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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:34:00 -
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Source:
https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap
As we all found out at this point, Simple Trading has been bumped back one month to the 1.1 version of the Next Release. But at the same time, Simple Crafting was bumped up one month to 1.1. So this got me wondering. Is this the beginning of the end of the NPC-dominant market?
If you think about it, we already have the base for Simple Crafting implemented into Uprising 1.10. You need two or more materials to produce an item. In the case of the current update, a Strongbox and a Hacked Encryption Key to produce a rare salvage item.
Of course, there is still the open question of what materials we're talking about here for 1.1. As we all know, District Harvesting is in the backlog of things CCP wants to do but is not listed for when it might arrive. So it's not likely that Simple Crafting will be reliant on Districts anytime soon.
My theory (dons the best tinfoil hat in the New Eden cluster) is that CCP might introduce exotic new materials into the game that might appear randomly as salvage or as rewards for Daily Missions. Either that or use current lower-meta items to create higher-meta items. I don't know. I think I may have to adjust my tinfoil hat a bit. One sec.
/adjusts hat
Ok, so assuming Simple Crafting comes in as indicated on the Trello boards, this will open up practically new careers for players. Right now we see the FW/Daily Mission/Skirmish/Ambush/Domination grinders who work hard for the salvage and their ISK. We'll then see Marketeers who never go into a match ever again and instead make their money buying salvage at wholesale prices and then sell them at marked up price like we see in Eve Online (though not as complex). You'll also see dedicated Industrialists who will likely have connections to wholesalers who can give them materials at bargain prices and then mass produce items needed for the typical grinders.
Did my epic tinfoil hat work?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:38:00 -
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Except who would play not to play? (ie. Who would not care enough to play but care enough to get ISK, therefore being the marketeer?)
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:41:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Except who would play not to play? (ie. Who would not care enough to play but care enough to get ISK, therefore being the marketeer?)
Eve players like me. I play Dust all the time, but I also do marketing, mining, and manufacturing in Eve Online.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:52:00 -
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I think that would appeal to alot of people. And pls dont forget the age ranges of Dust players. Can't wait  |
LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Except who would play not to play? (ie. Who would not care enough to play but care enough to get ISK, therefore being the marketeer?) Eve players like me. I play Dust all the time, but I also do marketing, mining, and manufacturing in Eve Online.
Hmmm... Is DUST ISK more 'valuable' than EvE ISK?
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Denchlad 7
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.01.07 05:00:00 -
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*takes tinfoil hat, adds a bit more tinfoil*
Lets hypothesise some items. For the sake of the variety of styles the suit can be played, I will use the Assault mk.0
The Assault mk.0 has 4 High Slots, 4 Low Slots, 1 Light Weapon, 1 Sidearm, 1 Grenade, and 1 Equipment.
So lets say you would need to salvage
12 Item Slots - for the 12 slots of the suit.
1 Motherboard - for all the modules to be hooked up to?
1 Myofibril Capacitor - for Stamina?
6 Metal Variants - for parts of the suit (2 Arms, 2 Legs, 1 Torso, 1 Head).
x Electronic Capacitors - for boosting the CPU capacity of the suit?
x Storage Devices? - for boosting the PG capacity of the suit?
1 Gyroscope - for maintaining balance while moving at speed or jumping?
x High Powered Capactors - for Shield Modules exclusively?
x Weight Distributor - for transferring the weight of Armor Plates across the suit?
And they could be salvaged onfield and EOM Salvage. Make them quite regular (not Strongbox regular, but not Decryptor Key rare), and maybe add a Skill Tree that increases the likelihood of finding said Salvage - or an Aurum Booster if CCP wish to farm more money out of us.
But - aside from slot modules - allow the suit to be built without certain modules (e.g. 3 High Powered Capacitors meaning you could only run 3 Shield Related Modules, or no Myofibril Capacitor meaning you cant sprint, jump or melee).
These suits would be called something different to Assault mk.0, but racially orientated, perhaps to its creators bloodline?
Custom suits would make the market for CCP explode with people buying Salvage Boosters to build and sell their custom fits. It would be amazing, and make the Marketplace less important.
But, even I know:
*takes tinfoil hat off*
Legion.
(I'll work on this idea further later today and post a seperate thread about it).
"Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?"
Pilot & Assault.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.01.07 05:16:00 -
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Local chat will certainly be lighting up in systems. I have the Mistress standing by various points in New Eden as we speak.
Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.01.07 05:33:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:And they could be salvaged onfield and EOM Salvage. Make them quite regular (not Strongbox regular, but not Decryptor Key rare), and maybe add a Skill Tree that increases the likelihood of finding said Salvage - or an Aurum Booster if CCP wish to farm more money out of us.
LOL NO! If we're going to make the materials that rare to salvage, you might as well not have Simple Crafting at all to begin with. I have 254 Strongboxes in my inventory but only have about 6 keys from grinding Daily Missions without paying AUR for them. Also, I have yet to get a single key from regular salvage and I have been playing since 1.10.
If skill books would affect it, then I want salvage chance to be far higher than that of the keys. And I mean damn far higher. Hell, make them common like the strong boxes. At least the materials will be useful.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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