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Joseph Ridgeson
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Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 01:41:00 -
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Love to see all those new blue tags. I am really quite interested in seeing how all this new stuff plays out. To those interested: Skill Points, Warbarge stuff, More Salvage
The most interesting thing is, of course, the Warbarge changes. That isn't just tweaking some numbers regarding SP or introducing vendor trash; that is an entirely new system that is having to be implemented in DUST. It might very well be the most ambitious thing that CCP has been successful in doing with DUST. Whether this is sad or exciting is in your interpretation. I only have one question: to what end?
How much farther is DUST capable of going with the current hardware and software? We were told to expect minor hotfixes, which I believe is what the SP change falls into and possibly the Salvage part. But this Warbarge overhaul is way beyond anything we have seen yet and is coming at a time when DUST is not at its strongest (IE, still recovering from months of radio silence). Considering that nothing can have a strong, long term plan on a console that is already 8 years old and the replacement to said platform was released 14 months ago, it seems so very strange to me that such extensive changes are coming.
These changes have to be difficult to do and will likely take quite a bit of development time, meaning money. With the Executive Producer not having posted anything for nearly 8 months, I am deeply curious where the current idea, the concept of 'DUST 514' stands. This new stuff has me wondering:
To what end?
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 04:36:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:You seem to be forgetting that Dust can serve as the perfect testing platform for Legion
I didn't forget but I am more focused on the several months it has been since Legion was even mentioned. The last bit was from Frame saying "we have not plans for Legion or DUST announcements at FanFest."
Like I said, I am just really curious where DUST is planning on going from here. If it was two years ago and all these changes were being implemented, I would have said nothing. If Legion was never mentioned, I wouldn't have minded. But I just want to know where the game is headed or if there is any kind of plan. But Rattati hates me and will never reply 
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 07:58:00 -
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Not Jadek Menaheim wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But Rattati hates me and will never reply Obvious dev bait is obvious dear Joseph.  To what end is this all? To upgrade my illustrious wooden leg you are so fond of. 
I am usually overly verbose so I figured I would ask it simple and straight, my peg-legged princess.
I could have worded it as:
"DUST 514 is in a very interesting place. After the announcement of Legion and subsequent statements by other CCP devs, we were lead to believe that Legion was going to replace DUST or at least was going to be put on the backburner for now. There was some unsettlingly news about how there would be no 'planned announcement' for Legion or DUST at FanFest. Now we have this extremely fascinating new bit of tech coming out; the new Warbarge system. I am really looking forward to it, adding even more depth to the game; even better if it is entirely optional and lets those who are crafty gain benefits over those that don't want to do it but small enough to not just be 'win more'. But this seems to be coming out of nowhere. There has been no announcement on the current big picture plans for DUST in some time and now we have the Trello boards as well as this Warbarge system.
I am wondering where this puts DUST 514, the current, in CCP's plans. The original idea seemed to be, at least how I understand in the way it was communicated, that Legion would take over where DUST left off in getting that true 'DUST 514' as a concept. But this seems to be the result of a massive shake up. If DUST 514 is on an old platform and we are a small, intimate community, I am curious that such a huge change is happening. Ecstatic that such a thing is happening and I am deeply looking forward to the new system... but I have to wonder; what is the end goal of DUST considering the original plan, the concept of 'DUST 514', has been so tricky to lay down?"
but I instead decided to cut out the flowery language and instead ask "to what end?"
Don't worry my Romani Buttercup; I will always have use of beautiful words to describe your radiance.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:16:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote: Hopefully to fund Legion or something similar. Or their going to take the money and run and were being bled, lol
These two things are not related though. BPO's and ways more purchasable things result in more money to CCP which is what they have been doing for the past few months. I am fine with CCP making money if it isn't egregious on the players and so far... been pretty alright. But how they use that money is interesting:
A. "Take it and run!" This is self-explanatory. I do not think this is what is happening given the Warbarge system. Hotfixes and tweaks are probably cheaper than entirely new stuff so they are spending money on the game. In my opinion, this isn't the case.
B. "Money for Legion." They are using money to fund Legion. The question is 'why build something so new for DUST?' though. Like above, hotfixes are surely cheaper than new stuff so money being spent on DUST is money not being spent on Legion and vice versa. This leads to the "to what end?" question.
C. "We are just building DUST to a better game." Certainly great but I have to ask: "What is the final goal with DUST given everything that has happened?"
Like I said, I am really damn happy about these new changes because they seem massive and massive things happening to a game that has been questioned on its health is good. But I still want to know where DUST is heading.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.14 10:24:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
Personally, to make Dust 514 a better game because I passionately care about it and the players.
Damn, a wild Rattati shows up and me without any Master Balls.
Does DUST currently have any kind of long term goal or end result beyond that? While that is an honorable goal and I really do believe you mean what you said, it is just strange that it was "hotfixes only" and now we are getting honest new content. Just seems like Oprah saying "Sorry, no cars this week..." and ending her show shouting "you get a car, and you get a car!"
Thanks for the reply Rattati.
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