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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:26:00 -
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Bri Bub wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Bri Bub wrote:I played 25 or more matches yesterday including a PC match and heck if it wasn't in 80% of the battles that I commented to myself, "Man that dude that turned in mid-aid was OP! How do I counter that move?"
In reality I have never thought this and I have been playing DUST 514 since April 2013. Why is this a problem and what will addressing it fix? use a mass driver.. they cant jump higher than the splash smh 
it's still a better and more accessible idea than nerfing the game even more.. you asked how and i provided a solution currently in the game to handle it.. i should be the one smhing..
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:27:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Why the hate about turning in the air?
All the things that need FIx and THIS is what ppl come with?
*Jumped into thread*
*read thread*
*Turn Mid air*
Im gone. no strafe, no turning in mid air, nerfed back pedal... .they want ball and musket firing lines in dust Now that is just silly. I'd be happy with some form of happy median, all of the arcadey BS that all the kids say should be included because video game is just silly. OTOH though, your claims about ball and musket firing lines in Dust is equally as silly. Too many extremists on this forum, where have all the moderates gone? well it is a twitch based shooter.. to change that aspect would be quite an undertaking and complete rebalance of everything.. the few PC tactical shooters out there that are not arcadey are very niche populations.. you can't really have that on console and expect any kind of population outside of a handful of neckbeards.. it's probably why Bad Company 2 has rested in the bargain bin for this long, there wasn't enough dance involved for the console crowd.
I don't think bringing it more to the middle ground rather than to either extreme would be that difficult. The trouble would be finding that sweet spot that wasn't overly arcadey while not strictly a sci-fi military sim (though I wouldn't mind that at all, I understand that it is an extreme position and not everyone will agree with me).
Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks)
^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:@ Tebow
Dust is decidedly NOT a twitch based shooter...
ok well it is what it is.. i will leave you ppl in peace to discuss the nerf proposal because ive spoke mine.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Bri Bub
Eternal Beings
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:31:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Bri Bub wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Bri Bub wrote:I played 25 or more matches yesterday including a PC match and heck if it wasn't in 80% of the battles that I commented to myself, "Man that dude that turned in mid-aid was OP! How do I counter that move?"
In reality I have never thought this and I have been playing DUST 514 since April 2013. Why is this a problem and what will addressing it fix? use a mass driver.. they cant jump higher than the splash smh it's still a better and more accessible idea than nerfing the game even more.. you asked how and i provided a solution currently in the game to handle it.. i should be the one smhing..
I was talking to myself in 80% of the matches where I never asked myself why what isn't a problem isn't a problem, so...
smh
Be just and if you can't be just be arbitrary.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2015.01.05 22:39:00 -
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Bri Bub wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Bri Bub wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Bri Bub wrote:I played 25 or more matches yesterday including a PC match and heck if it wasn't in 80% of the battles that I commented to myself, "Man that dude that turned in mid-aid was OP! How do I counter that move?"
In reality I have never thought this and I have been playing DUST 514 since April 2013. Why is this a problem and what will addressing it fix? use a mass driver.. they cant jump higher than the splash smh it's still a better and more accessible idea than nerfing the game even more.. you asked how and i provided a solution currently in the game to handle it.. i should be the one smhing.. I was talking to myself in 80% of the matches where I never asked myself why what isn't a problem isn't a problem, so... smh
sorry my mail order bride just refused to have seks with me again and it affects my reading comprehension
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:24:00 -
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i think i'm just finding it annoying people flying around the map unnaturally like gravity doesn't exist. a player can literally run through the air for 10-15m at 11ms and land on his feet like nothing happened yet if he fell that distance at a slower speed he would sustain damage. now things are little more balanced these things we never noticed before are becoming more obvious.
next time you see a scout or speed logistics long jump about 10-15m or so watch as they glide gently through the air like batman and also look out for the random direction changes out of nowhere which are physically impossible to do and ask yourself, is that an acceptable mechanic.
All Hail Legion
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:41:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:i think i'm just finding it annoying people flying around the map unnaturally like gravity doesn't exist. a player can literally run through the air for 10-15m at 11ms and land on his feet like nothing happened yet if he fell that distance at a slower speed he would sustain damage. now things are little more balanced these things we never noticed before are becoming more obvious.
next time you see a scout or speed logistics long jump about 10-15m or so watch as they glide gently through the air like batman and also look out for the random direction changes out of nowhere which are physically impossible to do and ask yourself, is that an acceptable mechanic.
