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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5765	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:17:00 - [1] - Quote Clone D wrote: Logi is a simpleton's role I know someone who won't be getting repped or resupplied anytime soon. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5767	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:22:00 - [2] - Quote Clone D wrote: The formula is: Put hives down. Latch on. Pick up. It's funny that you attribute this amazing tactical prowess to slayer roles, but attempt to simplify the logi role down to this nonsense. Watch me do the same to slayers. Shoot, +50 WP, reload, Shoot again, +50 WP, reload. I'm not a logi, I slay, but I need my logis. They make me perform my job better and increase my survivability. Logis, do ya real MVP. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5768	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:31:00 - [3] - Quote Clone D wrote: That is my point kill +50 needle +90 (almost twice as much, why?) Because by needling someone you are putting yourself at more risk? Because it saves the entire team a clone that would otherwise be lost. Also, you are using proto equipment to earn that 90 WP. The standard only nets you 30 WP. The proto brings someone back at what, 80% armor? That's a nearly full recovered soldier ready to fight that would otherwise be wasting time respawning and running back to the battlefield. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5768	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:37:00 - [4] - Quote Clone D wrote: I agree with this, but that doesn't mean to say that it is difficult or deserving of such high payouts. The logi role isn't altogether the most fun role to play. If logis didn't receive a bump in WPs we would have half as many of them running around and I'm not okay with that. Also, I disagree with the statement "isn't difficult". Maybe if you just drop uplinks around, actively avoid the fire fights, and occasionally top off a bluberries armor when you pass one, sure. But logis who are in the thick of the fight have to watch themselves. Their dropsuits are basically made of hamburger wrappers and hope. The fit decent equipment they have to sacrifice some eHP too. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5769	Posted - 2014.12.30 14:48:00 - [5] - Quote Clone D wrote: Build a cheaper suit. 'Valor' Logistics M-1 'Dren' Assault Rifle Nanohive KIN-012 Nanite Injector BDR-2 Repair Tool Militia Shield Extender Blueprint (x2) Militia Armor Plates Blueprint (x2) It will cost a little bit more without the BPO, but it is highly effective and cheap. I'm sure you could measure the diminishing returns of a proto suit over std/adv gear by performing a benefit/cost analysis. If you are going to post a fitting, post one without BPOs. Assume we are not willing to spend AUR. Also, make it in protofits so we know it would have the required CPU/PG. Also, two armor plates? You'll have eHP and move like a turtle on Valium. Logis are already slow to begin with. This fitting would get annihilated while attempting to rep anyone. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5772	Posted - 2014.12.30 15:07:00 - [6] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: because assault and scouts cannot split equipment among the team, right? Assault and scout equipment will not get the logi dropsuit command bonuses. You can tell when you stand on a Caldari logi V triage nanohive. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5772	Posted - 2014.12.30 15:10:00 - [7] - Quote axis alpha wrote: But logis are beggining to just be annoying as most of them compare how many wp they have and not kills or even wins.... They think just because they logi the entire game they THINK they helped... When in reality they could have done so much more. Every role on a team has a "saturation point". Take snipers, for example. 1 - 2 per team, maximum. Anymore than that and you are wasting slots for other roles. Logis are the same way. A team with 5+ logis is going to lose; they aren't increasing the effectiveness of the slayers enough because there simply aren't enough slayers. 3 logis is, in my opinion, the sweet spot. Two squads on a team, one logi per squad plus 1 blueberry logi dropping the occasional hive and needling idiot blueberries so the team doesn't get cloned. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5772	Posted - 2014.12.30 15:17:00 - [8] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: 1 logi per two heavies is the sweetspot assault can go lick themself and use nanos + self repairs I run armor reppers on my all of my assault dropsuits I just need the occasional hive for more ammo. And yeah 1 logi:2 sentinels is alright if you are into sentinel spam But you do you Jack, you do you. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5779	Posted - 2014.12.30 16:31:00 - [9] - Quote Clone D wrote: I just now participated in a match where I dropped proto uplinks and switched to a logi assault suit and protected an objective. Switching suits has not been stamped out. Switching suits wasn't the problem, homie, switching roles was. You changed from a logi to a logi. That's 100% acceptable. It's when people swapped from logi to HMG sentinel that we have issues. Clone D wrote: If I can easily rank #1 with those skills meager, yet I have to put much more effort into getting a decent WP payout from actually being a shooter in an FPS, then there appears to be a problem to me. I can come within 15% of my logi's WP total by being a slayer in many cases. Just fight within 50m of the objective and use some equipment on your assault suit... I may not take #1 on the EoM screen but I'll get 2 or 3 easy enough. I sometimes surpass the logi if I drop a warbarge strike in the right spots Also... Clone D wrote: logi assault suit All of my lawls. All of them. My sides, oh how they hurt. My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5787	Posted - 2014.12.30 17:14:00 - [10] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Do minjas hack faster? All scouts get a 5% bonus to hacking speed. Minmatar dropsuits get an additional 5% on top of that. Then the Minmatar Scout dropsuit command bonus adds an additional 5% per level. Minmatar scouts with proto codebreakers and skills at V are hacking insanity. My advice to you, playa...

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5807	Posted - 2014.12.30 19:31:00 - [11] - Quote Dubya Guy wrote: Now we all want to agree with Leadfoot10 because he sounds so much more accommodating in comparison to Clone D and does not insult anyone's role or skills. The goal of this thread wasn't thoughtful discourse, it was to troll My advice to you, playa...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5820	Posted - 2014.12.30 20:59:00 - [12] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Wait, Logi's have faster hacks? I thought all suits have same hacking speed in exception of the skill and MinScout All logis enjoy a 15% faster hack speed. Minmatar logis get a 20% boost. My advice to you, playa...

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