DUST Search - A question for people who play public matches.

Sergeant Sazu wrote:

When I have a team that sticks torgether and holds the line, I pull out my ADV Minmatar Logi to help out. And no, I don't just stick to a heavy and farm WP. I do my best to keep everyone on their feet and at full armor. Proto needle, proto Repair Tool, always.

My question is, what would you like my 3rd equipment slot to have? I'm simply asking what the average pub player would appreciate most. I currently carry an Ishukone Nanohive. (Not the Gauged, too expensive)

Most Assaults carry a Nanohive, and the HMG has fairly sustainable ammo reserves. I feel that I could possibly be more useful elsewhere.

-I'm considering Uplinks, since there is the occasional shortage, and I want my allies back at my side quickly if they're terminated/didn't ask for a revive.

-I'm currently maxing out Active Scanners. Pros: Would provide my allies with the tactical advantage to not only fight better, but prevent anyone from flanking and taking out the prime target, me. Cons: It might be detrimental to break reps for scanning, especially if the situation is intense. Would be favorable to run a Quantum scanner if so.

Disclaimers:
No, I will not use a proto suit for more equipment. I'm not loaded with ISK, and it's just a pub match.
No, I will not use Remotes, as they are impractical. The things that REs do, I'm already sustaining the people who are performing those tasks. (Killing heavies, guarding points)

Thoughts?

"If you want some, come get some cause where i'm from we tote big guns" ~Trick Daddy~

