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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2654
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Posted - 2015.01.02 19:45:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:True Adamance wrote:Can agree with everything here except for the crews bit. We need that too, True. Tanks in this game are basically like giant Slayer suits. Their power should come from cooperation between at least two players.
Uh... no?
Slayers don't always use logis. Why should we have to be forced to use two people in a vehicle to use it effectively?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2654
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Posted - 2015.01.02 19:47:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Spkr, I'll address you once you actually read my post. When did I say anything about disadvantages for Pilot suits?
You're sounding like everybody else on here, treating me like a child and second class citizen. I read the post, and responded how I saw best. I never said you said anything about disadvantages with pilot suits, you mentioned Pokey's thread with the Google doc, and in it, he put disadvantages while using the pilot suit. That is literally the worst idea I've ever seen for vehicles in any game with vehicles I've played. That means that a) nobody will skill into the pilot suit, and b) nobody will skill into the pilot suit. I hate to say it Spkr, but stop acting like a child and people will stop treating you like one.
I'm not the one that acts like a child. I don't yell out "it shot me nerf it" on here like infantry does for months straight when it comes to vehicles. I can destroy anybody in the game, yet they all have trouble with terrible fit tanks with terrible pilots. It's not "damn, this guy here is so difficult to take out, it makes me angry."
If they're having trouble using PRO AV against academy grads in Somas and Sicas, then the problem isn't with the vehicle.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2351
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:46:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Animations I hear frisbee REs are cheap and they've been progressively softened from what they used to be. Personally, I saw their use in clearing rooms of Heavy/Logis as sandbox too. Seat Timers 1: Is this Eve or Dust? 2: Git Gud @ timing, I'm still getting the hang of it but I'm getting better at being the paratrooping MinSent. It'd be much easier if we got a better perspective though. 3: Why'd you suggest it then? Crew Service/Damage Zones/Pilot Suit/Skills Your answers to all of these make me think that you're just afraid of change and you want nothing more than to death grip the status quo as you're obviously unwilling to actually discuss any improvements to it. Locking I'm fine with that so long as the "I make this machine move around the battlefield" seat is occupied. I hope your New Year went well English. ANIMATIONS 1. RE were never made to be thrown like frisbees SEAT TIMERS 1. New Eden 2. No actual response to an actual point, if i would say git gud to AV they would cry and complain that im not discussing the point at hand like you are doing now 3. Im not the one who wants a 2second dely for doing basic things Crew Service/Damage Zones/Pilot Suit/Skills 1. All your requests are not thought out and you now seem incapable of even discussion of the ideas and various holes that i have put in them - You need to have an answer for some of these legitimate problems i have found and cannot hide behind 'opinion' and other BS reasons 2. I can tell that you do not use vehicles or even play PC - For one to suggest such a large list of requests it would be ideal if you have played all the game has to offer so you can understand how it would effect various areas of the game overall 3. I will end my discussion now - The answers i have recieved are a mixed bag of yes i agree, no and i dont want to discuss this anymore because they are my ideas and you cannot change them and lets ignore the big gaping holes that i cannot answer because i dont use vehicles 4. Happy new year paranoid chinaman
The "holes you've put into my ideas" are all based on things not changing at all. If things aren't changing then how or why would my ideas need to even be put into context of the status quo since nothing would be changing and that is exactly what my ideas would be-- change? You fail to examine them without filtering them through your own little "mustn't change the status quo" POV.
I do use vehicles, I use my BPO Methana to cruise around the battlefield hopping out occasionally to mow the clones with my HMG.
Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks)
^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2351
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:47:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The thing needed to make crews beneficial is...
Higher player counts in battle.
You can literally have five tanks with three man crews in play and one lonely blueberry.
We don't have enough player count to mandate crews instead of providing bonuses for HAVING a crew.
Good idea, I know that you and I don't see eye to eye on this matter, though you've brought a legitimately good and valid point, there should be an incentive to run a crew until we've got player counts that would truly support a mandate.
Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks)
^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2351
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:52:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Spkr, I'll address you once you actually read my post. When did I say anything about disadvantages for Pilot suits?
You're sounding like everybody else on here, treating me like a child and second class citizen. I read the post, and responded how I saw best. I never said you said anything about disadvantages with pilot suits, you mentioned Pokey's thread with the Google doc, and in it, he put disadvantages while using the pilot suit. That is literally the worst idea I've ever seen for vehicles in any game with vehicles I've played. That means that a) nobody will skill into the pilot suit, and b) nobody will skill into the pilot suit. I hate to say it Spkr, but stop acting like a child and people will stop treating you like one. I'm not the one that acts like a child. I don't yell out "it shot me nerf it" on here like infantry does for months straight when it comes to vehicles. I can destroy anybody in the game, yet they all have trouble with terrible fit tanks with terrible pilots. It's not "damn, this guy here is so difficult to take out, it makes me angry." If they're having trouble using PRO AV against academy grads in Somas and Sicas, then the problem isn't with the vehicle.
