DUST Search - making tsnkers happy

Harpyja wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

shaman oga wrote:

In 1.6 i was happier.
I just need a time machine.

I did my best work in 1.6

Because Madrugars were OP and armor reps and shield boosters were bugged forever in armor's favor.

Real tanking was with a Gunnlogi/Falchion and missiles. Madrugars and blasters were just simply god-mode and only required knowing how to activate an armor rep and point and shoot with a blaster (you can't deny that the fact that the blaster was OP; it was the best turret for both AV and AI)

That's debatable.I'll be the first to admit the Shield Boosters weren't good, they were a good 100 rep per pulse less than armour variants but I always found my Sica and Gunnlogi were competitive enough, though I'll admit the Blaster was a little out of line in some respects.

It's never really been appropriate for main turret gun on an MBT. However nowadays the be all end all of turrets is the missile turret. It's essentially the blaster of 1.6.

Prior to 1.6 I'd have said it was OP on marauders and enforcers who got 20% buffs on top of the old hybrid damage mods which affected damage and rof and could exceed 200 damage per shot....it's now replaced by missiles which are also inappropriate for MBT turrets.

However the best thing about the old days were the blaster duels on similarly fit tanks. It all came back to how you used you modules.

Still I never counted out the Shield HAV. Ladwar our old shield tanker from back in the day was incredible with his rail tanks.

Shield boosters also only pulsed about three times less frequently than armor reps did.

I also wouldn't really call missiles the be all end all of turrets. You might not like certain aspects of them but I would call them fairly balanced. They really only excel at busting other tanks within CQC, otherwise at any other range you can no longer rapid fire them since you lose a lot of accuracy and thus their effectiveness drops rather quickly. Railguns are still king of AV at long range and I still switch to my particle cannon for taking out other shield HAVs, even at CQC

And I know we have differing opinions on large blasters so I'm not going to go there.