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Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 381	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:35:00 - [1] - Quote When I have a team that sticks torgether and holds the line, I pull out my ADV Minmatar Logi to help out. And no, I don't just stick to a heavy and farm WP. I do my best to keep everyone on their feet and at full armor. Proto needle, proto Repair Tool, always. My question is, what would you like my 3rd equipment slot to have? I'm simply asking what the average pub player would appreciate most. I currently carry an Ishukone Nanohive. (Not the Gauged, too expensive) Most Assaults carry a Nanohive, and the HMG has fairly sustainable ammo reserves. I feel that I could possibly be more useful elsewhere. -I'm considering Uplinks, since there is the occasional shortage, and I want my allies back at my side quickly if they're terminated/didn't ask for a revive. -I'm currently maxing out Active Scanners. Pros: Would provide my allies with the tactical advantage to not only fight better, but prevent anyone from flanking and taking out the prime target, me. Cons: It might be detrimental to break reps for scanning, especially if the situation is intense. Would be favorable to run a Quantum scanner if so. Disclaimers: No, I will not use a proto suit for more equipment. I'm not loaded with ISK, and it's just a pub match. No, I will not use Remotes, as they are impractical. The things that REs do, I'm already sustaining the people who are performing those tasks. (Killing heavies, guarding points) Thoughts? [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6412	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:38:00 - [2] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: -I'm considering Uplinks, since there is the occasional shortage, and I want my allies back at my side quickly if they're terminated/didn't ask for a revive. -I'm currently maxing out Active Scanners. Pros: Would provide my allies with the tactical advantage to not only fight better, but prevent anyone from flanking and taking out the prime target, me. Cons: It might be detrimental to break reps for scanning, especially if the situation is intense. Would be favorable to run a Quantum scanner if so. Are you solo? Uplinks Are you in a squad, and no one else has a scanner? Still uplinks Are you in a squad, and someone does not have a scanner, AND two other people are already fitting uplinks? Okay fine, active scanner. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2754	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:39:00 - [3] - Quote If you have a proto rep tool, you might not need a proto needle in my opinion, although its very valiant of you. I would suggest using an enh needle and either GOOD links or indeed the gauged hives, ammo is almost always very useful. Spkr4theDead wrote: Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 240	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:41:00 - [4] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: When I have a team that sticks torgether and holds the line, I pull out my ADV Minmatar Logi to help out. And no, I don't just stick to a heavy and farm WP. I do my best to keep everyone on their feet and at full armor. Proto needle, proto Repair Tool, always. My question is, what would you like my 3rd equipment slot to have? I'm simply asking what the average pub player would appreciate most. I currently carry an Ishukone Nanohive. (Not the Gauged, too expensive) Most Assaults carry a Nanohive, and the HMG has fairly sustainable ammo reserves. I feel that I could possibly be more useful elsewhere. -I'm considering Uplinks, since there is the occasional shortage, and I want my allies back at my side quickly if they're terminated/didn't ask for a revive. -I'm currently maxing out Active Scanners. Pros: Would provide my allies with the tactical advantage to not only fight better, but prevent anyone from flanking and taking out the prime target, me. Cons: It might be detrimental to break reps for scanning, especially if the situation is intense. Would be favorable to run a Quantum scanner if so. Disclaimers: No, I will not use a proto suit for more equipment. I'm not loaded with ISK, and it's just a pub match. No, I will not use Remotes, as they are impractical. The things that REs do, I'm already sustaining the people who are performing those tasks. (Killing heavies, guarding points) Thoughts? If your trying to hold a line: spawns, needle, rep tool. If your in a squad: ammo, needle, rep tool. I would just alternate between the two. "If you want some, come get some cause where i'm from we tote big guns" ~Trick Daddy~
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 380	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:43:00 - [5] - Quote First of all, thank you for being a logi instead of a leech. Secondly our ammo reserves (for sentinels) aren't unlimited, and we can go through a few hundred rounds very quickly. So I would say your third equipment should be situational. If your team is dying quicker than you can prevent, then use the uplinks. However I would prefer you to run with nanohives so fatasses like myself can lay down a nice stead stream of stopping power. Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 381	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:45:00 - [6] - Quote KingBabar wrote: If you have a proto rep tool, you might not need a proto needle in my opinion, although its very valiant of you. I would suggest using an enh needle and either GOOD links or indeed the gauged hives, ammo is almost always very useful. My first thought was also "I have a proto rep tool with the max bonus, why should I run anything but a MLT needle?" Then I discovered the huge combat advantage of picking someone up at almost full HP. If it's a really intense situation where it would otherwise be a stupid revive, they have more time to survive until I lock the Repair Tool, and therefore more time to retreat to cover with me or fight on if they wish. [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 382	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:53:00 - [7] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: First of all, thank you for being a logi instead of a leech. Secondly our ammo reserves (for sentinels) aren't unlimited, and we can go through a few hundred rounds very quickly. So I would say your third equipment should be situational. If your team is dying quicker than you can prevent, then use the uplinks. However I would prefer you to run with nanohives so fatasses like myself can lay down a nice steady stream of stopping power. In my plentiful experience as an HMG heavy, I rarely have ammo problems. Though it's possible that I just suck and don't live long enough to need ammo. :P [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 381	Posted - 2015.01.08 21:58:00 - [8] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: First of all, thank you for being a logi instead of a leech. Secondly our ammo reserves (for sentinels) aren't unlimited, and we can go through a few hundred rounds very quickly. So I would say your third equipment should be situational. If your team is dying quicker than you can prevent, then use the uplinks. However I would prefer you to run with nanohives so fatasses like myself can lay down a nice steady stream of stopping power. In my plentiful experience as an HMG heavy, I rarely have ammo problems. Though it's possible that I just suck and don't live long enough to need ammo. :P Some say I am too generous with my distribution of ammunition. I say I am not generous enough! Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1872	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:05:00 - [9] - Quote I use Logistics M-1 (STD) Six Kin Triage Rep Tool (PRO) KIN-011 Needle (ADV) K-2 Nanohive (ADV) I rep anyone who is shooting at someone, or anyone who I hear shooting, I love keeping militia guys alive, gives them confidence and maybe they'll enjoy the game! PRO needles are too much IMO, STD is taking the biscuit, ADV is enough for you to get points and for the guy you revived to stand a chance whilst he's being repped. To answer your question, any nanohive which you can equip 2 of. Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 240	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:05:00 - [10] - Quote Also your going to find out Sazu that many times in pub matches(if your not on a squad) that nobody pushes the revive button very much anymore "If you want some, come get some cause where i'm from we tote big guns" ~Trick Daddy~

Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 266	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:06:00 - [11] - Quote Uplinks and scanner. Know where, when and how to drop the uplinks though and drop more than one some distance apart and preferably where people can flank or are protected. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 385	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:19:00 - [12] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Also your going to find out Sazu that many times in pub matches(if your not on a squad) that nobody pushes the revive button very much anymore This is something I know already, I logi a lot. Something else I've noticed and mentioned elsewhere on the forums: When people realize that they're in good hands, I see the revive symbol a lot more for the rest of the match. They know that someone actually helpful is on the case. Also, in my anecdotal experience, it's mostly the starter fits/noobish looking suits that don't press X. I'm guessing they don't know that they have to. In the event that they don't request a revive, I stand over them and repeatedly pull out the injector. Makes that loud noise to signal them like "Hey, it's all good now. I gotcha bro." Works a decent amount of the time, surprisingly. [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 385	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:23:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Uplinks and scanner. Know where, when and how to drop the uplinks though and drop more than one some distance apart and preferably where people can flank or are protected. This is something I would do on a Gallente Logi. (Whenever I decide to skill into it) But I have to keep the needle and rep tool. It's the entire reason I use the Minmatar Logi. [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 245	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:28:00 - [14] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Also your going to find out Sazu that many times in pub matches(if your not on a squad) that nobody pushes the revive button very much anymore This is something I know already, I logi a lot. Something else I've noticed and mentioned elsewhere on the forums: When people realize that they're in good hands, I see the revive symbol a lot more for the rest of the match. They know that someone actually helpful is on the case. Also, in my anecdotal experience, it's mostly the starter fits/noobish looking suits that don't press X. I'm guessing they don't know that they have to. In the event that they don't request a revive, I stand over them and repeatedly pull out the injector. Makes that loud noise to signal them like "Hey, it's all good now. I gotcha bro." Works a decent amount of the time, surprisingly. Hey I just had an idea. If you don't feel like squading, right before the match starts put your headset on and tell everyone to hit the revive button cause there will be a dedicated logibro on the field. Heck, could'nt hurt. Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 576	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:34:00 - [15] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: When I have a team that sticks torgether and holds the line, I pull out my ADV Minmatar Logi to help out. And no, I don't just stick to a heavy and farm WP. I do my best to keep everyone on their feet and at full armor. Proto needle, proto Repair Tool, always. My question is, what would you like my 3rd equipment slot to have? I'm simply asking what the average pub player would appreciate most. I currently carry an Ishukone Nanohive. (Not the Gauged, too expensive) Most Assaults carry a Nanohive, and the HMG has fairly sustainable ammo reserves. I feel that I could possibly be more useful elsewhere. -I'm considering Uplinks, since there is the occasional shortage, and I want my allies back at my side quickly if they're terminated/didn't ask for a revive. -I'm currently maxing out Active Scanners. Pros: Would provide my allies with the tactical advantage to not only fight better, but prevent anyone from flanking and taking out the prime target, me. Cons: It might be detrimental to break reps for scanning, especially if the situation is intense. Would be favorable to run a Quantum scanner if so. Disclaimers: No, I will not use a proto suit for more equipment. I'm not loaded with ISK, and it's just a pub match. No, I will not use Remotes, as they are impractical. The things that REs do, I'm already sustaining the people who are performing those tasks. (Killing heavies, guarding points) Thoughts? well placed links are incredibly handy... and for some reason a lot of people don't seem to carry them anymore. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 389	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:46:00 - [16] - Quote Verdict: I'm replacing the Nanohive with Uplinks. There's been some threads about the shortage, so I'll help out. (Plus Uplinks are cheaper) I'll make a separate fit specifically for setting up a few Nanohives and running to a Supply Depot to switch back. I'll use the best Nanohives so I don't have to spam them, don't worry. [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14945	Posted - 2015.01.08 22:49:00 - [17] - Quote The Ishukone Gauged Nanohive & Ishukone Nanohive have the same ISK & CPU/PG costs. I honestly don't care what you use in PUBs but if I were you I'd have mulitpule fits with different equipment, as you'll sometimes need different equipment in different situations. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 391	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:06:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Ishukone Gauged Nanohive & Ishukone Nanohive have the same ISK & CPU/PG costs. I honestly don't care what you use in PUBs but if I were you I'd have mulitpule fits with different equipment, as you'll sometimes need different equipment in different situations. Guaged is 28k ISK. Regular variant is 17k. Flux is also 17k, but costs more CPU, so I can't fit it. [38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
TritusX PH4NT0M5 91	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:08:00 - [19] - Quote ew people who can say for you pub people i only do pubs >:( Anyway, third equipment, like Atiim said, it should be situational. I tend for my overall fit to have rep tool, revive, and nanohive. Find a spot to put uplinks where some people will access easily and heal. Make your own logi station. Throw nanohives down and make the best use of the space you have. If you're in a room, don't pitch the nanohive into a corner so only half the radius is useful, put it somewhere where it is better for everyone. Minja and Minlogi at your service
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 276	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:14:00 - [20] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: ... Thoughts? 1. Rep tool 2. Injector 3. Hive 4. 26db Scanner (for proto) + U MUST HAVE 1 COMPLEX PRECISION ENCHANCER. I don't use uplinks, it's easier not let to die my squad mates I run logi about 2 years now, and run only with proto suit with republic dual rep, 'quantum ishukone" hive and 'kalakiota' injector. In good battle about 4-7k WP and ~300k ISK

