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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 04:47:00 -
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Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 04:55:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think
It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health.
With every shot landing.
To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk.
Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have.
You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone?
Oh yea... CoD...
GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games...
Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:10:00 -
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^only retards assume ScRs and TacARs actually fire at 600 RPM, bruh.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:12:00 -
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There is just so much wrong with assuming a ScR will kill a heavy in 3 seconds.
1.) RoF isn't actually 600. 2.) Heavy HP is usually armor based. 3.) The Rifle overheats after about 1200 damage.
Try 10 seconds.
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:14:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... lets not forget the militia assault rail rifle with a 0.01 charge time, i never want to use any other. The scrambler rifle ive always liked and hated because its really 2 weapons, you have a charge sniper rifle which can be used in any situation at a quicker charge time, and a pre nerf TAC AR which also fks people at any range, but back to killing 1800hp heavy in 3 seconds with MLT scr, how? the first shot does like 500 damage charged? then you can fire like 5 shots more before over heating (assuming you dont use the amarr assault) and dont use a custom controller, I dont remember how much damage a charged SCR does on headshot so if someone could tell me thatd be nice |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:16:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... lets not forget the militia assault rail rifle with a 0.01 charge time, i never want to use any other the scrambler rifle ive always liked, and hated, because its really 2 weapons, you have a charge sniper rifle which can be used in any situation at a quicker charge time, and a pre nerf TAC AR which also fks people at any range, but back to killing 1800hp heavy in 3 seconds with MLT scr, how? the first shot does like 500 damage charged? then you can fire like 5 shots more before over heating (assuming you dont use the amarr assault) and dont use a custom controller, I dont remember how much damage a charged SCR does on headshot so if someone could tell me thatd be nice Assuming its a MLT ScR without damage mods, a charged headshot will do about 370 damage.
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:18:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... lets not forget the militia assault rail rifle with a 0.01 charge time, i never want to use any other the scrambler rifle ive always liked, and hated, because its really 2 weapons, you have a charge sniper rifle which can be used in any situation at a quicker charge time, and a pre nerf TAC AR which also fks people at any range, but back to killing 1800hp heavy in 3 seconds with MLT scr, how? the first shot does like 500 damage charged? then you can fire like 5 shots more before over heating (assuming you dont use the amarr assault) and dont use a custom controller, I dont remember how much damage a charged SCR does on headshot so if someone could tell me thatd be nice Assuming its a MLT ScR without damage mods, a charged headshot will do about 370 damage. you sure? im pretty sure I can do 400+ without dmg mods or a headshot so long as its charged I know ive 1 hit proto logis/assaults with a charged head shot from standard SCR |
demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:19:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... lets not forget the militia assault rail rifle with a 0.01 charge time, i never want to use any other the scrambler rifle ive always liked, and hated, because its really 2 weapons, you have a charge sniper rifle which can be used in any situation at a quicker charge time, and a pre nerf TAC AR which also fks people at any range, but back to killing 1800hp heavy in 3 seconds with MLT scr, how? the first shot does like 500 damage charged? then you can fire like 5 shots more before over heating (assuming you dont use the amarr assault) and dont use a custom controller, I dont remember how much damage a charged SCR does on headshot so if someone could tell me thatd be nice Assuming its a MLT ScR without damage mods, a charged headshot will do about 370 damage. you sure? im pretty sure I can do 400+ without dmg mods or a headshot so long as its charged I know ive 1 hit proto logis/assaults with a charged head shot from standard SCR If it just showed full charge dmg in stats for weapons like that it would be nice |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
2189
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:20:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... lets not forget the militia assault rail rifle with a 0.01 charge time, i never want to use any other the scrambler rifle ive always liked, and hated, because its really 2 weapons, you have a charge sniper rifle which can be used in any situation at a quicker charge time, and a pre nerf TAC AR which also fks people at any range, but back to killing 1800hp heavy in 3 seconds with MLT scr, how? the first shot does like 500 damage charged? then you can fire like 5 shots more before over heating (assuming you dont use the amarr assault) and dont use a custom controller, I dont remember how much damage a charged SCR does on headshot so if someone could tell me thatd be nice Assuming its a MLT ScR without damage mods, a charged headshot will do about 370 damage. you sure? im pretty sure I can do 400+ without dmg mods or a headshot so long as its charged I know ive 1 hit proto logis/assaults with a charged head shot from standard SCR The number I got was 369.6875.
