alpha Dues Obliteratrix Cables.

Here are the specs;

24k Gold Plated Diamond Encrusted Superconducting Quantum Entanglement Connectors Forged by Hephaestus Himself.

Pure Plutonium-Cored Wires Glazed in the Mucus of an Enchanted Hagfish Wrapped in Eldritch Seaweed Coated with Copper Stripped from the Statue of Liberty and then Entwined with Strands of Platinum then Slid into a Sleeve Made of Pure Mithril and then Covered with a Final Sleeve Woven from the Hair of a Seraph.

Then Finally the Cable is Blessed by Perun and Imbued with the Power of Lightning and then Sent into the Core of the Earth to Age for Three and a Half Months While Being Worshipped by a Clan of Lava Monsters who Infuse the Cable with Vril Before Being Brought Back to the Surface and Soaked in the Blood of Christ and then Rinsed off with the Tears of the Cherokee.

They only cost $750,000, half of your own soul and a sacrificial Cookie-Cutter Shark.

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Lac Nokomis Palliative 36	Posted - 2015.01.14 18:11:00 - [1] - Quote This weekend I will be buying what I hope to be my last PS3. It will be for the sole purpose of playing dust. Which one is the best one to by? Which one runs dust best? Here's why I ask. I found myself reading a developer spotlight featuring CCP Patriot where he states: "All these elements increase the difficulty of production on the PS3. Eventually due to memory limitations that the hardware itself presents, we simply have to make some compromises.Now, that doesnGÇÖt mean that every console will perform the same either. Our game will run the best on the latest model of PS3, but we keep optimizing also for the older models that may still see some performance differences. No matter the console, though, we keep optimizing and testing on all of these machines equally in order to give our players the best New Eden FPS experience that we can on PS3. That probably is one of our constant challenges while working on DUST 514." My experiences with the PS3 I have purchased are as follows: Super slim: Worst overall performance. Constant hit-detection problems, constant frame-rate stutters, 900 HP's near instantly depleting. Death animation before # or health bars went to 0. PS3 Slim: I honestly hadn't spent much time with this one. Returned it due to the fans kicking into instant OMGIMHAWT mode literally every-time I entered a battle. PS3 Fat: LESS LAG WHEN FIGHTING 1v1s. Easily the best performance overall. This doesn't mean good. If I compare it to what I see in this video I would swear Yo is playing on a PC. Nowhere near that smooth with all those effects happening on screen. His game even seems to stutter when he first spawns then it irons itself out. I've always heard that the PS3 slim has the "best" processor, is this right? I've controlled all of the variables over the last month. Same model SSD used on all PS3's. Shown improvement. But not enough in how gameplay runs. Same internet. Same battle servers. Same TV with the same TV settings. So help me out here guys, before I just call it quits. My first experience with Dust was with Super slim, which was just plain awful. Which PS3 do you have and how is your gameplay compared to the video I referenced? If it's similar can you post your rig? Also, smart people: Not all PS3's are equal, right? Is there a certain model I should be looking for? A certain "batch" that acts as the sweet spot for Dust? I will give 100 million isk to someone who leads me to the right model. o7 tired thought: I was just playing a game where I was unloading my SMG into an amarr assault who was moving in the same direction as myself. My screen didn't have crosshairs and no lines indicating I was hitting him, as soon as I started engaging him. His life bars popped up above head for a split second about half way through and it showed less than half health before they disappeared. I ended up getting the +50 and his clone fell to the ground. With no way of me telling I was actually hitting him. This type of stuff happens constantly. Almost like the PS3 is having a hard time "processing" everything that's going on when I engage others. My internet speed is 28mbs down and 6.3mbs up.
Clone D 1346	Posted - 2015.01.14 18:25:00 - [2] - Quote I have owned 3 different PS3s and played Dust 514 on all of them. My first 60 GB PS3 (Model CECHCxx "Fat PS3") ran Dust the best of all. Better overall fps and gameplay experience. I hear that if you mount a SSD in one of those, then you get a visible performance difference. Mine eventually died, so I bought the next 2 models. Even without the SSD, it was a sweet system. I also own a slim and super slim with SSD. I continue to get uber laggy low fps performance with those two machines.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1742	Posted - 2015.01.14 18:31:00 - [3] - Quote Go with a PS3 fat. It's cheaper and you won't notice a performance difference. Buy a SSD if you are playing planetary conquest, since running in and getting links and that first hack are only important in PC. If not, don't. It makes no sense to load in before everyone else in a pub match. SSDs are getting cheaper everyday and the fat PS3s are pretty easy to get a hold of and normally a lot cheaper than the slim and superslim models. My PS3 works great, and I never have DC or lag problems that aren't universal to everyone at the time i.e. mass DCs. It's a fatty. Go Here and vote! 1 like is 1 vote!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2876	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:05:00 - [4] - Quote I have an old fatty -- bought about 6 months after the PS3 was launched if memory serves -- and I seem to get better framerates than most. FWIW, I have nothing on my PS3 other than Dust, it has an SSD, it runs on a wired connection, and I use a low-latency gaming monitor.
