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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2015.01.08 20:47:00 -
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Seeing as we are around 6 months in when is the next CPM election anyways? The CSM elections have already been announced to be early and coincide with FanFest in March. Also, we have yet to hear anything regarding CPM's Shanghai summit or if any summit will even occur.
With how close we came to CPM 1 not actually happening I would hate to see all the community effort die with us only ending up with one elected Council.
In regard to Judge, you almost always end up with a dud on a council. I think what really irks people is when Judge tried to cover up and explain away the inactivity while being active on another community's forum.
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:25:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Major 0nslaught wrote:Cpm has proven again and again that they cannot be trusted. Where has CPM1 let you down so far?
Communication about what's going on with the CPM in the vien of what Hans did with his blog posts would be great even in the form of a forum post. You guys are great in general updating folks when they talk to you directly, but a more formal and public communication would be a big plus for the community.
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:48:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote: (Except Kane's. I ignore Kane's opinion outright. Always.) 
Awwwww...... I feel so special and loved now. 
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Posted - 2015.01.09 17:59:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Major 0nslaught wrote:Cpm has proven again and again that they cannot be trusted. Where has CPM1 let you down so far? Communication about what's going on with the CPM in the vien of what Hans did with his blog posts would be great even in the form of a forum post. You guys are great in general updating folks when they talk to you directly, but a more formal and public communication would be a big plus for the community. 1. Hans gave up around october and went all dark and nothing was put up ever again
Hans stopped posting with the express intention of getting CCP to step up to the plate and actually communicate about WTF was going on. Now we have a situation that is a bit the opposite with CCP being pretty communicative and CPM being much more difficult to get a handle on if you only use the forums (again get on Skype, email, etc and poke a CPM and you'll get a response). Now, I would like to see some updates from CCP about the CPM as well in terms of the summit, elections, etc. Seeing as CCP Falcon mentioned that CCP Logibro is more Eve Online focused at this point not sure who at CCP would provide that update if not him.
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:55:00 -
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Okay, I keep reading stuff about CPM 1 "doing their jobs" or "what have you accomplished" and I feel like I need to put some things in perspective that I think people are missing. There are communication milestones that have happened under CPM 1 that I never would have imagined would have occurred.
Probably the biggest and best example being the public roadmap. We fought like heck during the 18 months of CPM 0 for that kind of open communication and to see the dam finally break on some of the black box deving really can't be just shrugged off. The public roadmap is actually more open in many ways than what Eve does with their upcoming releases. Add on to that the public roadmap post around Christmas, which I'm pretty sure the CPM helped to have put out as fast as possible.
The positive impact on the feedback cycle between the community and developers and from what I can tell the CPM being somewhat involved in giving feedback regarding release planning are other accomplishments that you can't ignore. The increased communication from CCP while there is still time for the code to be changed based on feedback from the community is a huge deal. It used to be that by the time it was on the forums it was over and done with and code locked to boot.
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