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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:44:00 -
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Strafing frontlines and bunny hopping anti-armors. I guess learning how to to mash the jump button and take advantage of the full rotation of the analogue stick are the first steps to mastering the "deep and complex" mechanics of this game.
Its just sad. If US BACK CHROMOSOME!
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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DozersMouse XIII
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
895
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:54:00 -
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its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people?
play smarter not harder
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
51
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:00:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should.
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Cheydinhal Guard
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
324
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:05:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. It sounds like you're mad because you got outstrafed by a newer player. Git gud?
Be the mercenary of tomorrow, today. Go beyond with Aurum!
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:14:00 -
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Cheydinhal Guard wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. It sounds like you're mad because you got outstrafed by a newer player. Git gud? I find it annoying as hell to fight an excessive strafer. The last thing this game needs is more of them.
And yeah I was in a heavy with a laser rifle and this gal frontline strafe kills me with a SMG. Its not that i'm bad the laser isn't great at that range.
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:17:00 -
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I would not care about strafing if it was actually throwing player aim off that made it work. Currently strafing works because of poor hit detection, it is essentially glitching the game. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1235
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:19:00 -
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*places massdriver here, walks away*
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6634
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:21:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people?
ITs not because its done better. Its because its EASIER to do (and comes out better) with a Keyboard and mouse there by doing something i cannot do unless i invest money.
This is why i ''bend'' out of shape.
What is worst is that these people , ehem...actually think is skill....XD
Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6853
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:22:00 -
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Straffing and bunny hops have been a thing in FPS for many years now.
I don't know what makes you think Dust invented these things, and that Dust Noobs are also FPS Noobs.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
52
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Straffing and bunny hops have been a thing in FPS for many years now.
I don't know what makes you think Dust invented these things, and that Dust Noobs are also FPS Noobs. Yeah sure. But in dust its by far the most effective tactic. Do you ever see people actually crouching in this game as a tactic to reduce the chances of getting hit? Like in other games? No.
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
1236
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:40:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Straffing and bunny hops have been a thing in FPS for many years now.
I don't know what makes you think Dust invented these things, and that Dust Noobs are also FPS Noobs. Yeah sure. But in dust its by far the most effective tactic. Do you ever see people actually crouching in this game as a tactic to reduce the chances of getting hit? Like in other games? No. Yes, I have seen it.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1229
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:56:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:[quote=One Eyed King]Do you ever see people actually crouching in this game as a tactic to reduce the chances of getting hit? Like in other games? No.
Yes, but when someone crouches out in the open, it slows them down. I would think that it increases the change of them getting hit. I certainly kill crouchers easily due to their slowness.
Cover can be difficult to use in this game because of the slippery slidey action that occurs when you peek out to fire and then jump back behind cover.
People will organically learn to use the most effective technique, which in many circumstances, due to the lack of proper cover, or the difficulty of using cover well, is to strafe and return fire.
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DozersMouse XIII
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
896
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:07:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. it requires no skill? obviously that's your problem
the thing is it DOES take skill and practice to out dance your opponent
play smarter not harder
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
52
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:25:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. it requires no skill? obviously that's your problem the thing is it DOES take skill and practice to out dance your opponent It. Requires. No. Skill.
How can you possibly argue that it requires skill?!
It's all all a question of using the right suit nothing more.
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2803
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:34:00 -
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Keeping your crossharis on an opponent while strafing takes more skill than it does to shoot them while standing still. How you could argue differently is beyond me, and it sounds to me like the OP lacks gun game.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1458
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:36:00 -
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Ahhhhh holy massdriver slay the scrubby strafers that are so hard to kill. This is why i for mas driver to proto to unlock Boundless mass driver
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
2343
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Posted - 2014.12.30 18:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Straffing and bunny hops have been a thing in FPS for many years now.
I don't know what makes you think Dust invented these things, and that Dust Noobs are also FPS Noobs.
I strafe and bunnyhop in TF2 as scout & Sly you should see the chat .
Plus i do it with no mouse, just KB/MPAD on my laptop.
But yeah its nothing new, why its hated so bad i have no idea.
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Suits- Gk.0/Mk.0 'Sever' scout Weapons- SG, NK, SmG, ScP, CR, SR, ARR, REs
Specialty- Nice Lone Wolf
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Khulmach
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:02:00 -
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Some learn fast... And some learn nothing at all.
Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally While The Light Taughts,Mocks,and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2014.12.30 19:55:00 -
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Everyone in the game can strafe. Every suit can strafe. If a tactic is available to everyone then no one has an advantage, and I'm not convinced on the kb/m argument.
Strafing is a valid FPS tactic. I strafe in a scout suit, assault suit, hell, I even strafe when I use my scrubby "Warlord" sentinel. I do it without even thinking.
