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Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:06:00 - [1] - Quote I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), and 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT.
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 996	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote Can I have your isk? I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Bremen van Equis BASTARDS OF BEDLAM 69	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:15:00 - [3] - Quote AurumGÇªallows you to do more, faster! But in all seriousness, we all went through itGÇªand even after you get to a point where you're not being completely kicked around, you'll find that all the vets have enough ISK to run their best gear all the time, while you're just trying to break even on a match while running your best fits. Be relentlessGÇª hoard your ISKGÇª never give up GÇªnever surrender!! Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:15:00 - [4] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Can I have your isk? All of it, I have 2m, and I only spend it to restock my loadouts, which coost me like only 400k for 100...
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:17:00 - [5] - Quote Bremen van Equis wrote: AurumGÇªallows you to do more, faster! But in all seriousness, we all went through itGÇªand even after you get to a point where you're not being completely kicked around, you'll find that all the vets have enough ISK to run their best gear all the time, while you're just trying to break even on a match while running your best fits. Be relentlessGÇª hoard your ISKGÇª never give up GÇªnever surrender!! I am not of a quitting type of person, but getting constant unfun stomped matches are making me get annoyed and angry, sooner or later I am quitting this game and I wont even look back.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10637	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:18:00 - [6] - Quote The matchmaking got screwed up somehow during the 1.9 update. But just so you know, matchmaking only works on public matches. There is absolutely no matchmaking in Planetary Conquest or Faction Warfare. That is intentional. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:28:00 - [7] - Quote run w/ your corp more so at least you have backup
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2015.01.01 21:35:00 - [8] - Quote Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT.
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 150	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:10:00 - [9] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Can I have your isk now? And from reading how you wrote that stuff I definitely know why you get stomped. Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 245	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:21:00 - [10] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. I hate those blueberries who literally could not get into cover just because they want to engage EVERYONE in the battle. And therefore we lose matches because of losing 150 clones. If you do 1/17 or worse you need to rethink your tactics. THIS. IS. NOT. COD. The enemy players in PRO suits have at least 2-3 times more HP or DMG than a newbie has. But those suits are expensive AS **. Your cheap or free MLT suit worth NOTHING. DO. NOT. ENGAGE. PRO. SUITS. Get into cover, RUN AWAY from them, engage MLT suits, survive, put down uplinks or nanohives, repair your heavy mates. Or just ran around and hack objectives. But DO NOT *** ran into PRO suits like headless chickens. Quote:** DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! You can't buy SP from players, he was a scammer. You won't experience EVERYTHING within 2 little short days. Again, this isn't CoD. Yes, I'm that desperate...

Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:25:00 - [11] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Can I have your isk now? And from reading how you wrote that stuff I definitely know why you get stomped. Than tell me, why?
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:28:00 - [12] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. I hate those blueberries who literally could not get into cover just because they want to engage EVERYONE in the battle. And therefore we lose matches because of losing 150 clones. If you do 1/17 or worse you need to rethink your tactics. THIS. IS. NOT. COD. The enemy players in PRO suits have at least 2-3 times more HP or DMG than a newbie has. But those suits are expensive AS **. Your cheap or free MLT suit worth NOTHING. DO. NOT. ENGAGE. PRO. SUITS. Get into cover, RUN AWAY from them, engage MLT suits, survive, put down uplinks or nanohives, repair your heavy mates. Or just ran around and hack objectives. But DO NOT *** ran into PRO suits like headless chickens. Quote:** DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! You can't buy SP from players, he was a scammer. You won't experience EVERYTHING within 2 little short days. Again, this isn't CoD. Hey, know this, I never played COD. and I don't engage them, they ENGAGE ME! How can we run to hack objectives when every single one of them is protected by the enemy team? And if I try and stay together with team, we just get slaughted. When I said to get me 30k SP or more, I meant, asking someone that knows how to play well to get me SP (go into my acc). Got a friend in real life who is very good at this game and wouldn't mind of doing that, but ik it aint the right way to get better at the game. But I keep my last PS. PS: I QUIT!
