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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1994
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Posted - 2015.01.04 22:08:00 -
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So Spkr has something to ***** about.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1999
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Posted - 2015.01.04 23:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:So Spkr has something to ***** about. Point out where I'm wrong or stating a falsehood.
The part where you say tanks are paper.
Tanks are very much the LEAST paper thing in the entire game. They have far and beyond the highest TTK of all player bought items in the entire game.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2011
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:So Spkr has something to ***** about. Point out where I'm wrong or stating a falsehood. The part where you say tanks are paper. Tanks are very much the LEAST paper thing in the entire game. They have far and beyond the highest TTK of all player bought items in the entire game. lol Guy says tanks aren't paper, doesn't get in the pilot's seat. You say they're not paper because they have the most raw HP in the game. You don't factor in how much damage AV does against vehicles. As I've said before, a single Minmando nearly wiped out my tank in just volleys. That's not balanced. "Highest TTK" lol Get in a tank and find out for yourself; you have to accept the death though, no jumping out. And do that for a whole match, nothing but stay in a tank.
They do in fact have the highest TTK.
Even the worst tank will take 7-9 seconds of continuous fire or ambush preparation to kill. That's a shitfit tank.
A decent one can take 12-16 seconds.
The TTK on suits is like 2.5-3.0 seconds at best. Half a second is often the case though.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2011
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:15:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:So Spkr has something to ***** about. Point out where I'm wrong or stating a falsehood. The part where you say tanks are paper. Tanks are very much the LEAST paper thing in the entire game. They have far and beyond the highest TTK of all player bought items in the entire game. Unless you count a heavy being repped... But I guess not.
Unless there are like 2-3 logis on them with a repair tools, they'll still die in 4-5 seconds under constant fire from just a basic AR.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2021
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Posted - 2015.01.05 18:37:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:They do in fact have the highest TTK. Even the worst tank will take 7-9 seconds of continuous fire or ambush preparation to kill. That's a shitfit tank. A decent one can take 12-16 seconds. The TTK on suits is like 2.5-3.0 seconds at best. Half a second is often the case though. You're basing that on total HP, which is a stupid argument. "Ambush preparation." As if that's difficult. It doesn't even require teamwork. A field of Boundless and F/45 remotes with swarms and AV grenades, and that's a dead tank. There, I just figured out how to destroy a tank in close quarters for you.
No I'm not basing it on just total HP. I'm basing it on how long it would take to kill something under continuous fire from a spectrum of weapons. So no, not really a stupid arguement.
Ambush preparation is often more difficult than just shooting swarms, if not consistently more difficult. And it does indeed require teamwork now, unless a Logi is used. So yeah. Bandwidth bruh.
But really, if someone sets up an ambush and throws ALL their AV at you, you'd still be salty about it?! Really?
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2296
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Posted - 2015.01.18 18:15:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:They do in fact have the highest TTK. Even the worst tank will take 7-9 seconds of continuous fire or ambush preparation to kill. That's a shitfit tank. A decent one can take 12-16 seconds. The TTK on suits is like 2.5-3.0 seconds at best. Half a second is often the case though. You're basing that on total HP, which is a stupid argument. "Ambush preparation." As if that's difficult. It doesn't even require teamwork. A field of Boundless and F/45 remotes with swarms and AV grenades, and that's a dead tank. There, I just figured out how to destroy a tank in close quarters for you. No I'm not basing it on just total HP. I'm basing it on how long it would take to kill something under continuous fire from a spectrum of weapons. So no, not really a stupid arguement. Ambush preparation is often more difficult than just shooting swarms, if not consistently more difficult. And it does indeed require teamwork now, unless a Logi is used. So yeah. Bandwidth bruh. But really, if someone sets up an ambush and throws ALL their AV at you, you'd still be salty about it?! Really? OF COURSE an ambush is more complex than firing your YOLO swarms. Where did I say I get angry if infantry uses teamwork to take me down? Look at my 'On Vehicles' thread, the national corps like the Japanese, Russians, Spanish, Polish have absolutely no problem dedicating 4 or their whole squad to AV. Two will use proxies and AV, the rest will just use AV. The problem is people like you insisting on being able to solo vehicles with little effort required.
Thing is. Soloing a vehicle isn't "little effort required", despite what you'd like to think.
It still takes more effort to kill a vehicle than it does to kill any dropsuit.
It either takes planning, an ambush, or perseverance, and a specialized weapon, which is more than any other roles take to kill. Just mindlessly shooting at a vehicle won't work unless the pilot is ****.
And why shouldn't an AV player be able to solo a vehicle? 1 player = 1 player, regardless of their chosen playstyle. I've yet to hear a well reasoned arguement against this.
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