DUST Search - What happened CCP

Bethhy wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are.

That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC.

What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle.

I Guess you guys weren't around during the start when they where selling this to EVE players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--------------Check out the original DUST 514.(Yes Phone Camera it was a Fanfest Live demo with people there playing) Check out the Gallente FIghter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA <------------ Check out prt 2 where they showed us what personal Warbarges look like... and explain the whole mechanic around it... and all the fluff like Trophy rooms. (Rattati is ambitious enough to have this on the road map)

This was 2009.... We are 2015 here around the world soon. Planetside 2 started development the same time that DUST 514 did.

If only we could of taken DUST 514's content and big concepts and paired it with SOE development team.

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calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2340	Posted - 2015.01.01 02:14:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns This CCP, what happened? Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
Void Echo Total Extinction 2754	Posted - 2015.01.01 02:33:00 - [2] - Quote They severely overestimated their talents and resources. Closed Beta Vet. Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 235	Posted - 2015.01.01 02:53:00 - [3] - Quote I remember watching the e3 video like 3 years ago (or something like that ) and i was blown away. I was looking to get away from cod and enjoy something with a bit more meat to it. so finally the time came where i could buy into the closed beta with a merc pack. I was a bit underwhelmed to say the least but fact of the matter is i still love this game although im not sure why "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Void Echo Total Extinction 2755	Posted - 2015.01.01 02:57:00 - [4] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: I remember watching the e3 video like 3 years ago (or something like that ) and i was blown away. I was looking to get away from cod and enjoy something with a bit more meat to it. so finally the time came where i could buy into the closed beta with a merc pack. I was a bit underwhelmed to say the least but fact of the matter is i still love this game although im not sure why You guys still exis Closed Beta Vet. Until you know the pain I live with, you'll never understand why I see man the way I do.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 204	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:19:00 - [5] - Quote Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2728	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:19:00 - [6] - Quote There's something everyone needs to realize about CCP: While their products are good, and their trailers are amazing and tend to overstate their products' quality. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10630	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:45:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2807	Posted - 2015.01.01 04:14:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. I Guess you guys weren't around during the start when they where selling this to EVE players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--------------Check out the original DUST 514.(Yes Phone Camera it was a Fanfest Live demo with people there playing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA <------------ Check out prt 2 where they showed us what personal Warbarges look like... and explain the whole mechanic around it... and all the fluff like Trophy rooms. (Rattati is ambitious enough to have this on the road map) This was 2009.... We are 2015 here around the world soon. Planetside 2 started development the same time that DUST 514 did. If only we could of taken DUST 514's content and big concepts and paired it with SOE development team.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10631	Posted - 2015.01.01 05:27:00 - [9] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. I Guess you guys weren't around during the start when they where selling this to EVE players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--------------Check out the original DUST 514.(Yes Phone Camera it was a Fanfest Live demo with people there playing) Check out the Gallente FIghter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA <------------ Check out prt 2 where they showed us what personal Warbarges look like... and explain the whole mechanic around it... and all the fluff like Trophy rooms. (Rattati is ambitious enough to have this on the road map) This was 2009.... We are 2015 here around the world soon. Planetside 2 started development the same time that DUST 514 did. If only we could of taken DUST 514's content and big concepts and paired it with SOE development team. I was around as well. Even then, people were skeptical about the game. After Incarna of 2011, we protested the way CCP handled Eve which ultimately impacted the way Dust 514 was developed. In a way, I guess you can say it's partly our fault for Dust's delay but it was all for the greater good to ensure that CCP continues to learn it's lesson... however many times we need to remind them. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 1023	Posted - 2015.01.01 05:33:00 - [10] - Quote Rattati does not acknowledge anything done by the former Dust team.... don't quote me on that (read Rattati's sig as to why).... See it as a fresh start. Vehicles are being looked at again by the new team... for the first time. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2340	Posted - 2015.01.01 06:26:00 - [11] - Quote Void Echo wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: I remember watching the e3 video like 3 years ago (or something like that ) and i was blown away. I was looking to get away from cod and enjoy something with a bit more meat to it. so finally the time came where i could buy into the closed beta with a merc pack. I was a bit underwhelmed to say the least but fact of the matter is i still love this game although im not sure why You guys still exis Yes. I remember when you could destroy the objective and the hack point was away from the objective. Oh the days when the laser rifle made you run away screaming. The fishbowl was the best firefights I can remember. Ahh the nostalgia. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4488	Posted - 2015.01.01 06:40:00 - [12] - Quote Dammit, 2009 was six years ago. 6!!!!!!
