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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16435	Posted - 2015.01.06 07:58:00 - [1] - Quote Sure tanks don't currently have a role. This doesn't mean they shouldn't have one. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16437	Posted - 2015.01.06 09:14:00 - [2] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Surprised True hasn't came climbing out of his golden HAV dreams. Here, let me give you a reason. ADS: To destroy uplinks and those who will lay more. DS: To transport players from A to B and sometimes to R. (Rooftops :p) HAV: To suppress infantry, destroy vehicles that pester their team and such. LAV: To transport players from A to B. Also for fun. I am a Calscout Knifer so HAVs are kinda important to me. They help their team feel bulletproof and run into doorway where I wait, and when they fail, they become a tasty snack. Removing them would destroy this whole ecosystem. EDIT: He has... but was very disappointing. I have but I'm starting to feel its mildly hypocritical to talk about tanks in a game I don't play anymore........ *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16438	Posted - 2015.01.06 09:42:00 - [3] - Quote Djinn SouI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sure tanks don't currently have a role. This doesn't mean they shouldn't have one. That is also why I asked what tankers believe their role in the battlefield should be. With 0 suggestions or answers to this question... It just makes HAV's pointless. So what should be the point? If you ask me and my ideas wildly differ from other tankers..... I believe the HAV should be in practice on the field a heavily armoured vehicle with a slow firing, long range, high explosive (depending on your turret or its variation) main gun. Ideally tanks would be primarily an Anti Vehicle and Anti Installation (inclusive of CRU, Supply Depot, and other Game Mode specific Objectives) with a lesser focus on shooting at smaller more mobile infantry. On the field a Tank should be several things for its team. One is a mobile gun emplacement able to withstand small arms fire and some AV and deploy its ordinance against entrenched enemy positions so as to dislodge your opponents. Additionally this would encompass the idea of suppression through bombardment. The HAV as it is now has no main gun that is either appropriate or capable of establishing a suppressive presence on the field mainly as a result of the Large Turret mechanics. Only the Large Rail Turret somewhat resembles the main gun of a modern MBT however even then its fire's unquestionably too quickly and lacks any really presence on the field as it has no explosive or kinetic reaction when it's round impacts. I would like to see tanks be able to apply damage through splash as well with effect on infantry ideally being to cause them to seek cover. The second role it should fill is one that is dedicated to establishing ground vehicle control of the map by eliminating smaller vehicles (LAV, MAV, etc) so that infantry can freely move. I'd like to see the cementation of the HAV as the top tier ground based vehicle in the game something that can take a hit and dish it back out without weighting the gameplay to be tankcentric or AV centric. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16438	Posted - 2015.01.06 10:37:00 - [4] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Okay, but adding proto vehicles equals one of two things: either AV balance remains the same and the vehicles receive an irrelevant increase in statistics making the proto not worth having, or proto AV is rebalanced to the dramatically more durable vehicles (I mean, proto infantry can have fully twice as much HP as STD) and STD vehicles get royally screwed. I suppose the answer is to do the latter, but make the PRO vehicles cost millions upon millions, and make proto AV cost a proportionate amount. I <3 MISS u LORHAK Leik if u crai evrytiem. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16447	Posted - 2015.01.06 21:24:00 - [5] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Okay, but adding proto vehicles equals one of two things: either AV balance remains the same and the vehicles receive an irrelevant increase in statistics making the proto not worth having, or proto AV is rebalanced to the dramatically more durable vehicles (I mean, proto infantry can have fully twice as much HP as STD) and STD vehicles get royally screwed. I suppose the answer is to do the latter, but make the PRO vehicles cost millions upon millions, and make proto AV cost a proportionate amount. Or **** tiers tiercide. Look where tiericide landed us Godin......... *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16448	Posted - 2015.01.06 22:09:00 - [6] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zindorak wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP wrote: Interesting my good sir! Very interesting indeed! Lol. Swarms are pretty good atm so that renders ADS's or Tanks useless Have you seen what a properly fit Gunnlogi does to swarms? Answer: Eats them for breakfast and then has the swarmer as dessert. Properly fit Gunnlogi? You mean the swarms that halt the regen with 2 hardeners on? lol Stop using MLT and expect it to make a tank explode in one volley. Except the Gunnlogi can eat those swarms for breakfast even with one hardener and regen through a portion of that damage at range or ideally if you are using cover properly whenever it wishes. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16449	Posted - 2015.01.06 22:41:00 - [7] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Except the Gunnlogi can eat those swarms for breakfast even with one hardener and regen through a portion of that damage at range or ideally if you are using cover properly whenever it wishes. No, that's incorrect. Swarms stop my regen, no matter. I never said they didn't only that 4 second delay is so manageable that you barely need pay it any heed. By the time you have left the combat zone you are already in the process of charging. By the time you reach cover (assuming you are not in it and why you wouldn't be I don't know) you are recharging or have recharged. Hell sometimes in between Swarm Volleys you might even get a pulse or two off..... *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16449	Posted - 2015.01.06 22:52:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: True Adamance wrote: Except the Gunnlogi can eat those swarms for breakfast even with one hardener and regen through a portion of that damage at range or ideally if you are using cover properly whenever it wishes. No, that's incorrect. Swarms stop my regen, no matter. I never said they didn't only that 4 second delay is so manageable that you barely need pay it any heed. By the time you have left the combat zone you are already in the process of charging. By the time you reach cover (assuming you are not in it and why you wouldn't be I don't know) you are recharging or have recharged. Hell sometimes in between Swarm Volleys you might even get a pulse or two off..... By the time I've left the combat zone, they're almost ready to fire a 4th volley at me. And you are typically well on your way back to full HP. That's not how a tank should function. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16667	Posted - 2015.01.19 00:49:00 - [9] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Vehicles are stupid and boring right now, but they should be fixed, not removed. Games that get vehicles right like battlefield vietnam result in some of the most fun Ive ever had without your mom being in the room. Looks awesome..... love them single shot main guns. So satisfying to get kills with. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.

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