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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:15:00 -
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Man if CPM had an internal scoring system on things they do like show up for the meetings; leaving suggestions; having a convo with a developer.
Oh wait...
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 14:24:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:@ BAMM HAVOC
I can understand the sentiment when it comes to Judge, but how is it safe to assume that the others are "doing nothing"? On what do we base this assumption/claim? On the simple basis that they are not sticking up for themselves. Other then letting us know they are working hard to type out their opinions in fancy TXT documents for CCP to review.... When you have campaigned to the community for their support in votes and understanding.. Then have patches that you say you have had your hand in... But have no statement that has been made from the CPM Council or CCP as a whole on what they helped with. The Community as a whole voted in this group... We are wanting to know what that vote was for... We are wanting to know what our elected council members have put in for feedback and changes to upcoming patches. We don't need to know what they are doing at this point or anything about a future patch.... But when the patch goes live and we get little to no update about anything from the CPM and how their input to the patch has put the community into the development process. We as the voters feel like we are just to elevate these people into CCP management structure where we are then kicked out and left at the back door to eat scraps that they decide to feed us. It is a terrible experience and why most people Detest the idea of CPM. Fight for Information and keeping us Informed first... The best piece of work this CPM Council has done so far for it's voters? Have CCP Rattati Post his Roadmap for the Future.
Hate to inform you but we're not supposed to be CCP Spokespeople; the more ccp chatters to you guys first or sooner; the better. This was an absolute major mistake on CPM 0 that probably held back a bunch of decisions because of the shoehorning involved.
Lets put things this a way; CSM has yet still not managed to get CCP to publish an eve side road map.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:19:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: CCP Reykjavik probably doesn't have desperation driving them to make decisions.
**** poor excuse to not have a public roadmap available any community
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 15:24:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:
We have an internal scoring system? Am I winning?
There is no winning this; there are only losers.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 16:03:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:I'd feel more comfortable about CPMs commenting on fixing PC if there were any that I knew were actually playing PC now. BTW, I listened to the latest biomassed podcast. During, one of the commentators commented they'd like if we could do consecutive battles on a district in a single day as you can only attack a specific district once a day now. For those that don't know, if you have the clones available, you can do consecutive attacks on a specific district in a single day. Not saying the commentator himself was a CPM but there were CPMs in attendance and no one corrected the commentator. Not sure about you but I certainly feel I am in capable hands.
Xel should have corrected him. Heated argument hard to elbow in at times.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 19:19:00 -
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I completely disagree with the CPM making a most patch report on where they contributed as a couple things do happen.
1 Said member gets FULL blame over all design decisions no matter how much blue intervention posts declaring otherwise 2 Was done before and led to so much negatives and losses verses than positives and thus will never be done or exercised ever again most likely. 3 CPM are not game designers 4 CCP should be the ones ultimately getting the credit as it is their work overall along with the community that helped shape the idea.
As for our reports Ill poke the guy that wanted to do them and see if he can do a new one after his holiday
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 20:33:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Quote:I completely disagree with the CPM making a most patch report on where they contributed as a couple things do happen. I get that and that is understandable. After all, it's not like you guys are getting paid. Still, you guys were voted in because you wanted the job. We, as players and community, just want some evidence you are doing that job. We have little (to no actual) evidence of that now. And I do appreciate the replies from CPM1.
To blame the community would be in bad taste the topics issued where very controversial there was no way to middle ground majority of those subjects without a 20% or more **** off rate but the negatives of having this out has done more to alienate the community from the cpm and the amount of feeding the cpm information since then seemed to have dropped down a large bit.
CPM is still quite active still managed a meeting during the second business holiday season and information we're seeing ccp push out.
I would love to do the reports but I am up to my eyes in work because Iron Wolf is Iron Wolf.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.09 21:25:00 -
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ISD is a common topic that we keep requesting the update status on as Xel said the specific reason as to why it is not being done is NDA as it is more intercompany related more than anything else.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2015.01.10 01:16:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Man if CPM had an internal scoring system on things they do like show up for the meetings; leaving suggestions; having a convo with a developer.
Oh wait... They should give you 5 strongboxes for attending 1 meeting, and 7 for talking for 3 minutes while giving a suggestion.
In that case CPM 0 Hans has more boxes than he'd know what to do with followed closely by Kain.
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