Problem is, they're not going against Academy grads with PRO AV and failing. They're going against cowards who've been playing the game for months (if not years at this point) who are simply using the HAV as a Slayer suit exoskeleton for their Starter Fit.
Academy grads are so unskilled with vehicles that they are a non-issue (except possibly those who know what they are doing and are tanking on a smurf account).
Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks)
^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
140
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:12:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Spkr, I'll address you once you actually read my post. When did I say anything about disadvantages for Pilot suits?
You're sounding like everybody else on here, treating me like a child and second class citizen. I read the post, and responded how I saw best. I never said you said anything about disadvantages with pilot suits, you mentioned Pokey's thread with the Google doc, and in it, he put disadvantages while using the pilot suit. That is literally the worst idea I've ever seen for vehicles in any game with vehicles I've played. That means that a) nobody will skill into the pilot suit, and b) nobody will skill into the pilot suit. I hate to say it Spkr, but stop acting like a child and people will stop treating you like one. I'm not the one that acts like a child. I don't yell out "it shot me nerf it" on here like infantry does for months straight when it comes to vehicles. I can destroy anybody in the game, yet they all have trouble with terrible fit tanks with terrible pilots. It's not "damn, this guy here is so difficult to take out, it makes me angry." If they're having trouble using PRO AV against academy grads in Somas and Sicas, then the problem isn't with the vehicle. Problem is, they're not going against Academy grads with PRO AV and failing. They're going against cowards who've been playing the game for months (if not years at this point) who are simply using the HAV as a Slayer suit exoskeleton for their Starter Fit. Academy grads are so unskilled with vehicles that they are a non-issue (except possibly those who know what they are doing and are tanking on a smurf account).
Not all Tank Operators accused of using Tanks as Slayer suits are trying to use them as such...the primary purposes I use HAVs for are Anti-Vehicle, Battle-Bus, Mobile Wall, Suppression, and as a Distraction Carnifex. Sometimes when I'm working on the suppression roll though, people don't get the concept of not running directly at the tank through its line of fire (I don't know why) and this allows me (and my small gunners) to rack up an impressive K/D (not to mention the WP). There have also been times where proto AVers decide to charge me head on. I know when I run my footsloggin AV suits I stay out of site until there is no way my prey will escape (unless that prey is a maddy, no reason to hide from most maddy's)
My point is (anecdotal or not) the only times I've gotten any sort of "Fan Mail" for my tanking against footsloggers is when I've been shooting at pretty much the same place for the better part of a minute, and people still try to charge out through there...
Also, there is nothing wrong with using a starter fit to operate a vehicle...(just as there's nothing wrong with putting a Wiyrkomi Swarm launcher on a Starter AV suit...or any BPO suit for that matter)
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
2760
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Posted - 2015.01.31 04:16:00 -
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caps and the crew thing is silly
Caps- It doesn't create balance on its own (in fact, that's more balance work), and it makes it to where Pilots has to put much more focus on module usage, which we just don't have. Making them more cloak like where you can control the timer more would be better.
crew- Forcing teamwork never work.
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4674
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Posted - 2015.01.31 08:08:00 -
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Nice post, had I found it at a time other than 1AM I'd give it a proper response. But I'm about to pass out so I'll give a more in depth response tomorrow.
One quick thing I will point out is that sadly Ratatti has already said he has no intention of implementing capacitors in the short or medium term. 
Also you can pretty much ignore 100% of what Spkr says and 95% of what Laser says (every once in a while he gets a few words in that have some merit). Responding to them just encourages their continued negativity.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2456
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Posted - 2015.01.31 14:47:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Nice post, had I found it at a time other than 1AM I'd give it a proper response. But I'm about to pass out so I'll give a more in depth response tomorrow. One quick thing I will point out is that sadly Ratatti has already said he has no intention of implementing capacitors in the short or medium term. Also you can pretty much ignore 100% of what Spkr says and 95% of what Laser says (every once in a while he gets a few words in that have some merit). Responding to them just encourages their continued negativity.
Yeah, I figured that out a little while ago.
I had almost forgotten about this thread.
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2459
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Posted - 2015.02.02 22:53:00 -
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While I was driving around today, I had another thought that I'd like to add here. It is probably pie in the sky (since AFAIK it would require new models) but I think it is a good idea and wanted to make sure that it was logged somewhere.
Configurable Turret Mounts
DS and HAVs should each have 6-8 Turret slots. These wouldn't be added slots for fitting turrets, they would be slots for positioning of the fitted turrets. The vehicles would still be restricted to 2 Small Turrets though would be able to select the positioning of the small turrets within the available spots. This would greatly expand customization options for vehicles
We the pc players make up a huge majority of active players. --Roman837
^^ROFLMAO
OMG I need to catch my breath now..
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