7th Son 7 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2015.01.01 06:47:00 - [13] - Quote Right!......... wtf man
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 206	Posted - 2015.01.01 06:58:00 - [14] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. I Guess you guys weren't around during the start when they where selling this to EVE players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--------------Check out the original DUST 514.(Yes Phone Camera it was a Fanfest Live demo with people there playing) Check out the Gallente FIghter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA <------------ Check out prt 2 where they showed us what personal Warbarges look like... and explain the whole mechanic around it... and all the fluff like Trophy rooms. (Rattati is ambitious enough to have this on the road map) This was 2009.... We are 2015 here around the world soon. Planetside 2 started development the same time that DUST 514 did. If only we could of taken DUST 514's content and big concepts and paired it with SOE development team. Yes, I absolutely was around at the beginning and even before. Long enough to see this train slowely running off the tracks, long enough to see CCP's limitations with developing ambulation and Incarna and long enough to read EVE player's general consensus about DUST. The only reason I'm even playing this game is because I was waiting to see where it went. I was a year early, but that kept me hanging on. If I had waited to read about what happened this last year I would have been able to laugh it off and move on. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Indy Strizer Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 236	Posted - 2015.01.01 07:00:00 - [15] - Quote Lack of prioritization/direction.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2245	Posted - 2015.01.01 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote calvin b wrote: Oh the days when the laser rifle made you run away screaming. They still do... Tough being a Caldari, being instakilled by Laz0rs sucks. I mean it kills proto faster than a SG to the back! Kill Death Ratio is an invalid metric and thus should not be used to determine skill. Stabby Stabber.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6725	Posted - 2015.01.01 08:48:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. It was because they spent YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT on a high grade version of Dust after making a contract with Sony. So after failing with the original engine for two years they had to learn the Unreal Engine quickly and make a rushed product. Had they started on the Unreal Engine since the beginning instead of wasting so much time and resources on the failed engine they would have accomplished A LOT more and would have saved this game a lot of heart ache. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18104	Posted - 2015.01.01 08:52:00 - [18] - Quote Stuff CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3654	Posted - 2015.01.01 08:57:00 - [19] - Quote calvin b wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns This CCP, what happened? 1. People thought it was cool to not support a free game. 2. Frankly speaking....stupidity, evidenced by some of the most silliest and OP mechanics seen in fps. 3. Unable to execute....framerate drops in pubs, let alone pcs Shield tanking is hard mode /period. > Check RND out here
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2809	Posted - 2015.01.01 10:29:00 - [20] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. It was because they spent YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT on a high grade version of Dust after making a contract with Sony. So after failing with the original engine for two years they had to learn the Unreal Engine quickly and make a rushed product. Had they started on the Unreal Engine since the beginning instead of wasting so much time and resources on the failed engine they would have accomplished A LOT more and would have saved this game a lot of heart ache. It's kinda silly to have this as an excuse. Carbon engine was created by CCP Atlanta for World of Darkness. Then Used by EVE online for their avatar system.. Then further used for 2-3 years of development of DUST. So Essentially CCP had 3 complete studios in 3 distinct different locations around the world, Working on the Carbon engine. At some point either they have the skill to optimize the engine to be scalable to run on lower grade hardware... Or they have enough people working on it to understand that it won't work for the application they are using it for. The Idea CCP had to put a game of theirs on console and link it to their New Eden galaxy was almost the main concept around DUST's inception... They knew they had limitations with static hardware platforms that where already a few years old. P.S* Like i said earlier... Planetside 2 and DUST 514 started development around the same time. Now i understand we are comparing CCP to SoE.... But the sheer amount of assets and complicated mechanics that perform wonderfully together mixed with a few hundred players that can be in one engagement and map area... Wtf........ It Really makes you wonder where the developer time at CCP Shanghai studios went... o.Oa