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:22:00 -
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Nah that definitely sounds like a regular charged shot, a charged headshot will almost 1 hit everything but a heavy |
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:26:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Nah that definitely sounds like a regular charged shot, a charged headshot will almost 1 hit everything but a heavy Nope.
Charged multiplier is about 325%. (We don't know the exact number, but its about that.)
65 x 3.25 = 211.25
Headshot multiplier is 175%.
211.25 x 1.75 = 369.6875
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:30:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Nah that definitely sounds like a regular charged shot, a charged headshot will almost 1 hit everything but a heavy Nope. Charged multiplier is about 325%. (We don't know the exact number, but its about that.) 65 x 3.25 = 211.25 Headshot multiplier is 175%. 211.25 x 1.75 = 369.6875 I'll test this out in some games but im sure even a std scr will 1 hit some proto assaults and logis if theyre not max tanked I'll also test out some viziam scr with 3x dmg mods |
man- bear pig
D3ATH CARD RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:32:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Nah that definitely sounds like a regular charged shot, a charged headshot will almost 1 hit everything but a heavy Nope. Charged multiplier is about 325%. (We don't know the exact number, but its about that.) 65 x 3.25 = 211.25 Headshot multiplier is 175%. 211.25 x 1.75 = 369.6875
Don't forget the +20/-20 on it.
EDIT: Proficiency increases shield damage as well. Which is the only way you'll drop a PRO Medium suit with one shot. Cal or Min with no armor plates WILL drop. Hell, an ankle shot should drop them if your fitted right. |
JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:41:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc...
No **** of course the Plasma cannon has to one hit kill a proto heavy. It does 1300 at standard n00b.
You think a heavy or anyother dropsuit should survive a projectile from the Plasma cannon, NO.
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:48:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... No **** of course the Plasma cannon has to one hit kill a proto heavy. It does 1300 at standard n00b. You think a heavy or anyother dropsuit should survive a projectile from the Plasma cannon, NO. from a 1500 isk weapon, yes because risk doesnt really mean reward in this game |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 05:53:00 -
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This thread is just stupid. There is so much misinformation.
Standard Plasma Cannons do 1100 Damage. Not 1300.
I'm getting tired of correcting everyone, so could you all just do me a favor and actually know about the things you're all talking about before you all start throwing numbers around?
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 06:07:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:This thread is just stupid. There is so much misinformation.
Standard Plasma Cannons do 1100 Damage. Not 1300.
I'm getting tired of correcting everyone, so could you all just do me a favor and actually know about the things you're all talking about before you all start throwing numbers around? Just had a game with the SCR and was doing 400ish per charge* 1 hitting ADV and under suits with around 700hp almost 1 hit a gallente basic heavy with a headshot |
JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
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Posted - 2015.01.14 06:36:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:This thread is just stupid. There is so much misinformation.
Standard Plasma Cannons do 1100 Damage. Not 1300.
I'm getting tired of correcting everyone, so could you all just do me a favor and actually know about the things you're all talking about before you all start throwing numbers around? Just because I was off by 200 and yet you flip out. Wow talk about getting pissed off xD
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JIMvc2
The Wanga Empire Strikes Back
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Posted - 2015.01.14 06:40:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... No **** of course the Plasma cannon has to one hit kill a proto heavy. It does 1300 at standard n00b. You think a heavy or anyother dropsuit should survive a projectile from the Plasma cannon, NO. from a 1500 isk weapon, yes because risk doesnt really mean reward in this game
Excuse me then. If you think a proto suit should survive damage from the Plasma Cannon then you dont know the formula of how Dust works.
Who cares if you have the best dropsuit with all complex crap on it. You can die from militia weapons. Sadly what most if not all proto players miss is that you have to use your brain of how to use the dropsuit.