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1708	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:10:00 - [5] - Quote Running with a Slim myself and never had any real issues throughout the time I've been playing Dust, at least none that I could relate to the PS3... Seems it's already been said though, but if you can manage, get an SSD beforehand. The performance boost is massive and if it's just to play Dust, you don't have to even worry about losing your old data or transferring it over to the new drive. Also, you might need to go to a few AA meetings to get your addiction sorted out. I'm sure a few 12-step programs will help you ween yourself away from Dust. I want to punch.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:14:00 - [6] - Quote Clone D wrote: I have owned 3 different PS3s and played Dust 514 on all of them. My first 60 GB PS3 (Model CECHCxx "Fat PS3") ran Dust the best of all. Better overall fps and gameplay experience. I hear that if you mount a SSD in one of those, then you get a visible performance improvement. Mine eventually died, so I bought the next 2 models. Even without the SSD, it was a sweet system. I played it over a wireless connection and didn't experience any problems. I also own a slim and super slim with SSD. I continue to get uber laggy low fps performance with those two machines. These machines are on ethernet cable to improve network performance but I still get huge lag. One consideration concerning lag is that I experienced the best game play during the early period of Dust. Perhaps the CCP servers have fallen into a state of disrepair or can't handle the load or for whatever reason, lag has crept in more heavily in the time that has passed since then. In other words, perhaps the ps3 systems are not the problem. I don't know. Just offering that up as a possibility. Yeah there has to be something specific about these systems. What size PS3 Super Slim do you have? i know you have an ssd but what was the HDD size when you bought it?
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:15:00 - [7] - Quote Ehhh, stuff like this is interesting to me. ;) *I have used an SSD on all of these PS3's. Plus fresh downloads and all that.
Supernus Gigas The Cooked Goose Coalition 1101	Posted - 2015.01.14 20:20:00 - [8] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: Ehhh, stuff like this is interesting to me. ;) I have used an SSD on all of these PS3's. Plus fresh downloads and all that. But do you have Monster HDMI Cables? Because I think that's why you're having so many problems. I recommend the Extreme Overload Fresh Roasted Ultimate Mega Atomic Lightning Diamond Platinum Alpha Dues Obliteratrix Cables. Here are the specs; 24k Gold Plated Diamond Encrusted Superconducting Quantum Entanglement Connectors Forged by Hephaestus Himself. Pure Plutonium-Cored Wires Glazed in the Mucus of an Enchanted Hagfish Wrapped in Eldritch Seaweed Coated with Copper Stripped from the Statue of Liberty and then Entwined with Strands of Platinum then Slid into a Sleeve Made of Pure Mithril and then Covered with a Final Sleeve Woven from the Hair of a Seraph. Then Finally the Cable is Blessed by Perun and Imbued with the Power of Lightning and then Sent into the Core of the Earth to Age for Three and a Half Months While Being Worshipped by a Clan of Lava Monsters who Infuse the Cable with Vril Before Being Brought Back to the Surface and Soaked in the Blood of Christ and then Rinsed off with the Tears of the Cherokee. They only cost $750,000, half of your own soul and a sacrificial Cookie-Cutter Shark. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 509	Posted - 2015.01.14 21:06:00 - [9] - Quote I currently own a ps3 slim and so far she hasnt failed me on Dust nor on MAG. Rip MAG Jan 28, 2014. Anyway in my opinion I woukd say the Slim is better to go. Its quite, barely makes any noise unless you play it none stop then you may want to clean it twice a month becuase the Dust that builds on its fans. Makes it heat a bit and Noise as well. Plus its alot cheaper now. Ive never owned the Fat Ps3 nor the Super slim. Hopw it helps (: MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Grobda Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 3	Posted - 2015.01.14 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote ive got a fat and a super slim and never noticed any difference in play apart from the noisy fans on the fat. from what ive read the only difference in the chipset once they took hardware ps2 emulation out was moving to a smaller manufaturing process

