Ok, let's try this, OP.

Lets say we buff proxies and change the BW to 1. RE's also get a BW cost of 1.

Now whats your opinion?

Anyway, so here's the thing OP. You're doing it wrong.

I already pretty much knew the answer. We've simply confirmed the truth. BW is not the problem here. Neither are all the "bad logis" running around (I'll get to that in a second. Edit: in another thread). You're just spamming all these needless flame bait threads and looking like an unreasonable troll.

Not that thats new and unprecedented, but you either don't realize or aren't even asking for what it is you really want!
You are either a very accomplished troll setting us up for your actual request or have made all this wasted effort asking for the wrong thing.

My advice? Realize that all you really want is not only fairly simple but also far more palatable to the rest of us. It's not like you can frisbee 4 at a time. Hell, I'm totally down with reducing the BW cost of explosives, though Im not sure that a cost of 1 for both types is the best number. Up for discussion.

TL;DR FFS stop wasting everyone's time(including your own) with this aimless trololol and just ask for what you really want, which is basically just more splosions.

So basically you are saying everything can and should be able to done better in a scout suit? Does that sound like an ideal or balanced solution in ANY WAY to you? I suppose it does otherwise you wouldn't have said it the way you did.

That's all I needed to read. I don't want to play the game you describe.

Still laughing... If only you knew...



Oh. my. GOD!

I can't even... It's just... Wow.

Seriously? That's your counter-argument? It does not matter which suit you are talking about! No matter which suit it is, if it is working as you describe, ITS BROKEN.

Every suit should be viable and unquestionably, with no room for debate, superior in every major aspect of its designated role. End of story.

Honestly, I've lost all hope here.

The entire concept of game balance and player classes is based on ONE simple principle:

Every class has a particular function/role/specialization for which they are designed to be "best" at. No other class, when both are being used as intended by the designer should be nearly as effective at it.

When this is no longer the case, one class is rendered obsolete. This is improper game design and results in a lack of diversity in the long run as everyone will use the same imbalanced class.

If paper always beats scissors, too, nobody will ever use a rock.

If you are unable to grasp that as not just an aim, but as a necessity, then there Is no point in continuing.

^ sad that this question continues to get overlooked in the sea of scout QQ we see here.

Just want to point out one thing: told you so. All you people who whined about nerfing logi suits "because spam" or never buffing them because "oh noes slayer logis are the boogie man".

Now you see the truth. Spam had NOTHING to do with logis and everything to do with scrubby spam tourists.

Anyway, back to the I portent question. IMO the main issue is the logi suits are in dire need of a buff. They are simultaneously slow, squishy, and expensive. That's the worst possible combination. There's a whole excellent thread started by Cross but this is the gist of it.

1) whether you make them heavier than assaults or lighter/faster than assaults, one of the two has to happen. If you want us squishy, fine, but we can't also be so damn slow. If you want us slow, then we need some HP or resistances.

2) The bonuses need to be tweaked so that we are not restricted to only one kind of EQ. Example: It's stupid that a rep tool works just as well on a gal scout or cal assault than it does on my Amarr logi suit.

Those two things alone would go a long way.

Also, those corps that apparently tell their logis they need to just shut up and leash a sentinel are a big part of the problem. Nobody learns how to be a f*cking actual logi any more!