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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:34:00 -
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Heavy mashine guns are not OP the problem is the rage from the hmgs i dead in 40m rage from the hmg.I know ' the rage is okay for a hmg but the damage from this rage is OP i have get 3000damage in 40m! Rage.This need a fix.
Commando clan: Your commando Your game!
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Ablerober
Mass Defect Binding Energy
237
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:37:00 -
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Commander of Black wrote:Heavy mashine guns are not OP the problem is the rage from the hmgs i dead in 40m rage from the hmg.I know ' the rage is okay for a hmg but the damage from this rage is OP i have get 3000damage in 40m! Rage.
I rarely play heavy these days, as I'm fed up of being shotgunned in the back by scouts.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:39:00 -
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Range not rage. Seriously what is up with spelling and grammar on the forums today?
I think it is not so much of an issue that heavies or HMG's are OP it's just that an abnormally large population of players are running proto heavy suits with boundless HMG's with proto logistics and Proto rep tools behind them. Unless you are very skilled and/or you are running proto or high tier advanced gear you will easily be taken out.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:42:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Range not rage. Seriously what is up with spelling and grammar on the forums today?
I think it is not so much of an issue that heavies or HMG's are OP it's just that an abnormally large population of players are running proto heavy suits with boundless HMG's with proto logistics and Proto rep tools behind them. Unless you are very skilled and/or you are running proto or high tier advanced gear you will easily be taken out.
English isn't his first language you ignorant pleb, he's German. Ever thought that more than one nationality exists throughout the planet?
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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
13
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:44:00 -
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XD sry i have edit it.^^ Ach the german forums are bad here is it better to get posts.
Commando clan: Your commando Your game!
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Henrietta Unknown
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
711
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:46:00 -
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Yes, the range is the primary issue. I can't down a Sentinel with an ARR, because he got to half armor and decided to gank my shield suit at some 40 meters in open terrain.
20 or so deaths just because of underestimating the HMG's range. They say the Sentinel can't defend itself from rifle users, but when the HMG has the range of an AR or ARR, how can they be so sure?
Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
869
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:53:00 -
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Commander of Black wrote:Heavy mashine guns are not OP the problem is the rage from the hmgs i dead in 40m rage from the hmg.I know ' the rage is okay for a hmg but the damage from this rage is OP i have get 3000damage in 40m! Rage.This need a fix.
Oki after that thread of yours before (about kicking some boyo) i know you are defo newbie here.
There is some points for you.
Find what weapon is best suited for you by your playstyle.
There is some basics:
RR (rail rifle) - great for long range - automatic precision rifle / carefull it is precision rifle do not use cqc
AR (assault rifle) - good for everything - fully auto rifle / no cons by me over all
CR (combat rifle) - burst action one - fully speced its a beast / slighly looses against shields
ScR (scramble rifle) - one push one shot - here we go LAZORS great against shields, fully speced killing beast with its charged alpha / no cons by me but slighly hard to use for newbies
Be really carefull about the race and specialization, there is some bonuses for assaults etc.
And finally our issue with MG, fully speced machinegun is beast even on republic mutation (low level/damage version).
Be really carefull what class you choosing for fight, if you are on mlt. suit you propably dont have chance.
Try to shoot more from long range (stagger fire recomended for rifles without charge built - low recoil).
If you lost shield and you do not playing armor suit, run.
Be cooperative, this is not rambo CoD action if you are alone you will die alone.
Find some group (i see you are in clan) and play like group!
"We build from rust"
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
176
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:54:00 -
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Yeah the range is ridiculous but once I tried using a heavy yesterday and could not take out an Amarr Assault doing a figure 8 and using a Scrambler rifle. I bet he was using a modded controller. I thought I was using a shield heavy but it was an armor heavy and he did over 1000 damage in like 3 seconds. Thats the real problem with dust
1 Heavies cant kill at point blank range and complain that the suit is underpowered but they lost to a modded controller
2 Medium suits cant kill a heavy because of hit detection issues and say lets nerf the heavy. I have used a breach shotgun at pointblank range at a heavy and nothing happened. I fired two shots. I normally take out 80% of most heavies eHP with one shot since I get really close, but should I ask for a heavy nerf? No I wont because thats not the issue.