Its not about having the best weapon, dropsuit, tank ect... it only matters of how you use it. If you dont know how to treat your dropsuit then you wont survive 1 vs 1 gun fights which results of why spawning with that dropsuit in the first place.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 06:43:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... No **** of course the Plasma cannon has to one hit kill a proto heavy. It does 1300 at standard n00b. You think a heavy or anyother dropsuit should survive a projectile from the Plasma cannon, NO. from a 1500 isk weapon, yes because risk doesnt really mean reward in this game Excuse me then. If you think a proto suit should survive damage from the Plasma Cannon then you dont know the formula of how Dust works. Who cares if you have the best dropsuit with all complex crap on it. You can die from militia weapons. Sadly what most if not all proto players miss is that you have to use your brain of how to use the dropsuit. Its not about having the best weapon, dropsuit, tank ect... it only matters of how you use it. If you dont know how to treat your dropsuit then you wont survive 1 vs 1 gun fights which results of why spawning with that dropsuit in the first place. I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2015.01.14 06:57:00 -
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The TTK used to be so much shorter. Ah the days of Cal Logis, with their built in 1 second Armor reps with GEKs mowing you down.
After while the community got tired of it. If you were seen, you were pretty much good as dead.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:02:00 -
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Michael I cant see your post since youve trolled quite a bit so I blocked you. On your way now |
man- bear pig
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:13:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:
I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
Really? You are aware it's a 1 round clip, it's hard to aim with, and it has a charge up right? Hitting anything less then an LAV takes skill, so yea they can 1 shot a heavy all they want. It really sounds like you've either ****** up your skill tree so bad you can't use anything, or you just classed into the FOTM and now you're pissed because you can't play with it.
Know why the SCR is so deadly? because we have trained and committed to it. Know why Plasma cannon wielders are so accurate with an AV weapon? Because they trained with it. This game takes dedication and time, just because you made it to proto doesn't mean ****. I can run proto, but I still mainly run STD gear and I **** **** up. Start getting better, or move to a different game. |
demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:20:00 -
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man- bear pig wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:
I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
Really? You are aware it's a 1 round clip, it's hard to aim with, and it has a charge up right? Hitting anything less then an LAV takes skill, so yea they can 1 shot a heavy all they want. It really sounds like you've either ****** up your skill tree so bad you can't use anything, or you just classed into the FOTM and now you're pissed because you can't play with it. Know why the SCR is so deadly? because we have trained and committed to it. Know why Plasma cannon wielders are so accurate with an AV weapon? Because they trained with it. This game takes dedication and time, just because you made it to proto doesn't mean ****. I can run proto, but I still mainly run STD gear and I **** **** up. Start getting better, or move to a different game. plasma canon is in no way a weapon that requires skill, run past jump and fire down and usually get a kill or finish with sidearm, also fun for sniping unsuspecting campers, also the charge time is virtually non existant, SCR is deadly because its a TAC ar strapped to a charge sniper rifle, this isnt aliens, if it is I want my pulse rifle
also im gonna say ive put a lot more time into the game than most people seeing as I literally spent 16 months sitting in my room playing nothing but dust 16-20 hours a day, im pretty dedicated to this game
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man- bear pig
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:33:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:man- bear pig wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:
I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
Really? You are aware it's a 1 round clip, it's hard to aim with, and it has a charge up right? Hitting anything less then an LAV takes skill, so yea they can 1 shot a heavy all they want. It really sounds like you've either ****** up your skill tree so bad you can't use anything, or you just classed into the FOTM and now you're pissed because you can't play with it. Know why the SCR is so deadly? because we have trained and committed to it. Know why Plasma cannon wielders are so accurate with an AV weapon? Because they trained with it. This game takes dedication and time, just because you made it to proto doesn't mean ****. I can run proto, but I still mainly run STD gear and I **** **** up. Start getting better, or move to a different game. plasma canon is in no way a weapon that requires skill, run past jump and fire down and usually get a kill or finish with sidearm, also fun for sniping unsuspecting campers, also the charge time is virtually non existant, SCR is deadly because its a TAC ar strapped to a charge sniper rifle, this isnt aliens, if it is I want my pulse rifle also im gonna say ive put a lot more time into the game than most people seeing as I literally spent 16 months sitting in my room playing nothing but dust 16-20 hours a day, im pretty dedicated to this game
Then why are you now complaining about **** that has been here the entire time? This game has so much variety to it, you're gonna run into a wide variety of situations. Some may be bullshit, but you need to just find a way to counter it. Everything can be beat one way or another. ****, I got 1 hit melee the other day by a Gal commando, twice. I spawned back in and he hit me for 1048 damage. I wasn't mad, I was shocked that it was possible to even do that, and I started researching how. If the BAR doesn't work for you, try something new. Don't come to the forums bitching because you can't kill anything anymore with your same old tactics.