Inertia controllers allow the kind of inertialess strafing we see. However, they only help on user initiated commands. Unforeseen impacts and inertia cause huge damage as the inertia controllers over compensate for the sudden impact.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:49:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:would fix a lot of issues.
there needs to a threshold at which point you are no longer able to turn until you land. at the same time stopping a turn mid flight should also be stopped. lets say 0.5 secs after jumping and instigating a turn
Not sure aht issues this would fix. Elaborate and maybe you will convince people (not me though - I think it should remain in game, assuming you are talking about people turning mid jump but I'm not sure if this is what you mean as vague post is vague)
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.01.06 01:52:00 -
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But what about when I'm engaged in CQC and I want to run up a little hill so I can starship trooper some bum |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.06 04:23:00 -
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No turning in mid air? I mean....who complains about this??
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1505
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Posted - 2015.01.06 04:34:00 -
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What problems would this solve? |
Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1904
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Posted - 2015.01.06 05:16:00 -
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Remove all jumping mechanics.
The horror! The horror!
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
113
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Posted - 2015.01.06 06:36:00 -
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Hahaha minjas already do the jump sailing though the sky shoot you in the face with a ACR at 11m/sec. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.01.06 07:06:00 -
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It wouldn't "fix"anything, and would bring more problems to the table.
We rejoiced when we could control where we land during jumps when Super Castlevania IV came, taking that away is like going back to Simon's Quest. It's the same deal with this game. |
Breakin Stuff
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:45:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Too many extremists on this forum, where have all the moderates gone?
Goonfeet quit.
I'm the last of the moderates, still concerned with balance
Most people simply assume I'm representative of the opposite end of the extremist when I tell them that they are smoking crack.
But to answer the OP what you're saying is that physics needs to be nerfed?
This troll would be ragingly obvious but you all fell for it.
5/10 for slipping under the radar obvious troll.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:06:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Too many extremists on this forum, where have all the moderates gone?
Goonfeet quit. I'm the last of the moderates, still concerned with balance Most people simply assume I'm representative of the opposite end of the extremist when I tell them that they are smoking crack. But to answer the OP what you're saying is that physics needs to be nerfed? This troll would be ragingly obvious but you all fell for it. 5/10 for slipping under the radar obvious troll.
I'm more of a moderate than you might first think.
Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks)
^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
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Breakin Stuff
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:45:00 -
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Different ideas on how to approach a problem is not indicative of extremism unless those ideas always push a singular goal at all times.
Av should be worthless vs. AV always wins is the most common level of extremism.
If an extremist doesn't see you preaching in lockstep with is goals he starts screaming the usual disruptive dogmatic B.S.
We have examples of this all over the forums where any nerf to a favored playstyle, no matter how trivial or needed, or a buff to anyone else's playstyle is "ruining the game."
It's idiotic, it's childish and it stopped being funny back in 1.4.
It's why I'm relieved when people take a break from sh*tposting occasionally and start getting down to business.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Zindorak
Nyain Chan
General Tso's Alliance
1579
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:45:00 -
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No
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1862
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Posted - 2015.01.06 15:50:00 -
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the problem is that a player can jump over another while never breaking visual with the enemy constantly shooting and land behind them long before that other player has the chance to turn around on the spot and retaliate. they cannot even follow them through the jump which to me makes jumping over a player uncounterable.
its not just this thats the issue. tbh i have zero problem with speed or people jumping over obstacles to get behind me and shoot me in the back. not an issue. what i do have an issue with is those players that just run straight at you knowing most shots will not register on you due to speed and that player constantly shooting then jumping over you still shooting and landing still shooting having not missed a single shot. there is too much control afforded us during jumps which we would not get during RL which with the current speed shots registering issues means some players are virtually invincible when they shouldn't and landing kill shots on targets that should have destroyed them.
a scout charging a hmg should die, a scout sneaking up on a heavy should get a kill. what shouldn't be the case is a scout or any other fast suit charging a group of enemies, jumping over them at speed and picking them off through the air.
All Hail Legion
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Skullmiser Vulcansu
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Posted - 2015.01.06 17:24:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
a scout charging a hmg should die, a scout sneaking up on a heavy should get a kill. what shouldn't be the case is a scout or any other fast suit charging a group of enemies, jumping over them at speed and picking them off through the air.
While in medium suits, I usually have precision just good enough to tell me when a scout is right behind me, so I tend to sprint, Jump, and spin around while in the air so that I have a chance to kill the scout and I usually do-sometimes even when they actually hit me with a shotgun. I would have a much worse time with scouts if I could not rotate while airborne.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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