Mex-0 304	Posted - 2015.01.14 22:43:00 - [11] - Quote I have a PS3 from 2008ish, and overall, not bad. Not good, but not bad either. 1v1 battles don't lag that much, if I have them. (I'm a scout) What I did was set up my PS3 next to my router, and other than a couple crashes due to overheating, (5 hours of Dust lol) My PS3 works decent. PS: "Isk offered?" count me in! Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 770	Posted - 2015.01.15 02:28:00 - [12] - Quote You sir went full tard for buying a PS3 just for dust. Man put some extra cash on top and you get a PS4. Geez some people have nerves or are just plain stupid. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 125	Posted - 2015.01.15 02:47:00 - [13] - Quote At the end of the day, the slim does just fine. SSD - Why put it in? As one person stated, you do get decreased loading times in all your games. The REAL benefit Reduced heat on the system! This alone will extend the life of your PS3 and provide a much more enjoyable experience regardless of the game. I rarely have my fan kick up to high speed even with BF4 screaming. A nice 128GB SSD with built in TRIM runs about $80. Just gotta look around.
Clone D 1353	Posted - 2015.01.15 02:54:00 - [14] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: Yeah there has to be something specific about these systems. What size PS3 Super Slim do you have? i know you have an ssd but what was the HDD size when you bought it? I bought the 12 GB super slim since I planned on upgrading the hard drive.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 686	Posted - 2015.01.15 03:04:00 - [15] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: super epically creative post of ultimate awesome 11/10 love the Vril reference! AKA - StarVenger
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 688	Posted - 2015.01.15 03:11:00 - [16] - Quote I had an issue with system overheat on my slim. I had my ps3 on a shelf in the tv stand. It wasn't getting proper ventilation; only recycled its own already hot air. I moved it out and put it on a wire rack so its off the floor and can get air from all sides. Problem solved. AKA - StarVenger
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1089	Posted - 2015.01.15 04:05:00 - [17] - Quote I run on a slim, it's decent, but the fat boy is most definitely the best ps3 model overall for just about anything. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.15 05:47:00 - [18] - Quote Clone D wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: Yeah there has to be something specific about these systems. What size PS3 Super Slim do you have? i know you have an ssd but what was the HDD size when you bought it? I bought the 12 GB super slim since I planned on upgrading the hard drive. I did the same exact thing. And it was ****. I'm going to try the 500gb super slim over the weekend and try it. I'll report back in this thread with the results. Of note when you insert the SSD into the 12gb super slim it recognizes it instantly and can use it for the system without updating it like you have too with the other model ps3's. I wonder if the Flash memory capabilities mess with the system's ability to run dust. Damn I wish I knew a game developer/not completely tech clueless person like myself.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1746	Posted - 2015.01.15 05:56:00 - [19] - Quote Found that my PS3 Fat ran hotter than my current PS3 Slim. And found out too late (ugh). I've experienced latency and framerate issues from time to time, but I don't think it safe to blame the hardware (as the problems aren't consistent).
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1743	Posted - 2015.01.15 06:05:00 - [20] - Quote Spoiler Alert: There is no ISK. Go Here and vote! 1 like is 1 vote!