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1807	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:28:00 - [13] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. DUST VIDEOS
Stryker Syx Vector D3ATH CARD RUST415 40	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:29:00 - [14] - Quote Everyone that says we all went through it is wrong. The amount of sp vets have now is a lot steeper than when they first started. This game won't grow because new players don't like losing or constantly getting killed. It is a problem and the ones who don't think so or belittle new people on the forums are the vets who constantly stomp.
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1808	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:30:00 - [15] - Quote it is a completely stupid game because it's a failed freemium model. new players goes in, isn't separated from vets, gets DESTROYED, has to either quit or buy boosters/AUR gear. basically a freemium game, you can only play for so long before you cannot afford to play. the game is only losing players, those who have stuck around a while can do well but new players can't play this game, the barrier to entry is too high. ccp don't care though and haven't implemented anything useful because it destroys their freemium model so they will only lie to you to string you along. DUST VIDEOS
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 150	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:36:00 - [16] - Quote Stryker Syx Vector wrote: Everyone that says we all went through it is wrong. The amount of sp vets have now is a lot steeper than when they first started. This game won't grow because new players don't like losing or constantly getting killed. It is a problem and the ones who don't think so or belittle new people on the forums are the vets who constantly stomp. Dunno man, I started to play this game long time ago when the top players had maybe 20-30kk sp, back then it was harder than when I came back after some time and started a new character when there were people with over 60kk sp and found the game easier. Edit : Is like saying that FootBall is stupid cuz back in the primary school you got owned by older kids. Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:40:00 - [17] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Stryker Syx Vector wrote: Everyone that says we all went through it is wrong. The amount of sp vets have now is a lot steeper than when they first started. This game won't grow because new players don't like losing or constantly getting killed. It is a problem and the ones who don't think so or belittle new people on the forums are the vets who constantly stomp. Dunno man, I started to play this game long time ago when the top players had maybe 20-30kk sp, back then it was harder than when I came back after some time and started a new character when there were people with over 60kk sp and found the game easier. Well, game became more famous and has gotten more new people, who don't know how to play, who get stomped, allowing the others with 20kk 30kk sp to get even more points and farm even more SP.
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 152	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:44:00 - [18] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: new people, who don't know how to play. You have your answer Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:48:00 - [19] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Liari Storm wrote: new people, who don't know how to play. You have your answer If idk how to play, why I am against people who can play this game blind, using their foot to play?!
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 153	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:50:00 - [20] - Quote Ok Liari Storm you're in a corp right? ask people and squad up with em, give yourself time , I'm comming back home tomorrow so I might stop on your pub chat so if you need help just text me in-game and I'll see what I can do. P.S. send me also your timezone Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5

7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:51:00 - [21] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Going 1/17 is NOT ok, you need to put your team first and not your stubborness
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:52:00 - [22] - Quote Mad Kras wrote: Ok Liari Storm you're in a corp right? ask people and squad up with em give yourself time , I'm comming back home tomorrow so I might stop on your pub chat so if you need help just text me in-game and I'll see what I can do. P.S. text me also your timezone My timezon if I remember is GMT, lisbon. Don't remembeer the numbers. .-. And I without a doubt need help in game z.z
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:56:00 - [23] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Going 1/17 is NOT ok, you need to put your team first and not your stubborness If I put my team first, I would go 0/40. ANd I go 1/17 because I get insta killed by all kind of players... But I got to say, i've been finding that using the cloak thingy and shotgun (if I remember, you guys call that a scout), being extremly good. Expecially since I can go invisible and capture points, get easly in enemy back line and completly obliterate them. But as allways, it only worked for one game. Went 7/4, than next game, it was the 1/17..
