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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 14:13:00 -
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Ghost, why did you bump another Clone D thread? This is exactly what he wants.
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Sky-Fire and a soon to be unnamed Bounty fulfilling corp are payed 50k per kill they get on you in a match :P 100k if your on the same team and they manage to kill you anyways Ha!  Brilliant.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:07:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Concomitantly, you will also be rewarded with vast sums of ISK. There is a lot wrong with this point, but I'm going to highlight this sentence in particular.
ITT Clone D explains how to help your team lose.
When someone dies or gets their vehicle destroyed in a match the ISK value of that gear is deposited into a pool. The winning team earns 60% of that pool while the losing team earns 40%. Those rewards are then divided up based on WP's earned; the top WP earner on the winning team being the highest paid and the lowest WP earner on the losing team being the least paid.
It is in your best interests to not only earn the maximum possible WPs for yourself, but also help your team earn a victory. You should be endeavoring to complete both of these goals.
Things like...
Clone D wrote:- Deliberately let enemies kill your team mates. Your team member will be spending time out waiting to respawn while you are busy earning war points.
- Never call for help. Alway deny a revive. Lead to defeat. I'm not sure if you are aware, but being defeated is bad.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:44:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:When actually fighting attempting to win you are never going to make a profit. And yet my wallet grows daily. Run advanced or standard/advanced fittings, with a squad, fight to win. Super simple stuff.
deezy dabest wrote:Also, thanks to MU losing several matches through AFK or ****** tactics is the best thing you can do for your self if you run solo. You will make a nice profit and then be handed a couple of E Z Mode wins by Scotty and his terrible matchmaking. These matches can be used to pad your stats as well as your wallet. Unless you are a character less than a month old, your MU is not going to be adjusted very much from a handful of losses.
Also, AFKing too often will get you reported and an involuntary vacation from Dust.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:09:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:The exact problem with using W/L in MU is it WILL throw you from side to side after just a handful of matches. The better matchmaking works the more tightly people become grouped in the middle. This grouping, which has pretty much already taken place leads to fractions of a percent making a difference. I'm going to disagree with you on this, but since we can't view our respective MU scores (or the MU scores of our blue and redberries) neither of us can prove our points.
I still maintain that MU scores don't fluctuate that often in seasoned characters. 1 - 2 months old, maybe, but not someone who has been playing since Uprising 1.0.
deezy dabest wrote:An involuntary vacation would come from breaching the EULA. Sitting in the redline and moving your controller every couple of minutes does not constitute a breach. Using a turbo controller to speed squat to avoid being kicked WOULD be a breach of the EULA. In theory rubber banding your controller would also be a breach but a more difficult one to prove. Going to need a red or blue tag citation here. A player randomly twitching around in the MCC instead of participating in the match is AFK'ing. If a GM wants to clear this up for us that would be much appreciated.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 16:41:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Oh and on the wallet thing of course there are outside factors which make that untrue but in general people are not able to make a profit in this environment without using crude tactics at some point. You likely have good gun game and awareness meaning you die little, I spam BPOs or pull out a proto suit that will not die. Not everyone has these advantages. I love the ****** payouts it just lets me laugh about my wallet even more.
I run fittings between 36k - 40k ISK per. If I earn a victory I make 250k - 300k ISK. After corp taxes that comes to 242.5k - 291k ISK. Assuming I die 5 times, I lose 180k - 200k ISK to restocking.
Net ISK gain: 62.5k - 91k per victory
I do own the APEX BPOs from the war profiteer pack. I very rarely use the Gallente sentinel, but I do run the Minmatar assault on occasion. I am also known to run my trusty Amarr starter fittings. I'm not counting these deaths since they do not have an ISK cost associated with them.
Now let's examine the loss scenario...
I earn 160k - 200k per loss.
Same fitting cost, same corp taxes, same number of deaths*, same amount lost to restocking.
Net ISK gain: (24.8k) - (8k) per loss
What have we learned?
Winning makes ISK.
Losing costs ISK.
Losing ISK can be partially prevented/reduced by running cheaper fittings, but this also decreases your chance at earning a victory.
*: It is likely the number of deaths during a loss will be higher in a real-world scenario.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.31 17:05:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Aside: Have you tried the original 'Nomad' Assault (not vX.1)? It is loads of fun  It is a nice dropsuit, but I am not a huge fan of the plain CR, the ACR is much more my style. The RE's are nice though.
Clone D wrote:Not so. It is different for everyone. I ensure that if my team is going to lose, then I will still profit from the match. And I profit a lot from all matches. There is a variable that throws a wrench in my formulas: the player that sees their team might lose so they switch to the cheapest fittings possible. When one player does this it is not a big deal. When an entire team decides, "Welp, we're losing now I guess." Then switches to militia fittings... it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. They lose because their fittings are vastly outclassed by the opposing team's fittings.
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