DUST Search - Should I upgrade it?

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Because Amarr love their Scrutch.

Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.=

Big words coming from someone who's first semi-intelligible sentence is the one above.

You spam heavies, they will be countered to the best of my ability.

Incorrect my good sir I spam Amarr suits and lasers. I haven't ran sentinel in weeks as I am having too much fun with assault, logi and commando (got the paladin for christmas xD)

EDIT: I just want you to know that I find it quite interesting that the items you have the most beef with are those that pose the greatest threat to scout spam of which YOU are certainly a part of. Coincidence? I think not...

Ironically, I haven't run scout in about a month and a half.

When I run it, CCP continually nerfs it into oblivion. Therefore, I won't run it, for the greater good of scout kind.

I also find it interesting that the items you protect are ones that promote skilless, campy, scrubby gameplay that involves sitting still and pressing R1 to kill everyone.

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Bone Doc Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:07:00 - [1] - Quote Do I really need to upgrade it from standard lvl ? I keep seeing the top leads most of the time with it(15-0,7-1,23-4 etc..) in ambush but militia is just as good from when I tried it, kills 90% of the suits in pubs with ease before it even overheats,nice tight hipfire,nice charger shot,65 damage per shot,no recoil, and long range Why does this gun have a proto lvl if the std is already good,I dont even have damage modifiers on it and it kills everything or wounds it so badly they can fight again.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3408	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:10:00 - [2] - Quote Because Amarr love their Scrutch. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5368	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:10:00 - [3] - Quote I'm assuming you're talking about the Scrambler Rifle? The Operation skill is beastly. Other than that, if you get rid of shields quicker, it'll allow damage to seep in to armor with the charge shots. The Rapid Reload is also good, but not really necessary for this gun in my opinion. The Fitting Optimization is okay.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4986	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:15:00 - [4] - Quote Go for it (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 507	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:17:00 - [5] - Quote I've thought the same thing about sniper rifles. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 260	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:18:00 - [6] - Quote I say go for it. I don't know how well it functions on a non ammar assault though. CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4310	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:22:00 - [7] - Quote zDemoncake wrote: I say go for it. I don't know how well it functions on a non ammar assault though. I've had mixed results in Gallente assaults. Some matches I've done extremely well and others were so poor I care not to mention. Tho, tbf, I only have operations to one and no other skills invested. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2150	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:32:00 - [8] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.= Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati. I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4987	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:33:00 - [9] - Quote 2Berries wrote: I've thought the same thing about sniper rifles. No, you'll regret it. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Bone Doc Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2015.01.07 05:56:00 - [10] - Quote zDemoncake wrote: I say go for it. I don't know how well it functions on a non ammar assault though. Works fine on none Ammar for me,I thought the overheat would be a obstacle but it really isn't since most die before it even happens and even if it gets to that point the sidearm is always there.

Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2150	Posted - 2015.01.07 06:02:00 - [11] - Quote Bone Doc wrote: zDemoncake wrote: I say go for it. I don't know how well it functions on a non ammar assault though. Works fine on none Ammar for me,I thought the overheat would be a obstacle but it really isn't since most die before it even happens and even if it gets to that point the sidearm is always there. It's a great gun, but the assault version could use some QoL tweaks Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati. I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3409	Posted - 2015.01.07 06:07:00 - [12] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.= Big words coming from someone who's first semi-intelligible sentence is the one above. You spam heavies, they will be countered to the best of my ability. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2151	Posted - 2015.01.07 06:13:00 - [13] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.= Big words coming from someone who's first semi-intelligible sentence is the one above. You spam heavies, they will be countered to the best of my ability. Incorrect my good sir I spam Amarr suits and lasers. I haven't ran sentinel in weeks as I am having too much fun with assault, logi and commando (got the paladin for christmas xD) Heavy weapon parity... When CCP Rattati. I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 103	Posted - 2015.01.07 07:12:00 - [14] - Quote Upgrade it, go prof 3, then go amarr lvl 5 and you'll see a huge difference. One of the best rifle to upgrade IMO. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 655	Posted - 2015.01.07 09:39:00 - [15] - Quote Go for it. Amarr should have atlest one Viziam with him and few minmatar slaves with ammo running around like monekys. Without amarr bonus/Viziam ScR armorr tankers are going to be paint in the arse. So skill it, fit dmg mods and go crazy. No one will stop you. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3414	Posted - 2015.01.08 00:16:00 - [16] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.= Big words coming from someone who's first semi-intelligible sentence is the one above. You spam heavies, they will be countered to the best of my ability. Incorrect my good sir I spam Amarr suits and lasers. I haven't ran sentinel in weeks as I am having too much fun with assault, logi and commando (got the paladin for christmas xD) EDIT: I just want you to know that I find it quite interesting that the items you have the most beef with are those that pose the greatest threat to scout spam of which YOU are certainly a part of. Coincidence? I think not... Ironically, I haven't run scout in about a month and a half. When I run it, CCP continually nerfs it into oblivion. Therefore, I won't run it, for the greater good of scout kind. I also find it interesting that the items you protect are ones that promote skilless, campy, scrubby gameplay that involves sitting still and pressing R1 to kill everyone. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1393	Posted - 2015.01.08 00:28:00 - [17] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I also find it interesting that the items you protect are ones that promote skilless, campy, scrubby gameplay that involves sitting still and pressing R1 to kill everyone. Pssh... Better than freaking bullet hose ACRs and CRs... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 1411	Posted - 2015.01.08 00:31:00 - [18] - Quote Gav: Whereas you press L1. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Join 'T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB' channel
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 824	Posted - 2015.01.08 01:17:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. You're a scout.... How about you actually use a weapon for a while before calling it a crutch? It's a bit more difficult to use than the shotgun. @OP don't, get a Tac AR. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2168	Posted - 2015.01.08 01:20:00 - [20] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Because Amarr love their Scrutch. Big words comin from a RE/SG scout =.= Big words coming from someone who's first semi-intelligible sentence is the one above. You spam heavies, they will be countered to the best of my ability. Incorrect my good sir I spam Amarr suits and lasers. I haven't ran sentinel in weeks as I am having too much fun with assault, logi and commando (got the paladin for christmas xD) EDIT: I just want you to know that I find it quite interesting that the items you have the most beef with are those that pose the greatest threat to scout spam of which YOU are certainly a part of. Coincidence? I think not... Ironically, I haven't run scout in about a month and a half. When I run it, CCP continually nerfs it into oblivion. Therefore, I won't run it, for the greater good of scout kind. I also find it interesting that the items you protect are ones that promote skilless, campy, scrubby gameplay that involves sitting still and pressing R1 to kill everyone. Oh I'm sure you are running the FOTM mk.0 assault by now with bullet dodging super strafe Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 515	Posted - 2015.01.08 01:24:00 - [21] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: 2Berries wrote: I've thought the same thing about sniper rifles. No, you'll regret it. Yup, thats why i haven't. No regrets on th ScR, got it optimized to 3. Been kicking ass with it since before it was OP, then nerfed to what it is now. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 826	Posted - 2015.01.08 01:24:00 - [22] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Oh I'm sure you are running the FOTM mk.0 assault by now with bullet dodging super strafe "Trust in the rust" Don't you know minmatar is hard mode? That's why only a CHOSEN FEW run it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2168	Posted - 2015.01.08 02:29:00 - [23] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Oh I'm sure you are running the FOTM mk.0 assault by now with bullet dodging super strafe "Trust in the rust" Don't you know minmatar is hard mode? That's why only a CHOSEN FEW run it. please its about as hard as running a pre hotfix 1.8 SG galscout(not at all) Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9273	Posted - 2015.01.08 02:35:00 - [24] - Quote Level 5 everything including optimization. No ragrets. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 49	Posted - 2015.01.08 04:04:00 - [25] - Quote Bone Doc wrote: Do I really need to upgrade it from standard lvl ? I keep seeing the top leads most of the time with it(15-0,7-1,23-4 etc..) in ambush but militia is just as good from when I tried it, kills 90% of the suits in pubs with ease before it even overheats,nice tight hipfire,nice charger shot,65 damage per shot,no recoil, and long range Why does this gun have a proto lvl if the std is already good,I dont even have damage modifiers on it and it kills everything or wounds threats so badly they cant fight again. No get yourself a no skill weapon you can super spam while strafing :o CoughCombatRife Its so easy, you wont have to worry about being good Emperor Gucci
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 656	Posted - 2015.01.08 08:24:00 - [26] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Oh I'm sure you are running the FOTM mk.0 assault by now with bullet dodging super strafe "Trust in the rust" Don't you know minmatar is hard mode? That's why only a CHOSEN FEW run it. No sir. Caldari is hard mode. Amarr/gall are great. Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges ] while having good amount of HP/DPS. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 247	Posted - 2015.01.08 08:48:00 - [27] - Quote 2Berries wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: 2Berries wrote: I've thought the same thing about sniper rifles. No, you'll regret it. Yup, thats why i haven't. No regrets on th ScR, got it optimized to 3. Been kicking ass with it since before it was OP, then nerfed to what it is now. Dude before damage profiles, back when we had super sticky aim assist...THAT was op "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1735	Posted - 2015.01.08 09:12:00 - [28] - Quote Mejt0) Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges wrote: while having good amount of HP/DPS. the strafe speed difference between the assaults is so low that is basically nonexistent. we are talking about 5% difference. only the amarr assault has noticeable lower strafe speed.
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 645	Posted - 2015.01.08 10:36:00 - [29] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Mejt0) Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges wrote: while having good amount of HP/DPS. the strafe speed difference between the assaults is so low that is basically nonexistent. we are talking about 5% difference. only the amarr assault has noticeable lower strafe speed. It is noticeable. Scouts don't exactly walk a great deal faster than assaults yet you can notice that. Min assault moves almost as fast as a scout so trust me, it is noticeable.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1735	Posted - 2015.01.08 11:01:00 - [30] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Mejt0) Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges wrote: while having good amount of HP/DPS. the strafe speed difference between the assaults is so low that is basically nonexistent. we are talking about 5% difference. only the amarr assault has noticeable lower strafe speed. It is noticeable. Scouts don't exactly walk a great deal faster than assaults yet you can notice that. Min assault moves almost as fast as a scout so trust me, it is noticeable. I have 3 proto assaults. gallente, min and amarr. the strafe speed difference between gallente and minmatar assault is so small it could aswell be nonexistent. there is no way for the human to see the difference of 5% ingame. do a test yourself, gallente and min assault strafe side by side, you will be suprised. so in short, you are wrong. scouts are a different matter, those are fast as they are supposed to. hit detection is a different story though. beside that, if you think that minmatar assault strafe speed is an issue, what do you think about a kb+m double kincat shotty minmatar assault. no need to strafe when you can do easy 90 degree turns with mouse. sprint shoot sprint shoot you are dead

Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 645	Posted - 2015.01.08 12:47:00 - [31] - Quote I also have those 3 suits. I notice the difference. Scouts aren't a different matter. Min assault moves at almost the same speed. You can notice a scouts strafe speed which is only slightly higher but not an assault. Regardless of the fact its marginal, its still there and it gives an advantage.
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 835	Posted - 2015.01.08 16:28:00 - [32] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Oh I'm sure you are running the FOTM mk.0 assault by now with bullet dodging super strafe "Trust in the rust" Don't you know minmatar is hard mode? That's why only a CHOSEN FEW run it. No sir. Caldari is hard mode. Amarr/gall are great. Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges ] while having good amount of HP/DPS. I know, Im a cal purist, irony is hard to express on the internet i guess. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Bone Doc Commando Perkone Caldari State 9	Posted - 2015.01.09 09:28:00 - [33] - Quote I looked up numbers and it's pretty worth it though I'm afraid the weapon is too strong and it is awaiting it's inevitable damage nerf.Id be hitting close to 71 damage to armor with a protoScr with 2x complex dmg mods if I did go all in,I thought lasers were weak to armor...
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 288	Posted - 2015.01.09 10:57:00 - [34] - Quote Bone Doc wrote: Do I really need to upgrade it from standard lvl ? I keep seeing the top leads most of the time with it(15-0,7-1,23-4 etc..) in ambush but militia is just as good from when I tried it, kills 90% of the suits in pubs with ease before it even overheats,nice tight hipfire,nice charger shot,65 damage per shot,no recoil, and long range Why does this gun have a proto lvl if the std is already good,I dont even have damage modifiers on it and it kills everything or wounds threats so badly they cant fight again. i have lvl 4 proficiency, but i used the militia gun as i enjoy letting full proto suits know that they have been bested by a militia scrub. the reduced ammo does not make much difference in general play. imo its not the gold standard weapon many say it is.....what kills you is always OP. seeing a caldari suit gives me a hard on...... a heavily Armour tanked assault makes me sh1te myself as if i miss a few shots i am either down to my sidearm or worse overheated.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2171	Posted - 2015.01.09 12:09:00 - [35] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Mejt0) Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges wrote: while having good amount of HP/DPS. the strafe speed difference between the assaults is so low that is basically nonexistent. we are talking about 5% difference. only the amarr assault has noticeable lower strafe speed. It is noticeable. Scouts don't exactly walk a great deal faster than assaults yet you can notice that. Min assault moves almost as fast as a scout so trust me, it is noticeable. Faster than an Amarr Scout... Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix 645	Posted - 2015.01.09 12:11:00 - [36] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Mejt0) Minmatar have scout-strafe thing [that means detection problems and magic dodges wrote: while having good amount of HP/DPS. the strafe speed difference between the assaults is so low that is basically nonexistent. we are talking about 5% difference. only the amarr assault has noticeable lower strafe speed. It is noticeable. Scouts don't exactly walk a great deal faster than assaults yet you can notice that. Min assault moves almost as fast as a scout so trust me, it is noticeable. Faster than an Amarr Scout... I know. Its absolutely silly.
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1194	Posted - 2015.01.09 13:29:00 - [37] - Quote I've used the Viziam Scr for over a year and I have no plans to stop using it anytime soon. The best upgrade you can do for the ScR is lvl 5 amarr assault with a Viziam. The ScR is too weak on any other suit now especially against armor tankers. But the other ScR skills are worth lvl 4 at least especially the fitting skill as the ScR is a ***** to fit. The only winner of WWIII will be the cockroaches.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1647	Posted - 2015.01.09 15:36:00 - [38] - Quote Do it and never look back. The ScR is God's will and retribution. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor


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