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Tyrunis Bloodstone
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:35:00 -
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Well you see me now, **** you Demonkiller, I have never trolled on these forums you stupid **** |
demonkiller 12
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:41:00 -
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Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:Well you see me now, **** you Demonkiller, I have never trolled on these forums you stupid **** you do and, bye again |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:31:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Bethhy wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Isnt this supposed to be a fast paced shooter? Because it is actually the slowest first person shooter I have ever played. Ever since armor plates and shield extenders got that huge buff the game feels like its - to put it lightly, completely gone to ****. So i'm standing behind a heavy (std cal) who has no idea im there, or just doesnt care, im shooting him in the back with a proto burst assault riffle and 3 complex damage mods, it still takes me about 6 seconds shooting as fast as I can with every burst landing, just to kill him, alright hes a heavy hes supposed to take lots of damage Scout with 1k health - I know you can actually do this since I was messing around with fits when I speced into proto gal scout Assault with almost 1k armor - Isnt this just a faster heavy with a smaller hit box? Logi with over 1k health (can probably get 1k armor on amarr and galente logi if my minmatar logi can get almost 900 armor and 400 shield
the only role in this game that feels like it actually does what it is supposed to do is the assault, its made for killing, and its always done that, its always fit its role perfectly yet it still kind of feels the weakest, because every other suit feels like it doesnt do its role properly and instead is also perfect for killing, basically its like you go into the skill tree and you unlock your regular racial frame, then assault and then you choose between scout or logi to skill into, seems like the assault is just an everyday talent and then every other suit is an actual speciality.
I have more to talk about but its almost 4pm and I havent eaten anything so i'll be back in a bit to see what people think It takes a MLT SCR just over 3 seconds(3.28) to kill an Amarr proto sentinel with over 1800 health. With every shot landing. To me it sounds like a Net code issue. The rate in which CCP's servers and the clients talk. Things die stupid quick in this game... For a game that has regenerative armor and shields with high tech dropsuits to extend the range of ability a physical human would have. Plasma cannon? One hit kill weapon after someone spends 190k on a suit? Makes PERFECT SENSE FOR DUST. You Even die in this game when your clone was never killed.... Wait? How did i die when i never lost a clone? Oh yea... CoD... GG generation of FPS gamers who grew up knowing only CoD.... Looks like we get 10 years of Terrible ****** FPS games... Where the Average hardcore FPS gamer is still playing FPS games from 10 years ago...Because they are better .... Counter-strike, Team Fortress.. etc... No **** of course the Plasma cannon has to one hit kill a proto heavy. It does 1300 at standard n00b. You think a heavy or anyother dropsuit should survive a projectile from the Plasma cannon, NO. If the Sentinel is Amarr, they can tank through a STD Plasma Cannon shot. I've seen it happen.
No suit can tank through an AlloPLC w/ CPX DMG Mod + Galmmando 5, though, that I've encountered. |
Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.14 16:10:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote: I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
You are just the absolute worst player in this game. Are you seriously whining about getting killed by Plasma Cannons?! You are so butthurt at Plasma Cannons that you think they should be removed from the game?! Really? Really? I'm just kinda shocked...
Because that is just so rediculously absurd.
Whining about Plasma Cannons... ...I've seen it all.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.01.14 16:24:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote: I never said it shouldnt 1 hit a suit, it just shouldnt be in the game, along with Frisbee remotes
You are just the absolute worst player in this game. Are you seriously whining about getting killed by Plasma Cannons?! You are so butthurt at Plasma Cannons that you think they should be removed from the game?! Really? Really? I'm just kinda shocked... Because that is just so rediculously absurd. Whining about Plasma Cannons... ...I've seen it all. it is now official, PLASMA CANNON FOTM! |
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