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2015.01.01 11:20:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Stuff I think this sums it up perfectly. CCP have religiously been adopting Murphys Law for a long time, but it looks like they finally got their house in order (both EVE and DUST). Looking forward to a great 2015!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18105	Posted - 2015.01.01 11:53:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: P.S* Like i said earlier... Planetside 2 and DUST 514 started development around the same time. Now i understand we are comparing CCP to SoE.... But the sheer amount of assets and complicated mechanics that perform wonderfully together mixed with a few hundred players that can be in one engagement and map area... Wtf........ It Really makes you wonder where the developer time at CCP Shanghai studios went... o.Oa last time I checked SOE's Austin studio is about 240 large which is much more than ccp ever combined. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 730	Posted - 2015.01.01 13:18:00 - [23] - Quote calvin b wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns This CCP, what happened? Apart from making pretty trailers there wasnt much backing this game up. CCP has experience with spaceship spreadsheets but had no clue about FPS. And its questionable if there will be a sequel for PS4/PC. Well maybe we get another "keynote" for Dust at fanfest like last year. Which by the way was lolworthy at best. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1181	Posted - 2015.01.01 13:34:00 - [24] - Quote Hopefully the damage is reversed with Legion..
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1806	Posted - 2015.01.01 18:32:00 - [25] - Quote calvin b wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns This CCP, what happened? they didn't want to spend any of their previous EVE money so outsourced cheap labour to China, like everyone does when they want to make cheap products, don't believe in the product, and don't want to put a lot of money into it and ultimately don't care about the product. But then spend the rest of the time adding in things to buy for real money. shots fired. DUST VIDEOS
AndyAndio 0uter.Heaven 115	Posted - 2015.01.01 19:07:00 - [26] - Quote Real life happened.- 2013 DUST 514's MVP of the Year.- Retired for Love of the Game
Nirwanda Vaughns 1159	Posted - 2015.01.01 19:24:00 - [27] - Quote calvin b wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns This CCP, what happened? they spent $23m, 56 staff and two year son another game they couldn't handle designing instead. if all the world of darkness assets went into DUST we'd probably still be playing it on PS4 Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 162	Posted - 2015.01.02 02:02:00 - [28] - Quote Many things happened most of which is already stated, but CCP never made a good product to begin with in my opinion and it is still pretty much the same game besides the balances which is only so much you can do. CCP never showed most of the ideas that was suppose to be in the game; ideas that never came to fruition for the most part. They just talked about it even after the game came out, so now I think they never really knew how they was going to do any of it . Which I find pretty stupid and false advertising. They also didn't release much new content, especially the major ones. I think CCP wasn't all that committed to Dust and probably knew it wouldn't do well at least in the later months.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5552	Posted - 2015.01.02 04:49:00 - [29] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Old news. What happened was they went console and thought they were a better company than they are. That also happens to be one of their many slick epeen promo videos, not actual gameplay. It could have looked like thatGÇª on the PC. What they should have done is release it on the PC first where it had a higher likelihood of success than on the console. Once it was capable on the PC, they would've have had it ready in time to port it over to the PS4. But no, they started on the PS3 instead... late in its console life cycle. I Guess you guys weren't around during the start when they where selling this to EVE players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <--------------Check out the original DUST 514.(Yes Phone Camera it was a Fanfest Live demo with people there playing) Check out the Gallente FIghter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvDKbiUnxTA <------------ Check out prt 2 where they showed us what personal Warbarges look like... and explain the whole mechanic around it... and all the fluff like Trophy rooms. (Rattati is ambitious enough to have this on the road map) This was 2009.... We are 2015 here around the world soon. Planetside 2 started development the same time that DUST 514 did. If only we could of taken DUST 514's content and big concepts and paired it with SOE development team. Are you insane? As someone who was there for the pre-Alpha builds of Planetside 2, SOE is the only company I know of that's worse than CCP. Every new content release made the game even shittier for months on end. It's only now that it's even enjoyable to play again, and that's only after they finally adopted systems from the first one that they should have had at launch. Not to mention how we made thread after thread telling them exactly that and now the game has had almost a half-dozen server merges to try and compensate for all the players they've been hemorrhaging this whole time. CCP might have ****** up big time, but please don't try and imply that having this game developed by SOE would be an improvement. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1103	Posted - 2015.01.02 17:08:00 - [30] - Quote Better qlty, low brighness... Please support fair play!

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