DUST Search - Buying my 3rd PS3 for Dust - Opinions wanted

Clone D wrote:

I have owned 3 different PS3s and played Dust 514 on all of them.

My first 60 GB PS3 (Model CECHCxx "Fat PS3") ran Dust the best of all. Better overall fps and gameplay experience. I hear that if you mount a SSD in one of those, then you get a visible performance improvement. Mine eventually died, so I bought the next 2 models. Even without the SSD, it was a sweet system. I played it over a wireless connection and didn't experience any problems.

I also own a slim and super slim with SSD. I continue to get uber laggy low fps performance with those two machines. These machines are on ethernet cable to improve network performance but I still get huge lag.

One consideration concerning lag is that I experienced the best game play during the early period of Dust. Perhaps the CCP servers have fallen into a state of disrepair or can't handle the load or for whatever reason, lag has crept in more heavily in the time that has passed since then. In other words, perhaps the ps3 systems are not the problem. I don't know. Just offering that up as a possibility.


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Lac Nokomis Palliative 36	Posted - 2015.01.14 18:11:00 - [1] - Quote This weekend I will be buying what I hope to be my last PS3. It will be for the sole purpose of playing dust. Which one is the best one to by? Which one runs dust best? Here's why I ask. I found myself reading a developer spotlight featuring CCP Patriot where he states: "All these elements increase the difficulty of production on the PS3. Eventually due to memory limitations that the hardware itself presents, we simply have to make some compromises.Now, that doesnGÇÖt mean that every console will perform the same either. Our game will run the best on the latest model of PS3, but we keep optimizing also for the older models that may still see some performance differences. No matter the console, though, we keep optimizing and testing on all of these machines equally in order to give our players the best New Eden FPS experience that we can on PS3. That probably is one of our constant challenges while working on DUST 514." My experiences with the PS3 I have purchased are as follows: Super slim: Worst overall performance. Constant hit-detection problems, constant frame-rate stutters, 900 HP's near instantly depleting. Death animation before # or health bars went to 0. PS3 Slim: I honestly hadn't spent much time with this one. Returned it due to the fans kicking into instant OMGIMHAWT mode literally every-time I entered a battle. PS3 Fat: LESS LAG WHEN FIGHTING 1v1s. Easily the best performance overall. This doesn't mean good. If I compare it to what I see in this video I would swear Yo is playing on a PC. Nowhere near that smooth with all those effects happening on screen. His game even seems to stutter when he first spawns then it irons itself out. I've always heard that the PS3 slim has the "best" processor, is this right? I've controlled all of the variables over the last month. Same model SSD used on all PS3's. Shown improvement. But not enough in how gameplay runs. Same internet. Same battle servers. Same TV with the same TV settings. So help me out here guys, before I just call it quits. My first experience with Dust was with Super slim, which was just plain awful. Which PS3 do you have and how is your gameplay compared to the video I referenced? If it's similar can you post your rig? Also, smart people: Not all PS3's are equal, right? Is there a certain model I should be looking for? A certain "batch" that acts as the sweet spot for Dust? I will give 100 million isk to someone who leads me to the right model. o7 tired thought: I was just playing a game where I was unloading my SMG into an amarr assault who was moving in the same direction as myself. My screen didn't have crosshairs and no lines indicating I was hitting him, as soon as I started engaging him. His life bars popped up above head for a split second about half way through and it showed less than half health before they disappeared. I ended up getting the +50 and his clone fell to the ground. With no way of me telling I was actually hitting him. This type of stuff happens constantly. Almost like the PS3 is having a hard time "processing" everything that's going on when I engage others. My internet speed is 28mbs down and 6.3mbs up.