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 247	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:58:00 - [24] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Going 1/17 is NOT ok, you need to put your team first and not your stubborness If I put my team first, I would go 0/40. ANd I go 1/17 because I get insta killed by all kind of players... But I got to say, i've been finding that using the cloak thingy and shotgun (if I remember, you guys call that a scout), being extremly good. Expecially since I can go invisible and capture points, get easly in enemy back line and completly obliterate them. But as allways, it only worked for one game. Went 7/4, than next game, it was the 1/17.. And people say the Shotgun + Cloak isn't OP. Yes, I'm that desperate...
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 210	Posted - 2015.01.01 22:59:00 - [25] - Quote Ah another disciple to my dropship squad! I just joined Y.A.M.A.H. And mainly looking for dropship gunners and a HALO team. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1217	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:01:00 - [26] - Quote I'd like to squad up sometime with you and see what's going on. Matchmaking has been a bit wonky. Some days, it's great and I have fun matches against people. Other times it sets you up for failure. Liari: I'd like to squad up with you sometime. Next time you are on, send me a message. CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 154	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:02:00 - [27] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: And people say the Shotgun + Cloak isn't OP. lol Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:02:00 - [28] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. Going 1/17 is NOT ok, you need to put your team first and not your stubborness If I put my team first, I would go 0/40. ANd I go 1/17 because I get insta killed by all kind of players... But I got to say, i've been finding that using the cloak thingy and shotgun (if I remember, you guys call that a scout), being extremly good. Expecially since I can go invisible and capture points, get easly in enemy back line and completly obliterate them. But as allways, it only worked for one game. Went 7/4, than next game, it was the 1/17.. Yes but that happens in Dust, sometimes you go 15-2 and other times 5-8. I recommend skilling up the RR(create more distance between you and the enemy, and also scout.
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:03:00 - [29] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'd like to squad up sometime with you and see what's going on. Matchmaking has been a bit wonky. Some days, it's great and I have fun matches against people. Other times it sets you up for failure. Liari: I'd like to squad up with you sometime. Next time you are on, send me a message. Just to finish the raid in a game and I will login on dust514 again, in like 30~40 minutes. I will post here when I can login. ^^
Mad Kras SVER True Blood 154	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:05:00 - [30] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'd like to squad up sometime with you and see what's going on. Matchmaking has been a bit wonky. Some days, it's great and I have fun matches against people. Other times it sets you up for failure. Liari: I'd like to squad up with you sometime. Next time you are on, send me a message. I don't thinks so Jedi, this young man is coming to the dark side with me (said with Darth Vader's voice) Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5

Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 2	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:10:00 - [31] - Quote Hey kaze, I am logged in. See you in game
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1217	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:36:00 - [32] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Hey kaze, I am logged in. See you in game Alright. Finishing up a match and I'll send you an invite. CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 3	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:47:00 - [33] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Hey kaze, I am logged in. See you in game Alright. Finishing up a match and I'll send you an invite. Tried again, went 0/4, was in third place with 225 points. Best score in my team was 2/6. Enemy team (gona say the first 10 of enemy team): 9/0, 1/0, 5/1, 6/0, 7/0, 7/1, 5/0, 5/0, 4/0, 2/0. My team: 1/2, 1/0, 0/4, 2/6, 1/1, 1/5, 1/0, 1/2, 1/4, 0/5. So balanced...
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 486	Posted - 2015.01.02 00:50:00 - [34] - Quote What is this "gold" you keep talking about?
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 3	Posted - 2015.01.02 00:58:00 - [35] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: What is this "gold" you keep talking about? Advanced weaponry and armor, with a gold icon on it.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 486	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:06:00 - [36] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: What is this "gold" you keep talking about? Advanced weaponry and armor, with a gold icon on it. Couple weeks of playing and you will have that too.
