The HMG by its very nature deals a lot of damage, and with proficiency it has much higher DPS than a ScR user can ever hope to consistently deal. And that's a full auto weapon, so you are getting full DPS at all times.

TL;DR: While the Scrambler Rifle can deal more DPS to shields than a Combat Rifle can to armor, it is much more likely that the CR deals more anyway.

I've seen you whining about how much damage a Triple Damage modded Prof. 5 Viziam can do to shields, which can be 1139.4 DPS. Keep in mind that that level of DPS is very difficult to achieve, and it would be more reasonable to expect 650-750 DPS instead. Which is still a lot, but that is to be expected from a weapon that is dealing 135% damage to shields.

But then you go on to complain about how there are no weapons that damage armor that fast. You say "if there were weapons that damage armor that fast, they would be nerfed immediatey", or something along that line.
When there are in fact 2 of them, and they damage armor even faster than that.

The HMG and the Combat Rifle, can both easily deal more than

The HMG by its very nature deals a lot of damage, and with proficiency it has much higher DPS than a ScR user can ever hope to consistently deal. And that's a full auto weapon, so you are getting full DPS at all times.

A Boundless Combat Rifle with 3 Damage Mods and Proficiency 5 can deal 945.4 DPS to armor. Again, it is very unlikely that you will deal that much DPS consistently, but it is much easier to deal close to that much with the CR than it is with the ScR. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to deal ~900 Consistent Armor DPS with such a weapon setup. That's a lot of DPS. But again, to be expected, and working as intended.

Disagree, scouts have killed me while I'm moving and before my RR can even shoot. I run 509 armor on my gal, that's 80% and still rapes people. It's all about the user. If you have some dumbass miss his charge then only land 2 hits after then he should skill something else. Point is the scr in someones somewhat decent hands can destroy all suits

TL;DR: While the Scrambler Rifle can deal more DPS to shields than a Combat Rifle can to armor, it is much more likely that the CR deals more anyway because RoF and burst vs semiauto.

I've seen you whining about how much damage a Triple Damage modded Prof. 5 Viziam can do to shields, which can be 1139.4 DPS. Keep in mind that that level of DPS is very difficult to achieve, and it would be more reasonable to expect 650-750 DPS instead. Which is still a lot, but that is to be expected from a weapon that is dealing 135% damage to shields.

But then you go on to complain about how there are no weapons that damage armor that fast. You say "if there were weapons that damage armor that fast, they would be nerfed immediatey", or something along that line.
When there are in fact 2 of them, and they damage armor even faster than that.

The HMG and the Combat Rifle, can both easily deal more than

The HMG by its very nature deals a lot of damage, and with proficiency it has much higher DPS than a ScR user can ever hope to consistently deal. And that's a full auto weapon, so you are getting full DPS at all times.

A Boundless Combat Rifle with 3 Damage Mods and Proficiency 5 can deal 945.4 DPS to armor. Again, it is very unlikely that you will deal that much DPS consistently, but it is much easier to deal close to that much with the CR than it is with the ScR. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to deal ~900 Consistent Armor DPS with such a weapon setup. That's a lot of DPS. But again, to be expected, and working as intended.

I would dare to say an ScR is scarier than a HMG at its optimal range for a shield tanker. Plus anytime I get killed by a ScR it shows up it dealt me 1100-1500 damage.

I would dare to say an ScR is scarier than a HMG at its optimal range for a shield tanker. Plus anytime I get killed by a ScR it shows up it dealt me 1100-1500 damage.

Anyways you suck, while dubbs doesn't, therefore your statements are invalid.

TL;DR: While the Scrambler Rifle can deal more DPS to shields than a Combat Rifle can to armor, it is much more likely that the CR deals more anyway because RoF and burst vs semiauto.

I've seen you whining about how much damage a Triple Damage modded Prof. 5 Viziam can do to shields, which can be 1139.4 DPS. Keep in mind that that level of DPS is very difficult to achieve, and it would be more reasonable to expect 650-750 DPS instead. Which is still a lot, but that is to be expected from a weapon that is dealing 135% damage to shields.

But then you go on to complain about how there are no weapons that damage armor that fast. You say "if there were weapons that damage armor that fast, they would be nerfed immediatey", or something along that line.
When there are in fact 2 of them, and they damage armor even faster than that.

The HMG and the Combat Rifle, can both easily deal more than

The HMG by its very nature deals a lot of damage, and with proficiency it has much higher DPS than a ScR user can ever hope to consistently deal. And that's a full auto weapon, so you are getting full DPS at all times.

A Boundless Combat Rifle with 3 Damage Mods and Proficiency 5 can deal 945.4 DPS to armor. Again, it is very unlikely that you will deal that much DPS consistently, but it is much easier to deal close to that much with the CR than it is with the ScR. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to deal ~900 Consistent Armor DPS with such a weapon setup. That's a lot of DPS. But again, to be expected, and working as intended.

YDubbs is a pretty respected member of the community that puts some thought into what he says. I wouldn't call him a whiner. I've known him for years - you I've never heard of. That said, I gave your post the due attention it deserved, which is to say I'm glad you posted this. I needed to wipe.

I would dare to say an ScR is scarier than a HMG at its optimal range for a shield tanker. Plus anytime I get killed by a ScR it shows up it dealt me 1100-1500 damage.

Anyways you suck, while dubbs doesn't, therefore your statements are invalid.

this and regarding CR, well if you have problems with it then fit shield extenders or just use a shield tanked suit instead of camping on a spot with an armor tanked suit...

it takes skill

No, it honestly doesn't.

It does, actually.

It does, actually.

Not when you have Aim Assist.

Says the swarm guy.

It does, actually.

It takes about as much skill as hitting a brick tanked amarr sentinel with an HMG at 15 meters.

I never said it won't. Im just pointing out the hipocricy of calling it OP and unfair when there are 2 similar weapons the do the same thing in the other direction.

It does, actually.

Wise words

There are far more weapons in the field that are anti-armor and that absolutely wreck armor and you don't see armor tankers complaining about it.

But god forbid thay the weapon specialozed for destroying shields is powerful against shields.

Ydubs is hypocrite and biass.

There are far more weapons in the field that are anti-armor and that absolutely wreck armor and you don't see armor tankers complaining about it.

But god forbid thay the weapon specialozed for destroying shields is powerful against shields.

Ydubs is hypocrite and biass.

Sure as heck beats roasting marshmallows and singing kumbaya on a tower with a FG.

They will feverishly defend their SCRs to no end.

No sh*t, we only have three things to kill stuff with.