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:14:00 - [2] - Quote Clone D wrote: I have owned 3 different PS3s and played Dust 514 on all of them. My first 60 GB PS3 (Model CECHCxx "Fat PS3") ran Dust the best of all. Better overall fps and gameplay experience. I hear that if you mount a SSD in one of those, then you get a visible performance improvement. Mine eventually died, so I bought the next 2 models. Even without the SSD, it was a sweet system. I played it over a wireless connection and didn't experience any problems. I also own a slim and super slim with SSD. I continue to get uber laggy low fps performance with those two machines. These machines are on ethernet cable to improve network performance but I still get huge lag. One consideration concerning lag is that I experienced the best game play during the early period of Dust. Perhaps the CCP servers have fallen into a state of disrepair or can't handle the load or for whatever reason, lag has crept in more heavily in the time that has passed since then. In other words, perhaps the ps3 systems are not the problem. I don't know. Just offering that up as a possibility. Yeah there has to be something specific about these systems. What size PS3 Super Slim do you have? i know you have an ssd but what was the HDD size when you bought it?
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.14 19:15:00 - [3] - Quote Ehhh, stuff like this is interesting to me. ;) *I have used an SSD on all of these PS3's. Plus fresh downloads and all that.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.15 05:47:00 - [4] - Quote Clone D wrote: Lac Nokomis wrote: Yeah there has to be something specific about these systems. What size PS3 Super Slim do you have? i know you have an ssd but what was the HDD size when you bought it? I bought the 12 GB super slim since I planned on upgrading the hard drive. I did the same exact thing. And it was ****. I'm going to try the 500gb super slim over the weekend and try it. I'll report back in this thread with the results. Of note when you insert the SSD into the 12gb super slim it recognizes it instantly and can use it for the system without updating it like you have too with the other model ps3's. I wonder if the Flash memory capabilities mess with the system's ability to run dust. Damn I wish I knew a game developer/not completely tech clueless person like myself.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 37	Posted - 2015.01.15 07:07:00 - [5] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Spoiler Alert: There is no ISK. There is. If the 500gb PS3 super slim performs better, I will empty my wallet evenly towards everyone who pointed me in the right direction. Really looking for people to tell me what system they run and how it compares to the video I linked above. Unless your talking about for yourself. Because yes. No isk for you.
Lac Nokomis Palliative 38	Posted - 2015.01.16 03:02:00 - [6] - Quote Nomed Deeps wrote: I've only played DUST on my A series (which I've had Sony repair twice since release). I've had little problems in DUST with it beyond the common. I honestly believe the A series was built with the best materials (at the time) and then Sony found cheaper and cheaper ways to build PS3s from then on, especially due to extended PSN outage from hacks and other turmoil they've had to endure since PS3's release. Which is the A series? Do you have a link maybe? Can't find em. :P
Lac Nokomis Palliative 40	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:02:00 - [7] - Quote Thanks all for your input. I've collected alot of data from a total of 6 different PS3 models and have resolved the issue completely. Thinking about doing a write up on it. Isk payouts will be dealt as follows. Expect payments by mid week (Gotta run off to work for a few days :/) Clone D - 10 Million isk Crimson Shield - 10 Million isk JIMvc2 - 10 Million isk RemingtonBeaver - 69 isk Nomed Deeps - 10 million isk Denchlad 7 - 10 Million isk
Lac Nokomis Palliative 45	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:10:00 - [8] - Quote Sorry about the wait guys. Flu season is still in full swing so i've been working alot. ;) Isk is out. Lemme know if you didn't get the mail. Remington, 69 isn't a valid number according to CCP. Luckily for you, 50,000 is. Trying being helpful next time. o7
Lac Nokomis Palliative 45	Posted - 2015.01.26 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote Does anyone use the PS3 super slim NOT 12gb model? I think they come in 250 and 500GB models... My suspicion is the flash memory built into the Super slim 12GB model seriously fucks with the PS3's performance. Super horrible with the 12GB But I haven't been able to run dust on a new Super slim. If Im right then the newest model PS3 super slim should run close to the CECH 2 model regular slim. Hoping to get a tag on this thread addressing this, since I have noted massive differences gravely affecting ability to compete in games.