Ender the Xenocide Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.01.15 06:05:00 - [21] - Quote Do not get a first gen, and immediately switch out the hard drive for an SSD. Thats my advice
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.15 07:07:00 - [22] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Spoiler Alert: There is no ISK. There is. If the 500gb PS3 super slim performs better, I will empty my wallet evenly towards everyone who pointed me in the right direction. Really looking for people to tell me what system they run and how it compares to the video I linked above. Unless your talking about for yourself. Because yes. No isk for you.
Clone D 1359	Posted - 2015.01.15 17:14:00 - [23] - Quote If you're just buying a ps3 for the sole purpose of playing Dust, as stated in the OP, then the 12GB model should be adequate space. I wouldn't see a need to upgrade to the 500GB. Just look at the size of your game install size and data size in the XMB. For instance, my Dust installation uses 2764 MB and ~1 MB for game data. Here's an article that compares the flash storage to an HDD: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-playstation-3-12gb-super-slim-review
Nomed Deeps 433	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:14:00 - [24] - Quote I've only played DUST on my A series (which I've had Sony repair twice since release). I've had little problems in DUST with it beyond the common. I honestly believe the A series was built with the best materials (at the time) and then Sony found cheaper and cheaper ways to build PS3s from then on, especially due to extended PSN outage from hacks and other turmoil they've had to endure since PS3's release. I cannot be bought, but I can be leased.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1204	Posted - 2015.01.15 18:29:00 - [25] - Quote I never had too much toruble on a friends 12gb super slim, but then they have flash memory so pretty much a SSD which if you believe the rumours are what 'the elite' guys have. i was tempted to pickup a cheap pre-owned 12gb to have it solely for dust. Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Lac Nokomis Palliative 38	Posted - 2015.01.16 03:02:00 - [26] - Quote Nomed Deeps wrote: I've only played DUST on my A series (which I've had Sony repair twice since release). I've had little problems in DUST with it beyond the common. I honestly believe the A series was built with the best materials (at the time) and then Sony found cheaper and cheaper ways to build PS3s from then on, especially due to extended PSN outage from hacks and other turmoil they've had to endure since PS3's release. Which is the A series? Do you have a link maybe? Can't find em. :P
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1534	Posted - 2015.01.16 03:06:00 - [27] - Quote Get a 60gig. Pay the dough to get it reballed Crush them
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1634	Posted - 2015.01.16 04:40:00 - [28] - Quote Ive got a PS3 Fat and PS3 Slim. Both run at very similar speeds, the Slim marginally slower as it also has GTA V, GT5, GT6 and Destiny installed, plus huge amounts of music/movies/pictures, whereas the tubby-belly one has Dust installed and thats it. So id say the 120GB Slim. "Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?" HRI -> TUL -> FC -> ML -> TLoD -> RE -> DMG Pilot & Assault.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 40	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:02:00 - [29] - Quote Thanks all for your input. I've collected alot of data from a total of 6 different PS3 models and have resolved the issue completely. Thinking about doing a write up on it. Isk payouts will be dealt as follows. Expect payments by mid week (Gotta run off to work for a few days :/) Clone D - 10 Million isk Crimson Shield - 10 Million isk JIMvc2 - 10 Million isk RemingtonBeaver - 69 isk Nomed Deeps - 10 million isk Denchlad 7 - 10 Million isk
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 519	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:16:00 - [30] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: Thanks all for your input. I've collected alot of data from a total of 6 different PS3 models and have resolved the issue completely. Thinking about doing a write up on it. Isk payouts will be dealt as follows. Expect payments by mid week (Gotta run off to work for a few days :/) Clone D - 10 Million isk Crimson Shield - 10 Million isk JIMvc2 - 10 Million isk RemingtonBeaver - 69 isk Nomed Deeps - 10 million isk Denchlad 7 - 10 Million isk No problem. I like to help mercs who have issues either with the game or the ps3. I can wait so take your time :) Have a nice day. :) MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.

