DUST Search - Why are tanks here?

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

They do in fact have the highest TTK.
Even the worst tank will take 7-9 seconds of continuous fire or ambush preparation to kill. That's a shitfit tank.
A decent one can take 12-16 seconds.

The TTK on suits is like 2.5-3.0 seconds at best. Half a second is often the case though.

You're basing that on total HP, which is a stupid argument.

"Ambush preparation." As if that's difficult. It doesn't even require teamwork. A field of Boundless and F/45 remotes with swarms and AV grenades, and that's a dead tank.

There, I just figured out how to destroy a tank in close quarters for you.

No I'm not basing it on just total HP. I'm basing it on how long it would take to kill something under continuous fire from a spectrum of weapons. So no, not really a stupid arguement.

Ambush preparation is often more difficult than just shooting swarms, if not consistently more difficult. And it does indeed require teamwork now, unless a Logi is used. So yeah. Bandwidth bruh.

But really, if someone sets up an ambush and throws ALL their AV at you, you'd still be salty about it?! Really?

OF COURSE an ambush is more complex than firing your YOLO swarms.

Where did I say I get angry if infantry uses teamwork to take me down? Look at my 'On Vehicles' thread, the national corps like the Japanese, Russians, Spanish, Polish have absolutely no problem dedicating 4 or their whole squad to AV. Two will use proxies and AV, the rest will just use AV.

The problem is people like you insisting on being able to solo vehicles with little effort required.

Thing is. Soloing a vehicle isn't "little effort required", despite what you'd like to think.
It still takes more effort to kill a vehicle than it does to kill any dropsuit.
It either takes planning, an ambush, or perseverance, and a specialized weapon, which is more than any other roles take to kill. Just mindlessly shooting at a vehicle won't work unless the pilot is ****.

And why shouldn't an AV player be able to solo a vehicle? 1 player = 1 player, regardless of their chosen playstyle. I've yet to hear a well reasoned arguement against this.


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Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1650	Posted - 2015.01.24 18:50:00 - [1] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: The only real questions are: why are there militia tanks? Why are you using them? With av how it is now there's not much difference between Mlt and standard tanks. The price. Unless you are a pussybitch red line rail you will most likely explode. Why throw money away when tank battles are won by outmaneuvering and waiting out hardeners? Crush them
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1650	Posted - 2015.01.24 18:52:00 - [2] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: They do in fact have the highest TTK. Even the worst tank will take 7-9 seconds of continuous fire or ambush preparation to kill. That's a shitfit tank. A decent one can take 12-16 seconds. The TTK on suits is like 2.5-3.0 seconds at best. Half a second is often the case though. You're basing that on total HP, which is a stupid argument. "Ambush preparation." As if that's difficult. It doesn't even require teamwork. A field of Boundless and F/45 remotes with swarms and AV grenades, and that's a dead tank. There, I just figured out how to destroy a tank in close quarters for you. No I'm not basing it on just total HP. I'm basing it on how long it would take to kill something under continuous fire from a spectrum of weapons. So no, not really a stupid arguement. Ambush preparation is often more difficult than just shooting swarms, if not consistently more difficult. And it does indeed require teamwork now, unless a Logi is used. So yeah. Bandwidth bruh. But really, if someone sets up an ambush and throws ALL their AV at you, you'd still be salty about it?! Really? OF COURSE an ambush is more complex than firing your YOLO swarms. Where did I say I get angry if infantry uses teamwork to take me down? Look at my 'On Vehicles' thread, the national corps like the Japanese, Russians, Spanish, Polish have absolutely no problem dedicating 4 or their whole squad to AV. Two will use proxies and AV, the rest will just use AV. The problem is people like you insisting on being able to solo vehicles with little effort required. Thing is. Soloing a vehicle isn't "little effort required", despite what you'd like to think. It still takes more effort to kill a vehicle than it does to kill any dropsuit. It either takes planning, an ambush, or perseverance, and a specialized weapon, which is more than any other roles take to kill. Just mindlessly shooting at a vehicle won't work unless the pilot is ****. And why shouldn't an AV player be able to solo a vehicle? 1 player = 1 player, regardless of their chosen playstyle. I've yet to hear a well reasoned arguement against this. Bullshit. It takes dren swarms. Crush them