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:09:00 - [37] - Quote Play as a scout or just a militia light suit and you will have more fun. Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1438	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:14:00 - [38] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. Run with people you can laugh with, enjoy dying and the ludicrous matchmaking, don't take it personally. Matchmaking is crappy for most of us, protostompers think it is funny, and new players get the shaft. CCP either can't or won't fix it, instead they implement changes that favor the protostompers. You either have to make peace with that, which I can't do, or embrace your rage like a lover, which is how I do it. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1438	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:15:00 - [39] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Liari Storm wrote: Hey kaze, I am logged in. See you in game Alright. Finishing up a match and I'll send you an invite. Tried again, went 0/4, was in third place with 225 points. Best score in my team was 2/6. Enemy team (gona say the first 10 of enemy team): 9/0, 1/0, 5/1, 6/0, 7/0, 7/1, 5/0, 5/0, 4/0, 2/0. My team: 1/2, 1/0, 0/4, 2/6, 1/1, 1/5, 1/0, 1/2, 1/4, 0/5. So balanced... Unfortunately, this is pretty typical. Because, that's why.
rasputin900000 Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2015.01.02 01:27:00 - [40] - Quote Believe me dude we all still go through it. You got nyain, and a few other corps that more than likely are going to stomp you regardless. Q syncs happen a lot too it's part of it.got 50 mil so still happens.

Stryker Syx Vector D3ATH CARD RUST415 43	Posted - 2015.01.02 02:29:00 - [41] - Quote rasputin900000 wrote: Believe me dude we all still go through it. You got nyain, and a few other corps that more than likely are going to stomp you regardless. Q syncs happen a lot too it's part of it.got 50 mil so still happens. Doesn't make it right. CCP needs to find a way to fix it or the vets will be the only ones left.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 487	Posted - 2015.01.02 02:34:00 - [42] - Quote Stryker Syx Vector wrote: rasputin900000 wrote: Believe me dude we all still go through it. You got nyain, and a few other corps that more than likely are going to stomp you regardless. Q syncs happen a lot too it's part of it.got 50 mil so still happens. Doesn't make it right. CCP needs to find a way to fix it or the vets will be the only ones left. Given enough time and everyone is a vet.
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 71	Posted - 2015.01.02 09:02:00 - [43] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: Tried to give 1 more shot to this game. Enemy team FULL gold, our team 1 was silver, the rest with commun weapons. We got purely stomped, I went 1/17 with only 200 points. PS: I QUIT. You can't play if you went 1/17. I see a lot such a players with 0/xx even our team wins. QRT30 - all Caldari lvl 5, Min/Gal all lvl.3 - core maxed QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 602	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:25:00 - [44] - Quote You did one thing right. You did what most new players dont. You came to the forums in search of answers and information. I mean when you log on thats what they tell you to do. Unfortunately the forums are full of ssholes who feel that because it sucks for them it should suck for everybody cuz fck you. You need to squad up! You need training in tactics, how to use your weapons and ther advantages, and what to spec into with your SP that will help you get you more SP per battle! Spend your SP on your dropsuit upgrades! Weapons are great, but useless if you're dead before you fire?! As you've experienced already. You need precision, range, dampening, armor and armor repair, shield and shield regen, etc. READ! Every suit, upgrade, and mod helps benefit survival on the battlefield. Passive abilities that you don't need mods for are the best. When you finish your base armor upgrades you get the full armor potential on your dropsuit. Same goes for speed, shield, and core upgrades. The more of your upgrades you finish the better your chances. I would suggest speccing into an anti-vehicle weapon like a swarm launcher. A battle rifle of your race so the bonuses apply. Also equipment. Equipment on the battlefield is a great source of warpoints, and can help the team. Nanocircuitry, drop uplinks, repair tools, etc. They are all just as important as being a slayer in this game, and can help you get more warpoints. Which will help with your SP gain problem. CCP does a terrible job of explaining pretty much anything in this game. Whatever race you pick has bonuses, and if you play to their strengths you will fair better. Play defensively at points of interest. Role atleast two to three deep for support. Try to work off the back of more experienced players, and learn from them without aggrevating them during battle with questions. This game isn't a race, but a marathon. It takes time, patience, planning, and a whole lot of fighting. When you're weaker than your opponent... get help! Ask for backup on whatever point you're at. If your shotgun isn't working try two! They aren't invincible. Just truly depraved in real. Everyone wants to win, but winning isn't as important as the progrest you make. Remember that most of these guys are lonely kids, lonely old guys, and the like. They will run whatever works best this month (fotm). "Anybody order chaos?"
