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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:38:00 -
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HAV even with maxed out vehicles skill tree: More glass than cannon
ADS even with level 5 in ADS skills and skill tree: Just glass- no cannon. Well- enough of a cannon to destroy uplinks.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5430
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:39:00 -
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You keep telling yourself that. |
Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:41:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You keep telling yourself that.
Typical Infantry.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2781
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:53:00 -
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Please actually post constructive stuff instead if inciting both sides of the argument with this sh*tpost.
Yeah, we know there's some stuff wrong with vehicles. Either be constructive or shut up.
/thread
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:01:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Please actually post constructive stuff instead if inciting both sides of the argument with this sh*tpost.
Yeah, we know there's some stuff wrong with vehicles. Either be constructive or shut up.
/thread
Here's the deal, when you try to be constructive when 90% of the community consists of infantry, they come and shout "OMGZZ V3H1CLZ R 0PPP, OMFG N3RF CCP!!"
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2781
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:04:00 -
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Uh, I'm probably one of the biggest proponents and contributors around for vehicles (at least, more so than the average poster).
Do you really expect this post to do anything constructive? Really it only turns people away from what you're supporting.
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
302
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:04:00 -
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Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:07:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Uh, I'm probably one of the biggest proponents and contributors around for vehicles (at least, more so than the average poster).
Do you really expect this post to do anything constructive? Really it only turns people away from what you're supporting.
Naw im just here loling.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:07:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU.
Infantry pretending vehicles situation.
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
302
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:09:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU. Infantry pretending vehicles situation.
This is why no one can take you seriously. 0/10 troll.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:11:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You keep telling yourself that.
Well then stop complaining that your rifle can't destroy a tank.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:13:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Please actually post constructive stuff instead if inciting both sides of the argument with this sh*tpost.
Yeah, we know there's some stuff wrong with vehicles. Either be constructive or shut up.
/thread
"Some stuff"
Remember the dropsuit HP and forge non-fire bug?
With vehicles it's sorta like that, except it's been going on for over a year and a half. Railgun glitches? Still haven't been fixed for that amount of time.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:18:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
lolwut
Swarms fly faster than dropships, the third volley is guaranteed to hit now.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
I was nearly wiped out by a single Minmando in a PC, if I can barely survive that, you're not surviving two people.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Why must swarms destroy a tank with just 3 volleys? That's balanced? lol
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Tanks were never OP. Point out one time in the history of the game when tanks didn't have a solid counter.
If you're claiming that now blasters are viable, then you don't tank. Blasters are totally worthless now.
Redline railgun snipers? If you took out your own rail, they weren't a problem. Dunno why you're complaining about that. But if you are, you likely refused to take out a railgun, ever. Your own fault.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2716
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:20:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU. Infantry pretending vehicles situation. This is why no one can take you seriously. 0/10 troll.
That's because when we tell you how hard it is to be a pilot and how easy AV is to use, you cover your ears and start shouting "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
302
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:22:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU. Infantry pretending vehicles situation. This is why no one can take you seriously. 0/10 troll. That's because when we tell you how hard it is to be a pilot and how easy AV is to use, you cover your ears and start shouting "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
I can understand that it's hard if you are awful. And as you mentioned before, you can't fly away from the third volley with an ADS, you can't tank out the third volley in a tank, therefore you are an awful pilot.
You are the one who stands in a shitfit right at the middle of an open field right?
Quote:Tanks were never OP. Point out one time in the history of the game when tanks didn't have a solid counter.
1.7 and before.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1513
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:25:00 -
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Speaker is on here lol.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1513
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:28:00 -
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Through uprising and before 1.7 you had to be brain dead to not be able to solo a tank.
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WARxion ForDUST
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
302
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:29:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Through uprising and before 1.7 you had to be brain dead to not be able to solo a tank.
So you think tanks became better since 1.7? Hmm...
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
272
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:12:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey... just because you open a thread every two days with the same sentences, without any math/graph/spreadsheet behind your claims, they won't be true. I fly dropships, I drive tanks and hell yeah I love the swarms. Still...
- I can fly away from swarms even in a MLT dropship IF I have room and there is only 1 swarmer.
- I can get away in a tank with 2 repairs and a hardener even if there are 2 swarmers.
- I rarely can kill a tank solo with a Swarm Launcher. But I can do it regularly with help (another swarmer, AV, Forge, etc.)
Swarms were USELESS and tanks were OP as **** (seems like you already forgot the redline camper rails and the sniper rifle accurate blasters) before, now they are viable.
Git Gud and HTFU. Infantry pretending vehicles situation. This is why no one can take you seriously. 0/10 troll. That's because when we tell you how hard it is to be a pilot and how easy AV is to use, you cover your ears and start shouting "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Yeah, what he said.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CQxJuo0WJ8 at 2:20
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
3063
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:14:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Through uprising and before 1.7 you had to be brain dead to not be able to solo a tank.
So you think tanks became better since 1.7? Hmm...
NO Hell no.
The point about tank changes over the last year and a half was never about making them better.
Tanks done prior was controlled by CCP CMDR Wang's vision of Vehicles.... Which was for them to be an End game aspiration.
The Original concept for Vehicles in DUST was based off a War-point system.
You HAD to be an infantry and go score war-points to then earn the ability to call in the vehicle you bought and fitted off market.
Tanks cost millions of ISK and cost millions and millions of SP. It was End game.
Tanking became a main playstyle in DUST as it evolved with no management from CCP Shanghai.
CMDR Wang got fired...... Made some poor choices with responses to the community.
And the Community cried for tank concepts to be more a every mercenary thing.
So CCP Went back to the drawing board on how to figure this out... During this time they took alot of inspiration from Community suggested concept changes.
Did we want tanks to be end game and complex? Or did we want them to be the expendable arcade'y' versions of tanks that they evolved into
CCP went for cheap and expendable and made them easier for the everyday user to use.... MLT Tanks everywhere.... It was glorious...
Tank fights involving 8+ tanks.... Some of the most epic tank fights ever seen in DUST.....
And anyone could participate and call in a MLT tank and compete.... While Vet tankers had tons of targets to kill.
But Alas the Blaster turret was never fixed as asked, for a year prior... Blaster turret with pinpoint aim of an Assault rifle? It made sense the Blaster got a dispersion circle like a heavy or shotgun.
MLT tanks got nerfed.... Because why would we want anyone to be able to call in a tank and compete... 
Swarms got buffed recently along with Turret installations.
And Tanks are in their place they are now..... Completely confused on what they are for because of years of neglect and the absence of anyone at CCP's Management to truly ask what Tanks and Dropships are even for in DUST. |
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5433
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:24:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Joel II X wrote:You keep telling yourself that. Well then stop complaining that your rifle can't destroy a tank.
I never did, but you're free to tell yourself that. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2719
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:35:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:I can understand that it's hard if you are awful. AssumptionsAnd as you mentioned before, you can't fly away from the third volley with an ADS, I'm not skilled into the ADS anymore.you can't tank out the third volley in a tank, therefore you are an awful pilot. I said nearly destroyed. Nearly destroyed =/= actually being destroyed. And another assumption, me being a bad pilot.You are the one who stands in a shitfit right at the middle of an open field right? Another assumption.Quote:Tanks were never OP. Point out one time in the history of the game when tanks didn't have a solid counter. 1.7 and before. So you consider the removal of all turret variants, specialist vehicles, over 2/3 of the modules that were in the game before 1.7, and total slots to be a buff, and tanks being OP? lol
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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