*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16427	Posted - 2015.01.05 22:28:00 - [1] - Quote Nah but I do think some changes to how tanks function at this current time to make them fill ideally a more important role on the field without impacting severely on infantry gameplay. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16428	Posted - 2015.01.05 23:19:00 - [2] - Quote shaman oga wrote: In 1.6 i was happier. I just need a time machine. I did my best work in 1.6 *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16428	Posted - 2015.01.05 23:45:00 - [3] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Put in a better working AI turret. Also, don't force people to run large turrets. I'd like to drive my tank around with just a small rail gun. Wow....... just no....just please no...... *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16429	Posted - 2015.01.06 00:21:00 - [4] - Quote H0riz0n Unlimit wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: In 1.6 i was happier. I just need a time machine. I did my best work in 1.6 You make me feel nostalgic bro, they stole my maddy :( My best games came in the last 3 days of 1.6 My 52/1 was the only one I had the piece of mind to capture and t was vs a corporate squad basically sortieing on to C from D on Line Harvest. But I also got some other good scores. 32/0, 48/2, 66/0. 3 Falchion Kills in a " The Little Soma that Could" while dropping my own Orbital Strikes. Rolling the LSHAV and zipping around the map doing hit and runs in the Scout Tank..... So many good times. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16429	Posted - 2015.01.06 00:28:00 - [5] - Quote Harpyja wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: In 1.6 i was happier. I just need a time machine. I did my best work in 1.6 Because Madrugars were OP and armor reps and shield boosters were bugged forever in armor's favor. Real tanking was with a Gunnlogi/Falchion and missiles. Madrugars and blasters were just simply god-mode and only required knowing how to activate an armor rep and point and shoot with a blaster (you can't deny that the fact that the blaster was OP; it was the best turret for both AV and AI) That's debatable.I'll be the first to admit the Shield Boosters weren't good, they were a good 100 rep per pulse less than armour variants but I always found my Sica and Gunnlogi were competitive enough, though I'll admit the Blaster was a little out of line in some respects. It's never really been appropriate for main turret gun on an MBT. However nowadays the be all end all of turrets is the missile turret. It's essentially the blaster of 1.6. Prior to 1.6 I'd have said it was OP on marauders and enforcers who got 20% buffs on top of the old hybrid damage mods which affected damage and rof and could exceed 200 damage per shot....it's now replaced by missiles which are also inappropriate for MBT turrets. However the best thing about the old days were the blaster duels on similarly fit tanks. It all came back to how you used you modules. Still I never counted out the Shield HAV. Ladwar our old shield tanker from back in the day was incredible with his rail tanks. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16429	Posted - 2015.01.06 01:04:00 - [6] - Quote Harpyja wrote: True Adamance wrote: Harpyja wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: In 1.6 i was happier. I just need a time machine. I did my best work in 1.6 Because Madrugars were OP and armor reps and shield boosters were bugged forever in armor's favor. Real tanking was with a Gunnlogi/Falchion and missiles. Madrugars and blasters were just simply god-mode and only required knowing how to activate an armor rep and point and shoot with a blaster (you can't deny that the fact that the blaster was OP; it was the best turret for both AV and AI) That's debatable.I'll be the first to admit the Shield Boosters weren't good, they were a good 100 rep per pulse less than armour variants but I always found my Sica and Gunnlogi were competitive enough, though I'll admit the Blaster was a little out of line in some respects. It's never really been appropriate for main turret gun on an MBT. However nowadays the be all end all of turrets is the missile turret. It's essentially the blaster of 1.6. Prior to 1.6 I'd have said it was OP on marauders and enforcers who got 20% buffs on top of the old hybrid damage mods which affected damage and rof and could exceed 200 damage per shot....it's now replaced by missiles which are also inappropriate for MBT turrets. However the best thing about the old days were the blaster duels on similarly fit tanks. It all came back to how you used you modules. Still I never counted out the Shield HAV. Ladwar our old shield tanker from back in the day was incredible with his rail tanks. Shield boosters also only pulsed about three times less frequently than armor reps did. I also wouldn't really call missiles the be all end all of turrets. You might not like certain aspects of them but I would call them fairly balanced. They really only excel at busting other tanks within CQC, otherwise at any other range you can no longer rapid fire them since you lose a lot of accuracy and thus their effectiveness drops rather quickly. Railguns are still king of AV at long range and I still switch to my particle cannon for taking out other shield HAVs, even at CQC And I know we have differing opinions on large blasters so I'm not going to go there. I'm sorry but I stopped using missiles because A they are so easy and powerful to use I honestly felt dirty making use of them, and B they are not tank appropriate weapons. 539.5 * 12 = 6474 and currently if I am not mistaken use the Projectile damage profile. w/ a Damage Amplifier thats 593.5 12 = 7222 That's 3956.66 DPS unmodified, 4550 vs armour, and 3363.16 DPS vs armour. They invalidate armour tanks. They are incredibly effective vs Shield Tanks, more so than the Blaster (an Anti Shield weapon)\ Have the highest DPS of all turrets Snipes Infantry like the only Blasters could Basically usually fielded to counter my Gunnlogi once I've destroyed a couple of enemy tanks (anecdotal) "He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16432	Posted - 2015.01.06 01:59:00 - [7] - Quote Lupus Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: That's 3956.66 DPS unmodified, 4550 vs armour, and 3363.16 DPS vs shield. Sorry, FTFY Thankyou. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16432	Posted - 2015.01.06 02:43:00 - [8] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Put in a better working AI turret. Also, don't force people to run large turrets. I'd like to drive my tank around with just a small rail gun. Wow....... just no....just please no...... Just saying, allow you to fit a small turret in a large slot. Not force people. Allows more fits. Then you are not driving a tank. You are driving an MAV (or essentially and LAV in terms of modern vehicles). *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16433	Posted - 2015.01.06 03:49:00 - [9] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Put in a better working AI turret. Also, don't force people to run large turrets. I'd like to drive my tank around with just a small rail gun. Wow....... just no....just please no...... Just saying, allow you to fit a small turret in a large slot. Not force people. Allows more fits. Then you are not driving a tank. You are driving an MAV (or essentially and LAV in terms of modern vehicles). Or, you're driving a tank with an lmg? HAV - Heavy Armoured/Assault Vehicle The gun has no say in the size and weight of the vehicle, ie: the heavy part is weight. I said nothing about the abysmally balanced HAV and its poorly defined role. I said Tank. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16454	Posted - 2015.01.07 03:42:00 - [10] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Harpyja wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: In 1.6 i was happier. I just need a time machine. I did my best work in 1.6 Because Madrugars were OP and armor reps and shield boosters were bugged forever in armor's favor. Real tanking was with a Gunnlogi/Falchion and missiles. Madrugars and blasters were just simply god-mode and only required knowing how to activate an armor rep and point and shoot with a blaster (you can't deny that the fact that the blaster was OP; it was the best turret for both AV and AI) Yep, madru was the cqc king, but rail had 600 meters range, we all knew what we were doing at the time. But i must agree, madrugar was far more versatile than gunlogi at the time. But people underestimated how powerful a Glass Gunnlogi was (Sagaris was even more powerful. +20% Turret damage and several damage mod slots while still able to have a fairly solid shield tank. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.