Funkmaster Whale Whale Pod 2738	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:21:00 - [31] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: Ehhh, stuff like this is interesting to me. ;) *I have used an SSD on all of these PS3's. Plus fresh downloads and all that. But do you have Monster HDMI Cables? Because I think that's why you're having so many problems. I recommend the Extreme Overload Fresh Roasted Ultimate Mega Atomic Lightning Diamond Platinum Alpha Dues Obliteratrix Cables. Here are the specs; 24k Gold Plated Diamond Encrusted Superconducting Quantum Entanglement Connectors Forged by Hephaestus Himself. Pure Plutonium-Cored Wires Glazed in the Mucus of an Enchanted Hagfish Wrapped in Eldritch Seaweed Coated with Copper Stripped from the Statue of Liberty and then Entwined with Strands of Platinum then Slid into a Sleeve Made of Pure Mithril and then Covered with a Final Sleeve Woven from the Hair of a Seraph. Then Finally the Cable is Blessed by Perun and Imbued with the Power of Lightning and then Sent into the Core of the Earth to Age for Three and a Half Months While Being Worshipped by a Clan of Lava Monsters who Infuse the Cable with Vril Before Being Brought Back to the Surface and Soaked in the Blood of Christ and then Rinsed off with the Tears of the Cherokee. They only cost $750,000, half of your own soul and a sacrificial Cookie-Cutter Shark. True champions use copper wires molded from retired coathangers as their cables. Follow me on Twitch.tv!
Clone D 1381	Posted - 2015.01.18 23:24:00 - [32] - Quote Lac Nokomis wrote: Thanks all for your input. I've collected alot of data from a total of 6 different PS3 models and have resolved the issue completely. Thinking about doing a write up on it. Isk payouts will be dealt as follows. Expect payments by mid week (Gotta run off to work for a few days :/) Clone D - 10 Million isk Crimson Shield - 10 Million isk JIMvc2 - 10 Million isk RemingtonBeaver - 69 isk Nomed Deeps - 10 million isk Denchlad 7 - 10 Million isk Thanks, Lac Nokomis! I hope you get the performance levels that you're after, my friend!
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 310	Posted - 2015.01.20 00:03:00 - [33] - Quote Clone D wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: Thanks all for your input. I've collected alot of data from a total of 6 different PS3 models and have resolved the issue completely. Thinking about doing a write up on it. Isk payouts will be dealt as follows. Expect payments by mid week (Gotta run off to work for a few days :/) Clone D - 10 Million isk Crimson Shield - 10 Million isk JIMvc2 - 10 Million isk RemingtonBeaver - 69 isk Nomed Deeps - 10 million isk Denchlad 7 - 10 Million isk Thanks, Lac Nokomis! I hope you get the performance levels that you're after, my friend! And I'm not on that list... Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ How do ya like my knives on my minassault? Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
Lac Nokomis Palliative 45	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:10:00 - [34] - Quote Sorry about the wait guys. Flu season is still in full swing so i've been working alot. ;) Isk is out. Lemme know if you didn't get the mail. Remington, 69 isn't a valid number according to CCP. Luckily for you, 50,000 is. Trying being helpful next time. o7
Kuruld Sengar Y.A.M.A.H 174	Posted - 2015.01.26 16:17:00 - [35] - Quote I am using the fat ps3. Not the one with the sd card slots, but the next version. In it I have a samsung EVO 250 gig SSD, since adding the SSD, I have had no lag except when my internet cuts out occasionally. The one exception is on the meat grinder I will get minor stuttering like that video a few times a match (usually lasts about 10 seconds).
Lac Nokomis Palliative 45	Posted - 2015.01.26 16:24:00 - [36] - Quote Does anyone use the PS3 super slim NOT 12gb model? I think they come in 250 and 500GB models... My suspicion is the flash memory built into the Super slim 12GB model seriously fucks with the PS3's performance. Super horrible with the 12GB But I haven't been able to run dust on a new Super slim. If Im right then the newest model PS3 super slim should run close to the CECH 2 model regular slim. Hoping to get a tag on this thread addressing this, since I have noted massive differences gravely affecting ability to compete in games.


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