I do agree about the range of the HMG though. It makes the assault heavy machine good seem beastly but nobody seems to be using it and you are dying from 30+ m haha
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
869
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Range not rage. Seriously what is up with spelling and grammar on the forums today?
I think it is not so much of an issue that heavies or HMG's are OP it's just that an abnormally large population of players are running proto heavy suits with boundless HMG's with proto logistics and Proto rep tools behind them. Unless you are very skilled and/or you are running proto or high tier advanced gear you will easily be taken out.
Maybe because whole bunch of them are not native english speakers (like me or example).
I running sentinel if there is no cover on point mostly, but i have bigger issue with ridclou shotties, than MGs.
"We build from rust"
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2863
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:08:00 -
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Commander of Black wrote:XD sry i have edit it.^^ Ach the german forums are bad here is it better to get posts.
Don't worry. You wouldn't want to see him attempt to make a post on the German forums :p Let alone with perfect spelling and grammar...  |
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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
14
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:11:00 -
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I play this game two years im not a noob and i run always with two squads.
Commando clan: Your commando Your game!
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
870
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:14:00 -
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Commander of Black wrote:I play this game two years im not a noob and i run always with two squads.
Im here since beta and im still newbie with some things ;)
What is your primarly used suit ergo what is role what you mostly play.
"We build from rust"
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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
14
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:18:00 -
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I use now adv amarr assault with imperial scrambler riffle i skill it of 5 in the next weeks... and i have difficult suit fittings.
Commando clan: Your commando Your game!
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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
14
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:23:00 -
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I have all suits xD and my favorite is now amarr assault because the scrambler give the enemys very much damage i play sometimes minamatar assault with CR and i play sometimes the RR assault ^^.
Commando clan: Your commando Your game!
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
871
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:25:00 -
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There are some threads about fitting what you can use i pressume, try search them.
But i still think, like assault and with ScR you defo have bigger chance to take HS user with MG down, just do not go near him.
And helvete you are even faster then he is.
"We build from rust"
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
672
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:33:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Range not rage. Seriously what is up with spelling and grammar on the forums today?
I think it is not so much of an issue that heavies or HMG's are OP it's just that an abnormally large population of players are running proto heavy suits with boundless HMG's with proto logistics and Proto rep tools behind them. Unless you are very skilled and/or you are running proto or high tier advanced gear you will easily be taken out. English isn't his first language you ignorant pleb, he's German. Ever thought that more than one nationality exists throughout the planet?
Don't you know English speaking ppl can't grasp the fact that the majority of the world don't even speek English.
And they don't even recognise the effort others do to speek it.
So yeah ignorant sums it up
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5627
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:39:00 -
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Commander of Black wrote:Heavy mashine guns are not OP the problem is the range from the hmgs i dead in 40m range from the hmg.I know ' the range is okay for a hmg but the damage from this range is OP i have get 3000damage in 40m! Range.This need a fix.
If you were killed by an HMG at 40 m, then I would ask that you also tell us what other weapons were used to take down the other 80% of your health? Or did you stand still for 4 seconds while the HMG expended its full magazine warring you down? The HMG only gets mercy kills at 40m.
Of course if it was an Assault HMG then you are being disingenuous by just calling it an HMG, as the Assault HMG trades greatly reduced DPS for that little extra range.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
5627
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Posted - 2015.01.03 19:52:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Commander of Black wrote:XD sry i have edit it.^^ Ach the german forums are bad here is it better to get posts. Don't worry. You wouldn't want to see him attempt to make a post on the German forums :p Let alone with perfect spelling and grammar...
I participated in a multi page thread on the Spanish forum once. It would take me nearly an hour for each post, running it through the translator into Spanish and back to English to see what got garbled, and then editing and trying again, until I had something I was confident was being translated correctly. It was a lot of work!
And the guy that was Trolling me did not translate very well at all. LOL. Something about GoatsGǪ
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Commander of Black
Commando clan
Invidia Gloriae Comes
16
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Posted - 2015.01.03 20:08:00 -
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It wasnt assault hmg it was a boundless hmg.
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