Aderek Made in Poland... E-R-A 117	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:25:00 - [45] - Quote If you die, die, and die... So, you dont go forward, look around, hide beyond rocks, etc. Support you team, look around, go back, do not frontal atack :) You MUST THINK! In this game you not shoot and kill, you YOUR CLONE MUST BE LIKE SMART PHONE ;) dust514.pl MM proto logi 50 kk SP and growing
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 670	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:30:00 - [46] - Quote This is the main problem with dust. It's academy than you get stomped absolutely no time to learn the gane at a steady pase War never changes
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 602	Posted - 2015.01.02 10:35:00 - [47] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'd like to squad up sometime with you and see what's going on. Matchmaking has been a bit wonky. Some days, it's great and I have fun matches against people. Other times it sets you up for failure. Liari: I'd like to squad up with you sometime. Next time you are on, send me a message. This is what should be going on in dust when you reach 20 mil +! Not ganging together to make yourself feel better. I know all those chats too, but I dont hang out for proto stomping fun because as shown here it kills the player base. o7 to you kaze "Anybody order chaos?"
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:00:00 - [48] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. We all feel you (and have experienced the same). I have played since closed beta, and sometimes I still get stomped. When I do, my focus tends to shift from winning to making them pay for their full proto outfits. I spawn in blueprints or the cheapest suite I have, and don't care if I die a lot, as long as I take a couple of them with me. The importaint thing is to keep your distance, and pick of stragglers that already have been damaged. Try to get to an elivated position with a laser or rail rifle and pick them off. Pick your targets carefully, and make sure you shoot them a couple of times after they are down (so they can't be resurrected). If they approach your position, don't engage and retrete to keep your distance. Ps: laser gives a bonus damage to shields and rail rifles to armour.
Eros Adonai Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:56:00 - [49] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. CCP...Is this the new player experience you're looking for? This is why the player count is so low...It's doomed to failure until this is sorted...a simple algorithm in matchmaking based on sp would surely not be so difficult to implement...It's also boring and no challenge at all for experienced players when they go against new players...It's astounding to me that this is still a problem
Liari Storm Y.A.M.A.H 9	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:19:00 - [50] - Quote Again, pure stomp, enemy team FULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GOLD, we couldn't even spawn in our own base that we would die. And also those lovely grenades where I am 40 meters away from them, they explode, it says they did to me 600 damage within 40 meters... Also, dahell is the problem with grenades? Whenver I throw them they simply don't go the right direction, they either go left or right instead of going forward. I have yet to land 1 grenade on an enemy...

Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 1438	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:45:00 - [51] - Quote The grenade blast radius was not 40 meters. The guy who threw the grenade was 40 meters away. As for getting better with grenades, try cooking them before tossing. Perhaps best to practice your timing with the Flux variant. Also, you may want to consider joining a training corp or a scrub corp until you've learned the ropes. DUST University is a good example of the former, and SVER True Blood a good example of the latter.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6709	Posted - 2015.01.02 14:55:00 - [52] - Quote @OP I really enjoyed this rant. +1 Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1222	Posted - 2015.01.02 20:04:00 - [53] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: I'd like to squad up sometime with you and see what's going on. Matchmaking has been a bit wonky. Some days, it's great and I have fun matches against people. Other times it sets you up for failure. Liari: I'd like to squad up with you sometime. Next time you are on, send me a message. This is what should be going on in dust when you reach 20 mil +! Not ganging together to make yourself feel better. I know all those chats too, but I dont hang out for proto stomping fun because as shown here it kills the player base. o7 to you kaze Thanks man. Have to say, the squad was a success. We did lose our first 2 games together, but gave him some pointers and explained more in depth about how the game works and encouraged him to upgrade his cores. After he charged headlong into dooming and suicidal situations, he stuck close to me in our 3rd battle and I brought out my Gal triple scan Logi to give him some intel. The situational awareness I gave him drastically cut his deaths in half by 75%. He also managed to score 3 close quarters Laser Rifle kills. I don't even. There's a lesson here guys: sometimes there's a genuinely new player who gets aggravated similar to new players in EVE. If you're intelligent enough, you'll be able to tell the vet making alt from a genuinely new player (or did I overestimate you guys? ). Pick them up, find their flaws, fortify their strengths, and we'll have another mercenary to fight alongside as well as against. CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 605	Posted - 2015.01.02 20:13:00 - [54] - Quote Eros Adonai wrote: Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. CCP...Is this the new player experience you're looking for? This is why the player count is so low...It's doomed to failure until this is sorted...a simple algorithm in matchmaking based on sp would surely not be so difficult to implement...It's also boring and no challenge at all for experienced players when they go against new players...It's astounding to me that this is still a problem They don't hear you bro?! They're too busy handing out f*cking boxes?! "Anybody order chaos?"
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1687	Posted - 2015.01.02 21:00:00 - [55] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: I'm done with this DAMN matchmaking or WHATEVER it is in this game. Tbh, I think this game logic is: You are SH.IT? Okay, than your teammates will be SH.IT too. BUT, enemy team will have FULL "gold" equips, and have played the game for up to 2 years, while your teammates are for around 1 week MAX. I am so damn tired of being against teams (99.9% of the times), where they STOMP, AND STOMP AND AGAIN, STOMP US, TILL WE GET SO MAD THAT WE ALMOST WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, IN THE FREAKING REAL LIFE! DOING 100 GAMES, LOSING 100 TIMES, GOING EVERY SINGLE GAME 3/5000000000000 BCS HOW CAN A 200 HP PLAYER (and 90 shield) BE AGAINST A DAMN ENEMY WITH 700 OR UP TO 2000 HEALTH THAT DOES 9/10 OF MY HP WITH 1 SHOT! (Being an assault riffle) I tried almost every SINGLE loadout, guide, team comps, teamworking, grouping, ambushing enemy, EVERYTHING. But I can't. I play this game at 2 days (I was inactive 1 week), but I CAN'T 100% carry a game, get enough points to get good SP. How can I learn to play this game, if I can't blink and I am already dead, if I can't hide, and be killed by an OP massdriver?! I tried squads, corps, DAMN, I ALMOST THOUGHT OF PAYING SOMEONE TO GET ME 30K SP OR MORE! I want to experience the game at it's MAX, but how can I if I spend more than half of the time either DEAD or being killed?! When I saw a gameplay of this game I fell in love with it, but after going throught the "academy" phase, I just LOST my hope on this game. Getting constantly stomped, killed, ambushed... and in the end, to get some miserables 2k~4k SP at max. Just to be in mind I need atleast 500k SP just for the armor (the silver one), MORE 400k SP for the weapon (silver, not gold one) and atleast have more 300~500k SP in my pocket to use for enginearing and electronics... I am just tired of dieng and dieng and dieng... And getting stomped, and stomped and stomped... I want to