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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:00:00 -
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I've got to make this thread again. I don't understand why in this game, pistols in general have to be so miserably weak. It makes me sad, because I love pistols. I look at pistols in other games, and they are often complete alternatives to rifle play, but they just seem to be sub-rifles here.
Just undo the ScP Nerf altogether, and bring the IoP up to that level. The bolt pistol could get buffed back to where it was after the sidearm rebalance as well. The Flaylock... idk. Its too different for me to compare it to the others.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:12:00 -
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hold that wrote:you want to BP back to where it was during the sidearm event? thread invalid
If by "back to where it was" , you mean a healthy alternative to cookie cutter rifles... then yes.
I don't see why pistols can be used as primary weapons commonly without people all around the world throwing tantrums. I mean, what is that people have against them, man?!
Why must EVERY FPS be so excruciatingly rifle centric? Is a little bit of diversity such a bad thing that everyone and their grandmas have to use rifles or the world ends?
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:17:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:I've got to make this thread again. I don't understand why in this game, pistols in general have to be so miserably weak. It makes me sad, because I love pistols. I look at pistols in other games, and they are often complete alternatives to rifle play, but they just seem to be sub-rifles here.
Just undo the ScP Nerf altogether, and bring the IoP up to that level. The bolt pistol could get buffed back to where it was after the sidearm rebalance as well. The Flaylock... idk. Its too different for me to compare it to the others. Try proficiency. Rifles don't need proficiency to be acceptable primary weapons.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:24:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:I only use my SCP when my scr clip ran out ill pull out a Breach scp and finish them
Thats what I'd like to see changed. I don't want pistols to just be these backup weapons that Rattati has made them into. Why even have them in the game I they are only something to be pulled out after your rifle has run dry.
And they're not even that, sometimes. Its almost better to just reload the rifle than it is to switch over to a pistol. Its rediculous. In no game that I have ever played, have pistols been so ludicrously weak compared to rifles.
Scrambler Pistols used to be a viable alternative to rifles. They were really really fun weapons. Like insanely fun. Now they're not even worth equipping...
I'm going to be honest. Since 1.8, I've become more and more resentful of Rattati for needing the ScPs. Its almost to the point that I downright dislike him for it. I recognize that the other aspects of the game have made a definite improvement under his supervision, but I can't bring myself to forgive him for destroying my favorite weapon.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.09 23:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:hold that wrote:you want to BP back to where it was during the sidearm event? thread invalid If by "back to where it was" , you mean a healthy alternative to cookie cutter rifles... then yes. There is where your belief and aim in the game are at odds with the developers as well as most of the other players. Pistols are not meant to be an alternative to your primary weapon but a supplement. SMG to go with your Rail Rifle in case someone gets in your face or a Scrambler Pistol in the event that you run out of ammunition while still in a firefight. I would say that certain Sidearms can be true alternatives to Light Weapons. The Bolt Pistol is quite deadly especially if you sneak up on someone because it fires off so few shots that it isn't as obvious of "you are getting shot!" before the target is dead. Double Scrambler Pistol isn't too bad, especially if you can get Headshots. The reason that sidearms in games are generally made to be weaker is because of the real life comparison. A primary weapon is going to have more powder and a longer barrel to deliver a more powerful projectile. Again, the sidearm is there as additional ammunition or when the primary weapon is at a disadvantage. It is why game developers have done the same. The shotgun is absolute crap past 5 meters so use a sidearm to get out that farther reach. The Rail Rifle's charge time can kill you in a close fight so use an SMG to go with it.
The game was more fun and had more diversity and more pkaystyles when sidearms weren't just backup weapons.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:05:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:shaman oga wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:I've got to make this thread again. I don't understand why in this game, pistols in general have to be so miserably weak. It makes me sad, because I love pistols. I look at pistols in other games, and they are often complete alternatives to rifle play, but they just seem to be sub-rifles here.
Just undo the ScP Nerf altogether, and bring the IoP up to that level. The bolt pistol could get buffed back to where it was after the sidearm rebalance as well. The Flaylock... idk. Its too different for me to compare it to the others. Try proficiency. Rifles don't need proficiency to be acceptable primary weapons. He was talking about adding proficiency to his pistols, in response to the OP calling pistols weak. :/
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