DUST Search - Put your gun where your skill is

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

Sardonk Eternia wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing.

High risk = High reward

Optional of course.

I would like to see this mentality deployed in FW actually, and relate to the racial suits/weapons. This could either be optional like you say, or as a dedicated type of FW battle where one side is 100% matching the side they play for - invalidating suits or weapons from other races for that battle only. Of course to do this, we need racial parity in vehicles and weapons first...

This doesn't have anything to do with the OPs suggestion and is also a bad idea. There's no precedent in eve and it breaks the current convention of customization. It wouldn't add any depth to FW at all.

Three things:

1. I'm a 7 year Eve vet.

2. Dust is not Eve.

3. There is a lot of other differences between FW in Dust and Eve - plexes/PvE as a prime example

I see no reason we can't implement this here as an option - but you're right in that it wouldn't work for Eve as the mechanics there don't support this, and neither does the lore. Think about it - in Eve, you're part of the militia, meaning citizen soldier (you or not formal soldiers and you are not paid mercenaries - you volunteer so you can bring what you want to the party. There is no militia in Dust - we are hired mercenaries. There is no lore reason that says that as hired mercenaries we have an exclusivity clause about the gear used.

EDIT: And this idea is based on the OP, so yes it is related. I also said I don't like the idea of this happening in public matches and offered another way to introduce the mechanic he suggested.

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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6973	Posted - 2015.01.10 01:13:00 - [1] - Quote Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4997	Posted - 2015.01.10 02:41:00 - [2] - Quote I wouldn't gamble sh*t... especially since I play solo. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6973	Posted - 2015.01.10 03:13:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I wouldn't gamble sh*t... especially since I play solo. I play solo too, but sometimes you feel confident. Might as well test out your ability. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 576	Posted - 2015.01.10 12:25:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I like the idea, the problem being with the current no matchmaking the win multiplier would have to be higher maybe 1.85 or even 2. And it would make pubstomping more prevalent. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1493	Posted - 2015.01.10 13:39:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. hat would just be another way for protostompers to get more money. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 135	Posted - 2015.01.10 13:42:00 - [6] - Quote Only in a world without "high latency" players, and this game gives them both lag damage proofing and better hit detection.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6995	Posted - 2015.01.10 18:00:00 - [7] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. hat would just be another way for protostompers to get more money. And lose money. It would be good for everyone. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3483	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:08:00 - [8] - Quote +1231845 I would love to see the mercenary aspect of this game more highly reenforced. Would also make more players try instead of giving up after the initial push. I love the idea. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3177	Posted - 2015.01.10 21:19:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I would like to see this mentality deployed in FW actually, and relate to the racial suits/weapons. This could either be optional like you say, or as a dedicated type of FW battle where one side is 100% matching the side they play for - invalidating suits or weapons from other races for that battle only. Of course to do this, we need racial parity in vehicles and weapons first... I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning. Havok* is my *Destiny. I am Incorruptibl
Sardonk Eternia Tiny Universe 289	Posted - 2015.01.11 23:36:00 - [10] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I would like to see this mentality deployed in FW actually, and relate to the racial suits/weapons. This could either be optional like you say, or as a dedicated type of FW battle where one side is 100% matching the side they play for - invalidating suits or weapons from other races for that battle only. Of course to do this, we need racial parity in vehicles and weapons first... This doesn't have anything to do with the OPs suggestion and is also a bad idea. There's no precedent in eve and it breaks the current convention of customization. It wouldn't add any depth to FW at all.

Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1467	Posted - 2015.01.12 01:26:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I would prefer something objective based,not broad sweeping. Bonus if: -x amount of WP -x amount of kills -x amount of hacks -x amount of vehicles destroyed Choose one,then... Reward - 1.50 from 1 Failing a Bonus objective - .5 from 1 Then objectives could be tiered. Lv2 you get 0 ISK Lv3 you actually pay ISK as a penalty Loot rewarded can be added at higher levels,the higher the tier the rarer the item. And no '???' items. The description could be fully readable to see if the person actually wants it. However,'???' items can be added to the known reward for surpassing your goal. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7026	Posted - 2015.01.12 02:12:00 - [12] - Quote Meee One wrote: That's basically daily missions. Your suggestion isn't even slightly similar to mine. My idea either rewards the player highly or punishes them ruthlessly. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3178	Posted - 2015.01.12 02:25:00 - [13] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I would like to see this mentality deployed in FW actually, and relate to the racial suits/weapons. This could either be optional like you say, or as a dedicated type of FW battle where one side is 100% matching the side they play for - invalidating suits or weapons from other races for that battle only. Of course to do this, we need racial parity in vehicles and weapons first... This doesn't have anything to do with the OPs suggestion and is also a bad idea. There's no precedent in eve and it breaks the current convention of customization. It wouldn't add any depth to FW at all. Three things: 1. I'm a 7 year Eve vet. 2. Dust is not Eve. 3. There is a lot of other differences between FW in Dust and Eve - plexes/PvE as a prime example I see no reason we can't implement this here as an option - but you're right in that it wouldn't work for Eve as the mechanics there don't support this, and neither does the lore. Think about it - in Eve, you're part of the militia, meaning citizen soldier (you or not formal soldiers and you are not paid mercenaries - you volunteer so you can bring what you want to the party. There is no militia in Dust - we are hired mercenaries. There is no lore reason that says that as hired mercenaries we have an exclusivity clause about the gear used. EDIT: And this idea is based on the OP, so yes it is related. I also said I don't like the idea of this happening in public matches and offered another way to introduce the mechanic he suggested. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning. Havok, my Destiny. I am Incorruptible*
Sardonk Eternia Tiny Universe 290	Posted - 2015.01.12 02:28:00 - [14] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Sardonk Eternia wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Imagine if before you deployed for battle you were able to sign a contract with the corporation hiring you. It would basically say that either you win the battle for them and get 1.65x your earnings or lose and get nothing. High risk = High reward Optional of course. I would like to see this mentality deployed in FW actually, and relate to the racial suits/weapons. This could either be optional like you say, or as a dedicated type of FW battle where one side is 100% matching the side they play for - invalidating suits or weapons from other races for that battle only. Of course to do this, we need racial parity in vehicles and weapons first... This doesn't have anything to do with the OPs suggestion and is also a bad idea. There's no precedent in eve and it breaks the current convention of customization. It wouldn't add any depth to FW at all. Three things: 1. I'm a 7 year Eve vet. 2. Dust is not Eve. 3. There is a lot of other differences between FW in Dust and Eve - plexes/PvE as a prime example I see no reason we can't implement this here as an option - but you're right in that it wouldn't work for Eve as the mechanics there don't support this, and neither does the lore. Think about it - in Eve, you're part of the militia, meaning citizen soldier (you or not formal soldiers and you are not paid mercenaries - you volunteer so you can bring what you want to the party. There is no militia in Dust - we are hired mercenaries. There is no lore reason that says that as hired mercenaries we have an exclusivity clause about the gear used. EDIT: And this idea is based on the OP, so yes it is related. I also said I don't like the idea of this happening in public matches and offered another way to introduce the mechanic he suggested. My point stands. Restricting what gear you can wear in FW would add nothing to the game.


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