play this game for fun! Wast my time running around with teams, saving each others, laughing, but no, I wast my time DEAD, being KILLED, being STOMPED... IS IT HARD ASKING FOR A SLIGHT FUN?! OR I HAVE TO WAST 1 FULL YEAR OF MY LIFE, 8760 HOURS, 525600 MINUTES, 3153600 SECONDS JUST TO START HAVING FUN?! I'm sorry, but I lack the patience to wast so much time just to have the slight fun when I can go outside and in less than half an hour start having fun! Is this game made to be funny and cooperative or annoying and irritating?! Liari Storm, OUT. CCP Should be absolutely ashamed of this. Until matchmaking is reworked yet again the academy cap should be seriously raised and any one using a system or ip address of another character automatically removed from the academy.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 861	Posted - 2015.01.02 21:15:00 - [56] - Quote ITT 1) Frustrated new player 2) People trying to help 3) people with mad programming skills yo, that think CCP is intentionally f##king over the new players because "OMGZ IT'S SO EASY TO FIX"
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 1536	Posted - 2015.01.02 21:48:00 - [57] - Quote These type of threads annoy me. There is always 3 types of people. 1) Beta Vets, who have no concept of what being stomped means, as that was over 1.5 years ago. 2) Vets, people who joined after release, but still have substantial amounts of SP who went through the stomping as they started, with Beta Vets having ~25m SP. These people ate the ones who say "We all went through it, you should too". 3) New Players, and those (like myself) who realise this has always been wrong and should of never of been like this, are those who argue for a better NPE, and matchmaking. When I started, despite reading the forums since Feb 13, it was June 13, just after release. I believe at the time the Academy had like ~30,000 WP before graduation. Imagine what its like with 2500 WP like recently. For most of us thats one good game. Yes I grinded through the hell, I dont think I got a 1.0 K/D for about 6 months. Even now its only 2.17, annoying when you see Beta Vets with 4-7 K/Ds lifetime. Do I think noobs should go through that same hell? Part of me says yes, because I did. But the other says no, as I shouldve never gone through it in the first place. That being said, the primary development team for that time has gone, and we have Rattati and co who actually care a bit. Unfortunately, we all know that there simply isnt enough focus on Dust with Legion/Valkyrie/Eve in the background, so a drastic fix is highly unlikely in Dust. Therefore to you OP, and other noobs, I recommend: 1) Joining a corp - a proper corp, not a crappy one. That, or Dust University or Immortal Guides. Like the OP is in YAMAH. 2) Squad, always - Doesnt matter if everyone in the squad is better than you, you will learn. 3) Get a mic - Less chance of being kicked, lets you talk to other squad members, lets you learn faster and make friends. 4) Avoid Ambush - You will be obliterated by high SP players like myself, even if you're in a squad. 5) Stick to Skirmish, Domination if in a good squad - Hacking installations and objectives gets you more WP and SP. 6) Follow the Daily Missions - It nets you more gear, ISK, SP, boosters and so on. 7) Delete the Sniper Starter Fit - you will do bad and continue to do bad if you run this fit. Please dont. 8) Optional, buy Boosters to increase SP gain. That being said, its your decision if you want to financially support CCP. 9) Buy an APEX fit - A Proto suit fitted out with Basic Weapons and modules, and will never go away as its a Blueprint. They cost 58,000 AUR, so same as above. 10) Use the forums as much as possible - You will learn more about the game on the forums than anywhere else, and eventually people wont see you as a noob. Just dont go near The War Room. Thats a combination of what I did and what you can do now. Enjoy. "Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?" Pilot & Assault. Complete twat.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1137	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:21:00 - [58] - Quote Liari Storm wrote: NPE sucks balls IK. Check your mailbox on DUST for a nice surprise. No, not trolling, I believe I can help (with the SP issue at least). Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1138	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:29:00 - [59] - Quote As for NPE in general.... wait for "meta level lockout". This is basically gear-limited-matches, although the smart/shady ones will still rock some proto gear in lower meta matches, mark my words. I say this because each fitting will have a total meta level consisting of the combined meta of every item on and including the dropsuit itself, and there can only really be a maximum of 3 different "meta groups" otherwise we'd have queues longer than FW on a bad day. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164


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