How would you effectively remove it? In DUST, we can't really peak around corners. Strafing is an essential part of survival.
Stay gold, strafers.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1990
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:06:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:Cheydinhal Guard wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. It sounds like you're mad because you got outstrafed by a newer player. Git gud? I find it annoying as hell to fight an excessive strafer. The last thing this game needs is more of them. And yeah I was in a heavy with a laser rifle and this gal frontline strafe kills me with a SMG. Its not that i'm bad the laser isn't great at that range. What the fck are you complaining about strafing for? That frontline suit could have killed you without moving. Seriously you're the idiot that either didn't have a sidearm or didn't switch to it so don't blame strafing for why the LR lost to the SMG at close range.
[RYJC]
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2809
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:17:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:Cheydinhal Guard wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. It sounds like you're mad because you got outstrafed by a newer player. Git gud? I find it annoying as hell to fight an excessive strafer. The last thing this game needs is more of them. And yeah I was in a heavy with a laser rifle and this gal frontline strafe kills me with a SMG. Its not that i'm bad the laser isn't great at that range. What the fck are you complaining about strafing for? That frontline suit could have killed you without moving. Seriously you're the idiot that either didn't have a sidearm or didn't switch to it so don't blame strafing for why the LR lost to the SMG at close range.
Bad suit is bad. Noob doesn't realize it?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5280
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:38:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. Hahahaha! |
Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
54
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:41:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:Cheydinhal Guard wrote:Toobar Zoobar wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people? It requires no skill and makes the game feel like a dated PS2 game. It allows low HP fits to survive longer than they realistically should. It sounds like you're mad because you got outstrafed by a newer player. Git gud? I find it annoying as hell to fight an excessive strafer. The last thing this game needs is more of them. And yeah I was in a heavy with a laser rifle and this gal frontline strafe kills me with a SMG. Its not that i'm bad the laser isn't great at that range. What the fck are you complaining about strafing for? That frontline suit could have killed you without moving. Seriously you're the idiot that either didn't have a sidearm or didn't switch to it so don't blame strafing for why the LR lost to the SMG at close range. I USED MY SIDE ARM! MAGSEC! I had 500 armor 30 rep/s
My point is, is that I'm seeing a lot of the new players strafing and bunny hopping. No need to get so f***ing fixated with the technicalities and blow this all out of proportion. ******* hell!
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:44:00 -
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The old git gud gang is back. Just lame and sad. Anyways here ar emy 3 pennies Using a militia suit doesnt make one a noob, it could be that they are vets who dont have BPOs or just want to use militia. Also I dont think jumping and shooting is the "strafing" people are really complaining about. Making a figure 8 or infinity and shooting with pinpoint accuracy is the real problem
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Jesus Loves You
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Edau Skir2
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
235
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Posted - 2014.12.30 20:49:00 -
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The thing is in this game, EVERYONE strafes in cqc. It's whether you've learnt to anticipate their movements and how fast your reactions are that matters. If you spray and pray, you'll lose. All fps' are this way.
If you remove strafing, you end up turning this game into an HD fps version of a win95 rpg. "Compass point" moving would not suit this game.
Resident pasty smasher
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1992
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Posted - 2014.12.30 21:02:00 -
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Oh so now you're changing your story.
Your point has nothing to do with new players strafing and everything to do with you thinking that strafing is why you're getting beat. It's quite obvious by what you've said throughout this thread.
[RYJC]
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
3143
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Posted - 2014.12.30 21:04:00 -
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Thats right, lets make combat like EVE and just designate a target and not have to actually aim or fight |
Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
54
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Posted - 2014.12.30 21:25:00 -
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Who am I kidding. The community left in this game like the game the way it is.
All the people who were fond of the interesting vehicles and realistic no BS none strafing movement mechanics have all left to go play quality games.
The strafing mechanics make the game feel dated and cheap. You idiots don't realize that? Thats too bad. As people have said before "the player base is killing the game" and that so true.
And please do look at my ranking on the weekly leaderboards before you pull that "git gud" crap will you?
Dust 514. A game about shooting people with super deadly sci-fi guns... and dancing.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1423
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:07:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:its funny how people get bent out of shape about "strafing"
just because other players do it better then them. wft people?
No, because it is a silly mechanic for a shooter. While I understand the necessity for and the differences of real life and a game, it is just stupid to be able to dance to avoid bullets.
Because, that's why.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1450
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:23:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Ahhhhh holy massdriver slay the scrubby strafers that are so hard to kill. This is why i for mas driver to proto to unlock Boundless mass driver
ugh that damn PG/CPU cost tho...a totally uneccesary con to a weapon that's been nerfed into mediocrity
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AFKing since 2012
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