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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:37:00 -
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Ever since Uprising launched it has been my favorite weapon to use.
Not only that, but the weapon is great. I have no problem taking down armored targets.
My take on this, on why people say the AScR sucks is because it has a higher TTK than most weapons. Which for me is great.
So instead of buffing the AScR let's bring up TTK.
Maybe that will also help with a lot of things in the game.
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Jerricho Lionheart
highland marines IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:40:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote: ... it has a higher TTK than most weapons...
Umm...Well, I think you just answered your own question. |
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:46:00 -
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Jerricho Lionheart wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote: ... it has a higher TTK than most weapons...
Umm...Well, I think you just answered your own question. For me that is not enough reason to say it sucks.
This community just got too used to hard hitting weapons. Like the RR when it launched and until recently.
Now, that it has been balanced (a little) I am not seeing to many of them. Now the BrAR took its place because it has near same damage per bullet, rof, and very easy to use.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:49:00 -
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Cuz armor tanking
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Jathniel
G I A N T
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:50:00 -
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The ASCR started underperforming when the proficiencies were rebalanced. It was never actually a bad gun.
It recently received a dmg buff that has it decently competitive again.
So at this point in time... no, it doesn't suck... totally.
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Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2015.01.01 21:52:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cuz armor tanking I have no problem killing armor tankers.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:08:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cuz armor tanking I have no problem killing armor tankers. People that aren't shooting back at your or are completely garbage. Try using it against competitive players not people out of the academy. It's good but the 80% DMG against armor when this is an armor based game is complete ****. The reason the scr is good is cuz the high DMG the ascr not so much.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cuz armor tanking I have no problem killing armor tankers. People that aren't shooting back at your or are completely garbage. Try using it against competitive players not people out of the academy. It's good but the 80% DMG against armor when this is an armor based game is complete ****. The reason the scr is good is cuz the high DMG the ascr not so much. Most of my matches are with competent randoms or 6 man squads on the enemy team.
Your point?
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Reign Omega
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:13:00 -
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Its fun to use and has a cool sound but there are better guns for even what its purpose is. The gal ar is better all around, and the breach is way better. At the end of the day take heart on the fact that you're using what you want and enjoying it, that's the real way to win Dust. I have always liked the breach ar even when it was super weak, it just sounded cool to me, same with the breach sub. I still use them, it just so happens theyre good guns now.
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Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:19:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Its fun to use and has a cool sound but there are better guns for even what its purpose is. The gal ar is better all around, and the breach is way better. At the end of the day take heart on the fact that you're using what you want and enjoying it, that's the real way to win Dust. I have always liked the breach ar even when it was super weak, it just sounded cool to me, same with the breach sub. I still use them, it just so happens theyre good guns now. +1 to you
Tho I still believe we need higher TTK
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:35:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Its fun to use and has a cool sound but there are better guns for even what its purpose is. The gal ar is better all around, and the breach is way better. At the end of the day take heart on the fact that you're using what you want and enjoying it, that's the real way to win Dust. I have always liked the breach ar even when it was super weak, it just sounded cool to me, same with the breach sub. I still use them, it just so happens theyre good guns now. +1 to you Tho I still believe we need higher TTK We've done this several times.. It always finds its way back to faster ttk, I can't remember the build but TTk was really in a good place then.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:38:00 -
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It's not PC ready.
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2015.01.01 22:44:00 -
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It's because the Advanced and Proto have the same damage and because it has high visual recoil but it is a great weapon.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.01 23:04:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: I can't remember the build but TTk was really in a good place then. ^^^^^ This was not that long ago .
Wish I could remember actual as well .
It came and went in the wind and most didn't notice it .
Sometime after the damage mod changes and then people started to talk about how underwhelming their gun was .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2015.01.01 23:21:00 -
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Each weapon has a weakness, Cr, RR vs shields and Scr, AR vs armor.
The ASCR does the least amount of damage against it weakness of every racial riflle in its class, and does average damage vs its strengths against shield tankers. Thats why I dont use it, I know a proto Ascr vs armor is the same as the worst ADV rifles against their weakness, , and the ADV ASCR is doing the same as the standard rifles against thiers.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.01 23:29:00 -
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It makes shield tankers evaporate beautifully but against a competent player with a 400-500 armor tank then it becomes an uphill battle .. and guess what. Armor meta. |
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Posted - 2015.01.02 00:00:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cuz armor tanking I have no problem killing armor tankers. In comparison to an ACR or ARR with prof V, yes you do.
My advice to you, playa...
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.01.02 01:32:00 -
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For me its the visual kick and recoil when aiming down sight. The TTK seems fine if and when you are landing all the shots.
But the weapon becomes disproportionately difficult to use at range because of the flashing and jittering that is experienced when aiming. Its to the point that I'd rather use an AR at 35 or even 50m. I'd be landing so many more shots that the DPS would actually be higher, even at those ranges.
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