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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3461
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:22:00 -
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Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos).
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1883
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:27:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos).
No, I want Breach HMG!
Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
262
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:28:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos).
I have no problem killing heavies, and I have np being a heavy. So im good.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3461
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:28:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos). No, I want Breach HMG!
And I want a flay lock shotgun (think Torgue shotguns from BL2)
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3465
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:29:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos). I have no problem killing heavies, and I have np being a heavy. So im good.
3/10, initially got me, then realized what you were doing, so 3 points for initial grab, but it was much too transparent.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
4297
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:29:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos).
I doubt it considering they want EZ mode.
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1240
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:30:00 -
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I dont accept, as a heavy I need 2x the dps of every over weapon while having 2x the hps and the best bonuses in the game.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2475
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:30:00 -
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Heavies are niche. They are in a good place.
Stop trying to 1 v 1 something with 1500 ehp.
That or find a crate to hide behind bruh, (There really is no shame in doing this.)
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3465
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:30:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:I dont accept, as a heavy I need 2x the dps of every over weapon while having 2x the hps and the best bonuses in the game.
Spoken like a true heavy.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
14382
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:30:00 -
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Their time to fire is still higher than any of the rifles, despite the overheat changes.
Yup.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
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Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
406
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:32:00 -
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Hmmm, I like this.
Instead of being good defenders because of their crazy damage output, they'll be good because of prolonged fire.
Approved.
[38.5m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 5]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3465
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:32:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Heavies are niche. They are in a good place.
Stop trying to 1 v 1 something with 1500 ehp.
That or find a crate to hide behind bruh, (There really is no shame in doing this.)
Ok Spkr.
"Infantry should stop trying to kill tanks 1v1. Thats another tanks job. It should be impossible for infantry."
If the above logic appears sound to you, please leave 
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
842
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:33:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Heavies are niche. They are in a good place.
Stop trying to 1 v 1 something with 1500 ehp.
That or find a crate to hide behind bruh, (There really is no shame in doing this.)
Why does everyone assume people are trying to 1v1 heavies....
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1240
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:33:00 -
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Overheat is a joke, once I calculated it and it was something like 2400 dmg of continuos fire before overheat on a standard HMG!!!!!
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3465
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Their time to fire is still higher than any of the rifles, despite the overheat changes.
Yup.
I feel like that should be the niche of the HMG: suppression via extended time to fire.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2475
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:34:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Heavies are niche. They are in a good place.
Stop trying to 1 v 1 something with 1500 ehp.
That or find a crate to hide behind bruh, (There really is no shame in doing this.) Ok Spkr. "Infantry should stop trying to kill tanks 1v1. Thats another tanks job. It should be impossible for infantry." If the above logic appears sound to you, please leave
/Leaves thread.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2475
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:35:00 -
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I feel like HMGs don't do enough damage to the enemy MCC tbh.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
262
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:35:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos). I have no problem killing heavies, and I have np being a heavy. So im good. 3/10, initially got me, then realized what you were doing, so 3 points for initial grab, but it was much too transparent.
lol ouch, just being honest
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2476
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:42:00 -
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I think the Minnie heavy should have an equipment slot.
Just for lulz.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3468
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:44:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:I think the Minnie heavy should have an equipment slot.
Just for lulz.
That'd be lol worthy indeed.
Id make an RE chucking Min sentinel just to **** off other sentinels so when they come and while on the forums they whine about heavies being OP 
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2424
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:46:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Heavies are niche. They are in a good place.
Stop trying to 1 v 1 something with 1500 ehp.
That or find a crate to hide behind bruh, (There really is no shame in doing this.) Why does everyone assume people are trying to 1v1 heavies....
Because lots of people STILL TRY to 1v1 heavies. I only try to 1v1 them if there weak and no logi. Or if i fluxed them.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
7022
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Their time to fire is still higher than any of the rifles, despite the overheat changes.
Yup.
Compensated by the fact that there is no need to aim at all.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1241
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
If I want to feel better about myself and get some guaranteed kills, I go sent-hmg. That's how forgiving it is.
CCP Rattati wrote:
HMG is not a suppression weapon currently, it's a destroy anything in its path weapon and far too forgiving. I like the damage part that way, but not for such a long sustainable time. If I wanted it to suppress, I would decrease damage per round. You can still hold the trigger down for many seconds, especially with skills. And I speak for myself when I declare that spooling is terrible. I think everyone was happy when it was removed, but anything is possible.
I'l just leave this here.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3468
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:50:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
If I want to feel better about myself and get some guaranteed kills, I go sent-hmg. That's how forgiving it is.
CCP Rattati wrote:
HMG is not a suppression weapon currently, it's a destroy anything in its path weapon and far too forgiving. I like the damage part that way, but not for such a long sustainable time. If I wanted it to suppress, I would decrease damage per round. You can still hold the trigger down for many seconds, especially with skills. And I speak for myself when I declare that spooling is terrible. I think everyone was happy when it was removed, but anything is possible.
I'l just leave this here.
I think he needs to consider the role of the heavy from "Instaganker" to "Suppressor".
Instagank should be the role of speedy, low HP suits.
Suppressor should have higher DoT, but much less raw killing capacity, unless someone is stupid enough to not get to cover. Suppressors should be the role of the slow, high HP frames.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
7023
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:52:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:
Because lots of people STILL TRY to 1v1 heavies. I only try to 1v1 them if there weak and no logi. Or if i fluxed them.
This is a FPS. EVERYTHING should be killed as easy as it kills.
This is Basic FPS rule.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1260
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Posted - 2015.01.09 22:19:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Would this satisfy you?
Nerf HMG RoF so that it takes much longer to overheat but also does less damage, say around 600 DPS instead of 900?
As a heavy since 1.7, I think that this would be a buff to the more skillful heavies so that they have the capacity to kill multiple targets and get more time to fire, but discourages the death touch style of aiming (see KTB's videos). No, I want Breach HMG!
Yes, like Alex's HMG!
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