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killian178
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Posted - 2015.01.02 20:45:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Why is it that all it takes to destroy a dropship, is lock on with swarms (which takes no skill), let go of a button (which takes no skill) and then repeat?
Forge guns are ok because at least you have to aim, but using swarms is just a way to get easy wp.
CCP pls, either return swarms and dropships to how they were before the changes so that afterburners are more effective and swarms are slower, or give dropships some kind of counter-measure for swarms, because this is getting ridiculous. This true for militia DS, definately. If you are in a Standard DS, or an ADS, then this is not true - those are harder to kill as they have higher HP and speed mods on them. This is working fine - if you want better surviability, don't fly militia or just avoid the SL players. I cannot support your complaint.
Really? Std and ads, are done in 3-4 volleys, period
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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killian178
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:01:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:Why is it that all it takes to destroy a dropship, is lock on with swarms (which takes no skill), let go of a button (which takes no skill) and then repeat?
Forge guns are ok because at least you have to aim, but using swarms is just a way to get easy wp.
CCP pls, either return swarms and dropships to how they were before the changes so that afterburners are more effective and swarms are slower, or give dropships some kind of counter-measure for swarms, because this is getting ridiculous. This true for militia DS, definately. If you are in a Standard DS, or an ADS, then this is not true - those are harder to kill as they have higher HP and speed mods on them. This is working fine - if you want better surviability, don't fly militia or just avoid the SL players. I cannot support your complaint. "Avoid the swarms." Literally impossible You've obviously never flown a dropship. It doesn't matter if it's MLT, STD or ADS, swarms pound the ever living hell out of dropships. I fly them quite often actually, and even though I only use Militia these days I would say I survive swarms as often as I lose a ship to them because I note where the swarms are coming from (e.g. I watch when other vehicles are getting shot) and avoid the area. As for actually avoiding the swarm missiles themselves, which I think is what you thought I meant but didn't mean, this is also possible provided you are relatively close to structures to fly behind/around/under etc. Swarms don't have the turn radius they used to have - it's easy to "thread the needle" where they can't. Honestly.
Swarms dont lock onto their target (dropships anyway), they follow there flight path, i dont know how many times ive tucked right behind a building, to have the swarms swing around it to hit me
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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killian178
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Posted - 2015.01.03 00:24:00 -
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Swarms dont lock onto their target (dropships anyway), they follow there flight path(to clerify, after a certain point), i dont know how many times ive tucked right behind a building, to have the swarms swing around it to hit me
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Not exactly true. If there were true, then when I fire them they wouldn't take the direct path, and then angle toward them and hit a tower. Watch the path yourself - fire a few. You'll see what I mean.[/quote]
Prof 5 in swarms, and mk.o commando, and lvl 5 python, lvl 5 sml msl turrets. I do know. Once the swarms are at least 70% of their flight time (my estimate), they will connect, no matter what, in my experience anyway.
Example:
Once i determine strafing runs are more viable than hover fire, i ascend, bank and turn, starting my decent. After firing 2-3shoots at my target, i quickly spin the ads on axis so my momentum caries me in a continuous line, but im still facing the target as i pass, continuing to fire.
Now if you know your maps, reverse flying isnt that hard, and you can easliy maneuver your ship right behind a tower/building. I do this consistently among other useful tricks to keep my baby in the air longer. But there are times, (70% thing from above) that ive SEEN the missle change trajectory, follow where my ds flew, and smack the side of me.
I also know that it happens, because ive seen MY missles do ft he exact same thing, especially when single objective in the city maps.
Sitting in a nice walkway or roof top, popping ds's and tanks. IF i can time my first volley, reload and get the next 2 out while they investigate\shoot at me the afterburner away. Leaving me to fire the third and watch as it chases him round that tower he thinks his aftwrburner got him behind.
nope, sorry :)
Im not complaing ether way, but the swarm vs DS is very efficient!
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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killian178
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:52:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:The only problem i have with swarms is it's a sure 75 damage wp at advanced, and w/o them rendering unless you are facing the direction of the swarmer. That's simply unfair because one can't hear them, one can't see them; but, one must feel them.
Honestly, that alone makes swarms overpowered. A ghostly 800+ damage weapon that you cannot see, hear, or avoid (the swarms just follow the dropship's path over time and the wider turning circle w/o inertia improves the swarms slightly [e.g: they fly around the building]) w/o boosting to full throttle.
I don't even need to engage someone (a fly by) and i magically see damage appear. I did'nt see, or hear anything. For all i know 2 more volleys might be on their way.
Come on people... Forget who vs what and actually fix some ISSUES that cause the problem. Can't we agree on that?
Preach it brother
Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
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