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robin williams' ghost
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:44:00 -
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No AV players do not want this. You want this so you can troll around in your death fortress and go 30/0 every match. Let's be honest here.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:52:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:No AV players do not want this. You want this so you can troll around in your death fortress and go 30/0 every match. Let's be honest here. I see Scouts and Sentinels doing this. Don't be a hypocrite.
I also see assaults and commandos doing it. Why does everyone think scouts and heavies are the only ones who can slay?
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:56:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Okay, to be fair, Swarms need a nerfbat ******* BAD.
They require the least skill of any weapon in this game, and are the most dangerous.
If this game had ANY logic to it's design, Plasma Cannons would be the most powerful AV. Instead, Plasma Cannon users have to deal with an arc AND slow projectile speed, and their reward for getting hits despite those is to do a pitiful amount of damage while some skill-less Swarm user just holds down R1 three times and then waits through a short reload before doing that again until he runs out of ammo.
I see you've never used swarms. It does take skill. If you don't time your shots just right the pilot will simply run off quickly, regen, and come back for another round. Plus swarms barely scratch shield tanks, even at proto. So unless the pilot is an idiot, or you coordinate your attack with another av player, vehicles can be on the verge of invincibility. Why are we even having this conversation again? Wtf
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robin williams' ghost
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:58:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:No AV players do not want this. You want this so you can troll around in your death fortress and go 30/0 every match. Let's be honest here. I see Scouts and Sentinels doing this. Don't be a hypocrite. I also see assaults and commandos doing it. Why does everyone think scouts and heavies are the only ones who can slay? More common than Assaulta and Commandoa. But Assaults are slowly making a comeback.
Guess you've never seen my minmando with a mass driver and a nasty rifle of some sorts. The only scouts that go 30/0 are the scrubby cal scouts and heavies are easy to kill if you don't rush em head on like a fool. Even if they have a logi.
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robin williams' ghost
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Posted - 2015.01.07 14:42:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:[quote=robin williams' ghost][quote=Buwaro
You are not seeing my point.
You are crying that you don't want tanks to be better on the field because they can go 30-0 when we have infantry doing the same thing. That is just hypocritical.
And don't bring the "Oh but I have to use a swarm which makes me weak against infantry" well guess what? Using a rifle will make you weak against a tank. Or if you want the best of both worlds run a Commando. Just know that you will be tad slower anda bit bigger.
No, I can see your point, I just think you're full of ****. Too many people spam the hell out of tanks these days, especially in doms, to the point where the entire squad needs to focus on destroying the basterds (misspelled intentionally grammer naazis) anyways by that point the reds have hacked the point and the blueberries have retreated to the redline with their sniper starter fits and the match is lost.
If tanks were limited on the field my opinion may change slightly but until then I firmly say no to nerfing any type of av weapon.
As for the infantry who go 30/0 in a match, they are doing it without an armored box to hide in, so if they're skilled enough to do it, let em. Very few can pull that off consistently anyways, but if you nerf av, tanks will be doing it match after match after match, ah you get the idea.
Btw I also skilled into proto minmando the day it was created and still use it daily. It's possibly my favorite suit.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 15:21:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:[quote=robin williams' ghost][quote=Buwaro
You are not seeing my point.
You are crying that you don't want tanks to be better on the field because they can go 30-0 when we have infantry doing the same thing. That is just hypocritical.
And don't bring the "Oh but I have to use a swarm which makes me weak against infantry" well guess what? Using a rifle will make you weak against a tank. Or if you want the best of both worlds run a Commando. Just know that you will be tad slower anda bit bigger. No, I can see your point, I just think you're full of ****. Too many people spam the hell out of tanks these days, especially in doms, to the point where the entire squad needs to focus on destroying the basterds (misspelled intentionally grammer naazis) anyways by that point the reds have hacked the point and the blueberries have retreated to the redline with their sniper starter fits and the match is lost. If tanks were limited on the field my opinion may change slightly but until then I firmly say no to nerfing any type of av weapon. As for the infantry who go 30/0 in a match, they are doing it without an armored box to hide in, so if they're skilled enough to do it, let em. Very few can pull that off consistently anyways, but if you nerf av, tanks will be doing it match after match after match, ah you get the idea. Btw I also skilled into proto minmando the day it was created and still use it daily. It's possibly my favorite suit. And tanks that pull off 30/0 are not skilled? Have you not seen how many swams appear on the field at the first sight of tank? Yeah. Biased and hypocritical. At least on infantry you can escape. Swarms chase you until they decide to hit a building or dunes. And tank spam? Last time I saw more than 2 tanks per match was like a few weeks ago.
If they go 30/0 in their current state they're skilled, Nerf av though, and every tom **** and Harry will be going 30/0 in their armored fortress. And if you haven't noticed the tank spam as of late you obviously haven't been playing.
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Posted - 2015.01.07 15:53:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Okay, to be fair, Swarms need a nerfbat ******* BAD.
They require the least skill of any weapon in this game, and are the most dangerous.
If this game had ANY logic to it's design, Plasma Cannons would be the most powerful AV. Instead, Plasma Cannon users have to deal with an arc AND slow projectile speed, and their reward for getting hits despite those is to do a pitiful amount of damage while some skill-less Swarm user just holds down R1 three times and then waits through a short reload before doing that again until he runs out of ammo. I see you've never used swarms. It does take skill. If you don't time your shots just right the pilot will simply run off quickly, regen, and come back for another round. Plus swarms barely scratch shield tanks, even at proto. So unless the pilot is an idiot, or you coordinate your attack with another av player, vehicles can be on the verge of invincibility. Why are we even having this conversation again? Wtf I'm only going to say that I have some specialization into swarms on my alt and they do NOT require skill to use. It's total bs to say that they require timing to pull. You just shoot them as quickly as possible before the vehicle runs out of your range. There's nothig more to it.
You said it yourself, shoot till it runs away.
I don't want it to run away I want it to die.
Therefore you have to time your shots with another av player
Now, if you nerf them, especially by an absurd 50 percent swarms will be utterly useless
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