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 3059	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:22:00 - [21] - Quote Uplinks. Every since the BW change, there have been less Uplinks. It is a HUGE amount of WP. Since you are looking to be helpful, think of it like this: whenever I throw down 2 Uplinks, I get several hundred WP which means that dozens of people are looking to spawn in the battle. People need them, you provide them. When Solo, Needle is a little 'meh' as more often than not people will be in a bad spot when they die. You will often see your Needle be pointless. When in a Squad when it can be "let's all go get Jimmy's body" it is different. Nanohives can help you repair people when you are elsewhere as well as restock their stuff. For people that like using Mass Driver, Nanohives are a godsend because they are always super low on ammo. I would say: Repair (always), Uplink (most always), and Nanohive/Needle (when Solo or Squad) "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy 448	Posted - 2015.01.09 01:31:00 - [22] - Quote I say stick with nano hives but have an alternate logi suit you can pull out at the beginning to place some links and then switch to hives. when uplinks get low, switch and put some more down. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 34mil sp - - GFC, GJR Approved -`
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5681	Posted - 2015.01.09 03:10:00 - [23] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: KingBabar wrote: If you have a proto rep tool, you might not need a proto needle in my opinion, although its very valiant of you. I would suggest using an enh needle and either GOOD links or indeed the gauged hives, ammo is almost always very useful. My first thought was also "I have a proto rep tool with the max bonus, why should I run anything but a MLT needle?" Then I discovered the huge combat advantage of picking someone up at almost full HP. If it's a really intense situation where it would otherwise be a stupid revive, they have more time to survive until I lock the Repair Tool, and therefore more time to retreat to cover with me or fight on if they wish. I like the way you think. F dirty needles Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
The Eristic Dust 90210 686	Posted - 2015.01.09 04:19:00 - [24] - Quote Just build one with each, swap to the appropriate one as the match plays out. Also, to bring up a point mentioned on the last page, you should be able to save a little ISK AND make more WP (through the additional triage) by running an advanced needle instead of proto unless the fight is at close range or in an area with poor cover. Heck, even a cheap needle would do if there is good cover, since you're running proto reps that will top off most suits super quickly. Just bringing it up to keep a real logi in business longer. I certainly do appreciate being picked up by the kind clones that do run proto needles! Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5404	Posted - 2015.01.09 04:37:00 - [25] - Quote Uplinks. ADV or better. If your team has problems because they always get ganked from flanks, throw down uplinks and whip out the scanner. Nanohives ate always welcomed.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3636	Posted - 2015.01.09 11:11:00 - [26] - Quote Go for hives, i would switch to ADV needle if you need more space. But links generally gives more WP. Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1951	Posted - 2015.01.09 11:13:00 - [27] - Quote Make your first logi fit have up links for the 3rd slot and when you go down come back with hives in that 3rd slot Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Academy Inferno E-R-A 247	Posted - 2015.01.09 11:51:00 - [28] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Make your first logi fit have up links for the 3rd slot and when you go down come back with hives in that 3rd slot This. After suit change don't throw hives all at once, your uplinks should stay.
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 167	Posted - 2015.01.09 11:58:00 - [29] - Quote KingBabar wrote: If you have a proto rep tool, you might not need a proto needle in my opinion, although its very valiant of you. I would suggest using an enh needle and either GOOD links or indeed the gauged hives, ammo is almost always very useful. Yeah i run adv needle and the core rep tool in pubs as its the cheapest proto repper and heals 2 peeps at once for 13 k isk Yet another slave of Mortedeamor


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